Afterward, those who stepped up to the altar were taken out back and "healed" by an anti-gay boot camp

Wow what a ridiculous waste of energy. That made me tired.

I like how the band always matches the speakers' crescendos: all designed to lure those unaccustomed to thinking critically. *lies indeed.

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I feel so horrible for those teens right now.

So, there's a homosexual devil too?

>> ^Duckman33:

So, there's a homosexual devil too?


Yup, one quick google search confirms it: http://www.scaredornot.com/recent-news4.php

ugh, this hurts.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesus! Are ya read ta enslave yer mind!? Jeeeeeeeesus!

I bet Homosexual Devil hangs out with Robot Devil. They must have awesome Robo-evil-homo parties!

i thought this was fake due to the top left title that says 'on-knees-for-jesus' look who's gay now:)

Wow that's horrible

Ugh... that is so disgusting... i feel just awful for them... really all of them even the 'pastor'. Nothing about this isn't sad...

Jesus christ. If you're willing to fuck with kids' heads like this, to drill into them that their sexuality is something sick and they must repent for it, you have lost all moral credibility, even if - ESPECIALLY if - you're doing it on behalf of some authority, imaginary or otherwise.

If you don't have the backbone to resist immoral concepts that your authority presents, you're a coward. If you accept all of your authority figure's concepts and moral judgements without coming to your own conclusions about what is right, you're infrahuman.

And if you haven't actually examined why you're doing what you're doing, but you're trying to effect change in people anyway, go fuck yourself. Witless, sadistic bastard.

I hope those kids end up okay. And that the pastor comes to his fucking senses.

From the youtube post:

"Scumbag Pastor: Uses Leviticus to denouce gays. Ignores same chapter about tattoos on his own body."

In case you were wondering:

Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Leviticus 19:28

Gives me the creeps watching stuff like this. Gives me the creeps talking to people about this kind of stuff because there's a point where they begin to get a little mad that you don't follow their thinking and they can't see the problem you're having with the contradictions.

puke

I was gonna make a joke about a homo demon, because that sounded awesome...

But I'm too heart broken. This shit is devastating.

Agreed,

Being GAY having tattoo, Cheating on the spouse, stealing etc is wrong. We all fail in the eyes of the LORD. All the more to believe in him then to deny his existence.

>> ^Ryjkyj:

From the youtube post:
"Scumbag Pastor: Uses Leviticus to denouce gays. Ignores same chapter about tattoos on his own body."
In case you were wondering:
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
Leviticus 19:28

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>> ^Bruti79:

I bet Homosexual Devil hangs out with Robot Devil. They must have awesome Robo-evil-homo parties!


That robot devil always seemed a bit fruity to me anyway. Way too into musicals.

Bachmann 2012

>> ^Bruti79:

I bet Homosexual Devil hangs out with Robot Devil. They must have awesome Robo-evil-homo parties!


yeah, until the super devil comes along and uses his evil marmalade

Wow. Just... wow. Imagine if he could get them this worked up about reducing poverty or ending armed conflict or even picking up local neighborhood litter?

Leviticus. what a great guy. But why don't god botherers heed ALL of his advice, not just the being gay bit.
Off the top of my head:
Where are the animal sacrifices that all God botherers must make to satisfy god
men shouldn't go to church when "unclean"
nor women during their period

men mustn't cut their beards or the sides of their hair

and my favourite:

Christmas trees are expressly forbidden inside a house (at christmas).

Still I'm sure the guy in this video adheres to all of those and would never insult god with, what is clearly a satanic object of a Fraser Fir at Christmas time.

Seriously. if you want to be a bible thumper, stop peddling this evil, nasty, hateful, self=loathing shit. Market church and god bothering for what it really can be good for:

Frienshdip, a sense of community, an identity, a code of conduct and ethics, a sense of purpose, a structure for life, or a path/code to follow for life.

stop peddling "everlasting life" (who the fuck wants to live forever - how boring would that be!), stop peddling sin and self-hate, and all that other shit.

People like this just make me sick and, if there was ever something good to come from religion, it's twats like this that hide it under their veil of control, deceit and passive hatred.

makes me want to immigrate, what a country of fucked up people

>> ^deathcow:

makes me want to immigrate, what a country of fucked up people


Really? This makes you want to move to america?

Why is Ted Nugent's brother a pastor?

>> ^kceaton1:

Why is Ted Nugent's brother a pastor?


No that's shinyblurry at his day job..

I would listen to the Homosexual Devil, but only for fashion advice.

>> ^quantumushroom:

I would listen to the Homosexual Devil, but only for fashion advice.


You wouldn't be into it, it's pretty much all leather and vinyl bondage gear. Stuff like horse masks and matching butt-plug tails. You know, the real kinky stuff. That and glitter everywhere, but all the glitter is really tiny shards of glass. Actually that might be exactly what you're into, what do I know?

It would be awesome if Dan Savage was in the audience and jumped up on stage and kicked this guys evil ass.

Sheep.flock.baa.

I skimmed through to avoid depression,... ending up going straight to the jams...

... kind of a 'Saul Williams' meets 'Explosions in the Sky' there at the end... not bad, when completely divorced from context

"freedom!freedom!freedom!freedom!..."

I feel sorry for you gay kids stuck in places that advocate things like what's happening in that video. I want you to know that I live in Atlanta, it's full of gay people, and nobody gives a shit what your orientation is here. I see gay couples in the grocery store, walking in the park, out eating dinner, and doing everything that straight couples do. Nothing is wrong with you. Save up your money and get the fuck out of town.

effing creepy

After attending Catholic High School...and that was amusing enough.
I am glad we did not have to suffer through hate or self-hate.

>> ^ryanbennitt:

>> ^deathcow:
makes me want to immigrate, what a country of fucked up people

Really? This makes you want to move to america?


That's a bit petty.

Leviticus. what a great guy. But why don't god botherers heed ALL of his advice, not just the being gay bit.


Leviticus is not the name of a person (nor are Genesis, Exodus, Deuteronomy or Numbers - though I think Deuteronomy would be a great name). One could make a good case for Christian hypocrisy in failing to observe a number of Old Testament commandments (while focusing on homosexuality), but it's much more complicated than your list would suggest (and in some cases the items you mention are a long stretch). There are, for example, very solid arguments to be made that animal sacrifice wasn't necessary after Christ.

In general, this kind of thing has been thought about by Christians for millenia.

For whatever you or I think about it, a reading of the Bible wherein homosexuality is a very grave sin is very natural (similarly, a natural reading of the Bible supports legal ownership of slaves). I'd love to agree with you and say something about how this guy isn't "really being Christian" or something - but the answer is not that easy.

The reality is that living your life doing your honest best to follow the Bible is going to, in many cases, end up with you doing stuff like this. Over time, it's going to get harder and harder to pretend that the Bible is in correspondence with (or the basis of) modern Western ethics and morality.

I haven't been to a religious establishment since I went with a friends family to a southern Baptist revival... this reminds me of it. When people started speaking in tongues I knew that I was in the land of the loonies.

"on knees for jesus" .... seriously?

I honestly can't watch this type of shit. Truly religious people give me the fucking creeps.

>> ^peggedbea:

"on knees for jesus" .... seriously?


I think his name is intended as a joke (IOW he isnt really a Jesus-freak, he's pretending to be one)

Theocratic fascism. Gotta love the 'ol U S of McJesus

Obviously I don't approve of this kind of bullshit, but it's not exactly true to say the pastor outed the kids. He encouraged those gay teens who were present to out themselves by coming forward to the stage. I was hoping one of them would march up to the stage with some pride, though that's too much to expect from such indoctrination, I suppose.

Whatever this is, it's not Christianity. This is a perverse display of unbalanced testimony and emotional manipulation. Worship is supposed to be sober and peaceful, as well as joyous and uplifting. This is none of those.

Calling a bunch of people out for a particular sin is just ridiculous. As if one sin is much different than the other. I bet there were a lot more adulters there than homosexuals. It's just not going to help anyone..if anything it is going to reinforce the idea that they are "different". Not only that but we are told to confess our sins before God and not men. This pastor has something wrong with him.

Spiritually, this service is polluted. I think though that should be clear to anyone. This doesn't represent Christianity at all, and it's unfortunate that anyone would think it does.

Something else to note..it's very interesting that the sift will upvote anything that makes Christianity look bad, even though most of you clearly hated this video. Yet, when something is posted with agrees with Christianity, the sift can't wait to get rid of it. Biased much?

>> ^cosmovitelli:
>> ^kceaton1:
Why is Ted Nugent's brother a pastor?

No that's shinyblurry at his day job..

And it's very interesting that when a video comes along that makes Christianity look bad, you say it's not real Christianity. "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy much?
>> ^shinyblurry:

it's very interesting that the sift will upvote anything that makes Christianity look bad, even though most of you clearly hated this video. Yet, when something is posted with agrees with Christianity, the sift can't wait to get rid of it. Biased much?

The fallacy is itself a fallacy, as it presupposes there is no objective basis for Chrisianity. There are minimum requirements for being a Christian, first of all, which completely negates it. You can tell if someone is a Christian or not by what they believe. However, just because they meet the requirements doesn't make them Christian..this is why Jesus said you can tell a tree by its fruits, and the fruit of this tree is rotten.

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:
And it's very interesting that when a video comes along that makes Christianity look bad, you say it's not real Christianity. "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy much?
>> ^shinyblurry:
it's very interesting that the sift will upvote anything that makes Christianity look bad, even though most of you clearly hated this video. Yet, when something is posted with agrees with Christianity, the sift can't wait to get rid of it. Biased much?

>> ^shinyblurry:

The fallacy is itself a fallacy, as it presupposes there is no objective basis for Chrisianity. There are minimum requirements for being a Christian, first of all, which completely negates it. You can tell if someone is a Christian or not by what they believe. However, just because they meet the requirements doesn't make them Christian..this is why Jesus said you can tell a tree by its fruits, and the fruit of this tree is rotten.
>> ^FlowersInHisHair:
An
d it's very interesting that when a video comes along that makes Christianity look bad, you say it's not real Christianity. "No true Scotsman" logical fallacy much?
>> ^shinyblurry:
it's very interesting that the sift will upvote anything that makes Christianity look bad, even though most of you clearly hated this video. Yet, when something is posted with agrees with Christianity, the sift can't wait to get rid of it. Biased much?



Well, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

yes, thats what i said, and these aren't ducks..more like snakes..and i'm little more qualified than you in this area..in this case im an ornithologist and you're some guy who saw daffy duck..this is a huge issue in the church right now..over half the church is roiled in complete apostacy..most forms of Christianity you see out there do not at all represent Christs life or message of redemption..there are over 35000 denominations when there isnt even supposed to be one..so christians themselves have to be extremely discerning..let alone the secular culture that doesnt know any better

Yeah, who do you think you are, FlowersInHisHair? Don't you know that every video relating to religion and/or athiesm is the exclusive property of shinyblurry?

Where have you been for the last couple of months?

i'm little more qualified than you in this area..in this case im an ornithologist and you're some guy who saw daffy duck..this is a huge issue in the church right now..over half the church is roiled in complete apostacy..


Well... yeah. It's cool that you've figured out true Christianity but you have to understand you're not the only one who thinks so (and you can't all be right). Do you think you know the Bible better than, say, an Eastern Orthodox priest? You don't. Oh God how you don't. I've seen nothing in your posts to demonstrate more than a passing, only-my-denomination-which-isn't-really-a-denomination-it's-just-the-truth understanding of the Bible or Christianity in general - whereas Dr. Priest has been studying his whole life, and not just the Bible but delicate moral arguments reflected upon for centuries by a unified body. And he's praying for God to bless all Orthodox Christians. He's specifically excluding you from his prayers because you're a nutcase apostate - just like you're allowing into definition only the Christians you want based on the criteria you got from your nutcase, exclusive, non-Christian (according to 80% of the world's other Christians) teachers/pastors/whatever.

Think you know your Bible better than a devout Jehovah's Witness? Again, you don't. Dude has been arguing with other Christians 4 hours a day his entire life. He's 100% confident that he's gonna live on Paradise Earth talking to pandas, eating watermelon, and not having to hear anything from you ever again. He believes something radically, radically different than you and he's using the same book (well, mostly the same anyways) to support his wacky-by-any-objective-measure belief. I don't think JWs have a natural reading of the Bible - but I don't think "mainstream American Christians" have one either, and to the extent they do it 100% isn't reflected in their behavior or politics. Jesus's politics were so far to the left of Democrats and Republicans, it doesn't even compute.

Guys in this video? They have just as much claim to Christianity as you. You think his fruits are rotten? Obviously he doesn't think so. He thinks he's saving souls from homosexuality. That's, like, super awesome mangosteen tasty-time fruit. Does he show "love, one to another"? He thinks so. He thinks he's showing ++extra love because he's willing to do the uncomfortable and be the only one to reach out to these kids and save them from everlasting sorrow. I think he has a really good shot at you, in fact: why don't you want to help these kids? If you believe homosexuality is an abomination (which you'd better), isn't it worth some discomfort now if it has any chance of turning them on the right path? Is it because you've been corrupted by modern liberal values? He's so sad that, like, 60% of modern Christians have left the true path and opened themselves to worldly influences/the devil.

Me? I think a true follower of Christ would welcome anyone to call themselves Christian if they believed in Christ and showed love one to another - and certainly wouldn't attempt to exclude other Christians based on their affiliations, ritual foibles, or doctrinal quibbles. From first Corinthians:

Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ. Is Christ divided?


Unfortunately, though, it doesn't work to build a normal religion on top of Christ's teachings, because his teachings prohibit all the ways a normal religion works: divisions, shame, sanctimony, self-righteousness, greed, hate-for-those-different. How can you really get a crowd going if you're just telling them to be nice, accepting, and peaceful without stoking their egos, inflating your authority as a preacher, claiming an exclusive connection with God and truth, suggesting doubt is of the devil, and simultaneously making the congregation feel unworthy because of their secret sins? So modern Christianity (in all its wacky rainbow) just have to make do and shoehorn Jesus into "religion" (the same psychological tricks that have been used throughout history to subjugate people).

But I don't know why I'm talking to you (and I suppose mostly I'm not). I don't have any expectation that you're discussing in good faith or that you're at all permeable to reason. I've seen your beliefs on science before, and they're clear, clear signs that you're not interested at all in considering anything that doesn't already fit with your beliefs.

In fact, just to be sure I don't have to hear your moronic rebuttal or something, I'll give you an easy excuse to not talk to me because I'm oh-so-mean-and-bad: I think you're a fantastic moron.

Looks like a *cult to me. These people are *terrible.

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shinyblurry is right this place is full of atheists. I think sb should run away and find a safe place for his/her warped religious ranting.

Go Away

Or stay and comment on kitty videos. There are no atheists in Kitty videos.



>> ^Boise_Lib:

shinyblurry is right this place is full of atheists. I think sb should run away and find a safe place for his/her warped religious ranting.
Go Away

>> ^bareboards2:

Or stay and comment on kitty videos. There are no atheists in Kitty videos.

>> ^Boise_Lib:
shinyblurry is right this place is full of atheists. I think sb should run away and find a safe place for his/her warped religious ranting.
Go Away



Well... technically... the kittens.

>> ^bareboards2:

Or stay and comment on kitty videos. There are no atheists in Kitty videos.

>> ^Boise_Lib:
shinyblurry is right this place is full of atheists. I think sb should run away and find a safe place for his/her warped religious ranting.
Go Away


I guess I have started to sound quite the jerk when it comes to sb's obsession.

No, I wouldn't like a place that capriciously banned people for unpopular thought.
And, I know that voicing my objections will not change sb's compulsion to proselytize.
So, I guess a little introspection is needed on my part.
Thanks bb2, and a good day to all.

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