shinyblurry says... Hey thanks man, I appreciate it. I'm enjoying the conversation and learning more about what you believe. I don't believe in getting mad over the internet. My motive isn't to prove I am right but to share what I believe and its up to you as to what you want to do with that. newtboy said: It's clear we disagree, but thanks for a decent discussion. I like to know why people think as they do, especially when I disagree with them on their conclusions, and I appreciate your ability to discuss it without getting mad that I'm not agreeing.