Thank god racism is over...right?

Fucking cowards in blue. Get a grip, asshats. 10 cops, 5+ cars, dogs, weapons drawn, aimed, and cocked...for what?!? Legal open carrying while black, which is just fine if you're white?

Every day I'm more surprised there isn't a racial uprising against police and reciprocation of this behavior, ending in numerous cops shot dead by 57 bullets in self defense because they had a pen and pad in their hand. If 'well trained' officers can make that mistake constantly, why not citizens? Maybe that's why they are so pant-pissingly terrified of a black man with a gun, they know it would be reasonable for it to be used against them in self defense?

If I were black, I would be dead or in jail today. No question.
Totally disappointed in cops every-single-time lately. This shit boils my blood.
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Well THAT was pretty much the response I expected given this was Oregon, which (apart from Portland and Ashland) is pretty much the Texas of the West Coast.

Pretty risky point to make.

Wow.... that is ridiculous.

There is literally one excuse for this: if by some random chance, someone exactly matching his description (and no, I don't mean "black", I mean corn rows, jeans, black tshirt) had just committed a serious crime with an ar-15.

Somehow, I doubt that's the case.

I would share the knee-jerk outrage right on cue if it was the same cop in both situations. How do you know the first cop wouldn't treat the black man the same way, by walking up and talking to him? How do you know the second cop wouldn't pull his gun on the white guy in the first scene? How do you know whether there wasn't a report of a robbery in the vicinity of the 2nd scene? The first video apparently was taken in Oregon, I can’t tell what county is displayed on the police cars in the 2nd video, much less what state they are in. So I must assume there are logistical reasons why the creators of this video would not have been in the position to insert the black man into the original scenario, for it to actually qualify as a “social experiment”. I know these comments wouldn't easily fit on a picket sign, so that must mean I'm for racism (he said sarcastically).

That was stupid. Guy could've been shot to death. That ain't worth making a point, no matter how right these guys are.

funny thing is, the white person is statistically like 99% more likely going to be shooting some place up than the black guy. terrible police work here. cue lantern trying to explain this one away...

I think the cops learned a valuable lesson with this video:

SMASH MORE CAMERAS!

My gut wants to say fake, because who is that stupid to try that? It seems like a good chance of getting shot and killed to make a point.

I could be totally wrong, and they are that stupid. =(

All I need are edited YouTube videos to tell me everything is racist. Shit, I don't even have to leave my house!

Well. There's not much editing and it's just the cops that are racist here. And indeed, YouTube is a great repository of evidence to that fact if you need some. Good call (not sarcastic).

No, as a valid social experiment, you would only have to repeat this often enough with enough different combinations to make sure you had not just caught the one racist cop in the US.

That being said, I just can't understand the US gun fetish.

Obviously not a scientific experiment by any means and a very life-threatening experiment, but to me primarily a very good demonstration of the fact that police officers may tend to be more scared of black people than white people.

He may have been suspected, stopped, and treated similarly even without the weapon.

I get really frustrated by videos like these that are very controversial but include zero follow-up. We can assume he was just let go there on the spot, but is that what happened? Dublyutief.

I wish they had treated the white guy the same as the black guy. Open carry in city limits should be probable cause.

yes, racism is terrible and american police is usually terrible as well, but I fucking hate these open-carry morons.

Also, the woman filming the black guy was pregnant and she willingly placed herself in this unbelievably stupid situation on purpose. I wonder if she was open carrying as well.

and I agree with ulysses1904, this proves nothing.

Erm, I'm a fucking Australian and even I remember...

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

Thomas Jefferson

And for all those people saying "He shouldn't have done that because it's not safe", you do comprehend that you're proving the case these guys are trying to make right? You're openly admitting that the black guy was in grave danger as soon as he walked out in the open with that gun hanging off him, just because he was black.

Not a single comment expressing concern for the safety of the white guy for doing the exact same thing because you all assume that he's a lot safer doing it, right? \= |

If the social experiment of actually taking the gun out and seeing how the cops react isn't legitimate enough, the reaction of posters confirms the results emphatically.

Yes @Asmo, the situation is shitty and everybody knows it. There is no reason to act as if there isn't a racial bias in US police forces. Not all cops are racist, of course, but when you talk about the police as an organisation, you have to go by everyones behaviour.
It is a sad fact, being white in the US means being safer. Especially from the police.
Another thing, you're not a patriot if you provoke the cops to shoot you for a YouTube video. You simply give your life to prove a point everybody already knows to be true. You're even less a martyr than a suicide bomber. And those guys are idiots.

Very brave man.

On what grounds?

Having been raised in a big city, I'm always astonished by the pedestrians, bikers, and drivers who wander by officers WITH THEIR GUNS PULLED AND AIMED AT SOMEONE---without thinking: perhaps this could be a bad place to be if it all goes sideways...

newtboy says he has nothing against 'those fucking cowards in blue'.

lol

Isn't this akin to anecdotal evidence? One video versus one video?

Here's a video of a black man, open carry, not even questioned:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDQp2WJELTw

I'll bet if newtboy saw a black man open carry in front of his house, he'd get on the phone to 911 faster than you can say 'hypocrisy'.

Also...you'll notice the black man in this video was not shot because he complied with the officer's orders. That by itself gives the video some value.

Does that go for officers as well, giving me probable cause to stop and interrogate them as to why they're such cowardly infants that they need to be holding a gun to feel 'safe'? Can I put my cocked gun to their head while I scream my questions? Can I empty my clip into them if they move? Somehow I doubt it.
Open carry is only probable cause in DC...unless that's changed now.
Federal law trumps local law, and federal law said any citizen can carry, even if the community doesn't like that.

EDIT: It makes me think of the normal procedure where a cop will say 'I'm going to take your weapon and put it over here away from you...FOR YOUR SAFETY.' I always wonder why the citizen doesn't reply..."OK, but first I'm going to take YOUR gun and put it over here away from YOUR grasp for YOUR safety...officer." You know...'What's good for the goose', and all.

You realize you are bringing a gun to a drone fight right?

It's also entirely possible the cops got a call about a "good ol' boy tea bagger trying to cause shit by standing up for his rights", and then later some scared granny calls in about "some goddamn Al Quesadilla terrorist wanting to shoot up the Walmart!!!"

Police response for each would be different, no matter what the colours were.


A good experiment would be for the white guy walking around with a fully capable AR15, then show a black guy walking the same area with a fully capable, CLEAR PLASTIC AirSoft rifle...

...betcha the same damn thing would happen.

Well, we can all dream, can't we

@newtboy This goes back you your recent sift .

"Are We All Bigots?-Through The Wormhole-Morgan Freeman"
http://videosift.com/video/Are-We-All-Bigots-Through-The-Wormhole-Morgan-Freeman

Which indicated that white people and black people fear black males.

Its not a racist issue but a PR issue. The media has done a grave injustice to the young black man.

Needs more black panthers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlw_Kp0By10

Extended video of second incident (Washoe County Sheriff in Sun Valley, Nevada)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU2RV0NgnZc

Let's play a game where we decide what New Zealand needs, next.

Oh look, the sarcasm went right over your tiny little head. How utterly unsurprising.

i'd like to see those statistics.

No, he was in grave danger because the police are institutionally racist and also have guns.

While 99% is obviously a bit high, I did a quick search and found some data. Out of 62 mass shootings between 1982 and 2012, mass being more than 4 victims per incident, 11 shooters were black. In the other cases, 45 shooters were white males, 1 was a white female, and the rest were asian or latino.

So 18 percent of the mass shootings during that period were done by blacks. A whopping 74 percent were white.

You can find the list here: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/12/mass-shootings-mother-jones-full-data

Very. I don't have the cajones to do it myself, but I have a lot of respect for those that risk their personal safety for our freedom.

I read that the second part was done in a state that doesnt allow open carry.
Anyone can confirm?

How did the police become institutionally racist? I'm really curious about that process...

It's a good question. I don't know the specific history of institutional racism in the US police. Perhaps you could look it up.

http://videosift.com/video/Black-Man-Vs-White-Man-Carrying-AR-15-Legally#comment-1872048
...damn. this comment is sooo unbelievably succinct, Lantern, it hurts..

Do you realize what this comment implies?

Did you forget to check that /Sarcasm box?

No?

Because I find it EXCEEDINGLY difficult to believe that YOU, @lantern53, genuinely ACTUALLY care to investigate the close ties between racism & Law Enforcement/"Criminal Justice"?

Ironic cause yer a cop. /s [see tongue in cheek.]

You don't care one bit about the suffering of "others" who you can't relate with.

You live inside a happy little bubble that protects you from dealing with "other people's problems"..

Get it?

You know good and well racism is ever-present.

You've even admitted more or less in your recent comments to me "racist isn't ending anytime soon, so get over it Genji"

You know exactly how police "became institutionally racist", Lantern.

You're a police officer, and yet you disparage black people & culture repeatedly & intentionally as in the manner/style that a racist or white supremacist, etc would.

You see the same events, unfairness, racism, abuse of authority, etc. etc. etc

You just choose to ignore that reality, because it doesn't match up with your little fox news bubble.

"I've got boot straps! Why don't you just use yours?!"
Lantern said to the Shoeless man..

Hence why you NeoCon-artists [see, it's like when you say Lib-tards. hokey, isn't it.] are ruining the country.

Genji you are a sad, delusional individual who is doomed to failure because you think you are surrounded by racists who stay up nights thinking of ways to keep you down.

It sounds like a mental disorder.

If I were a racist, why wouldn't I just come out and blame everything on your race?

Of course there is racism, but there is less racism now than at any time in US history. WE HAVE A BLACK PRESIDENT!

We have a whole nation of successful black people, hispanic people, asian people, jewish people.

Racism is your excuse.

But to get back on point, I don't believe that the cops are institutionally racist.

Baltimore, for example, has more black officers than white officers. Are all those black officers racist?

I stand with the black officers, not the antisocial thugs who destroyed that city, who destroyed private property, who targeted other minority businesses simply because they were not black..that's REAL racism.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/other-racial-divide_946670.html#

You ascribe a whole lot of false narratives to me simply because I am a cop...that is a kind of racism. That's is truly prejudicial.

You can't show me one comment from me where I denigrate anyone based on their race.

smh

Very telling me thinks
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html

That must be a reprint from The Onion.

Yep, that must be a tuff one to swallow. You keep fighting the good fight

A joke article from a joke website, HuffPo.

You should be ashamed of yourself for even posting it.