*frontpage!

Printing this post atop the VideoSift homepage - frontpage requested by lucky760.

Sounds like fun. I'll get the assless chaps out to make it official.

This is a great idea... and defiantly something I've wondered about before.

If someone self-promotes a video, that will give it away -- better turn off self-promotion, or else change Sifty's response to be identical to a non-self promote.

Related: how many times can we *doublepromote our own videos in order to win the contest?

If you see a cat fart video, you know it's probably someone else submitting it so go ahead and upvote it.

nevermind

This is going to be odd with people being able to boost, promote, or quality posts.

/edit Additional influence come from seeing who HAS voted for a video.

idea for a later date: videos dont display vote count for a weekend (EASTERN time obviously)

If you can still see who voted for the video FIRST, you know who submitted it.

^Agreed. Promotes and qualities should be disabled.

Also porn. That is all...

Forgot to mention that "Who Voted" will not be displayed.

@GDGD: Good point about *promote and *quality. Those and *save *beg will be disabled for all posts during the contest.

BUT I HAVE SO MANY POINTS!

.. *save? That's so 2006.
>> ^lucky760:

Forgot to mention that "Who Voted" will not be displayed.
@GDGD: Good point about promote and quality. Those and save will be disabled for all posts during the contest.

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This is going to be fun. I'm thinking it's going to make us all friends again when the big reveal happens at the end of the week.

It'll be like when Amy thought she was talking to the real Doctor, but the whole time it was the flesh one. You know what I'm talking about.

Stay tuned, for a very special VideoSift.

Great idea! Look forward to it

But how will people know that I sifted the video and upvote because they think I'm awesome?</sarcasm>

Such a great idea. This is going to be an interesting week.

I expect that in many cases we'll still know who's posted things... but I'd love to be proved wrong Bring it on!

What happens to beggar's canyon?>> ^geo321:

Such a great idea. This is going to be an interesting week.

I'd be interested to see if a complete unknown (in terms of Sift popularity) takes the top spot once name recognition is removed.

>> ^gwiz665:

.. save? That's so 2006.
>> ^lucky760:
Forgot to mention that "Who Voted" will not be displayed.
@GDGD: Good point about promote and quality. Those and save will be disabled for all posts during the contest.



Ha! Brain fart. My dementia is showing. I meant *beg.

(Though I'm glad some of you remember the olden times.)

What time zones for midnight? PDT?

I need to open a bug report. I'm having trouble voting up the videos of only the cool people.

I'll still be able to tell shinyblurry's!

Once it's done, can you publish the total number of votes made during this experiment and a number for a comparable time frame on a normal day?

It would be nice if we could still *promote and *quality videos submitted prior to the contest though.

@radx @lucky760
That would be pretty nice. Very good idea.

Ahhh, I can't even see my own videos, what has sifted, What to discard and so on....
I don't what's what. I thought we'd at least be able to see our own sifts...

>> ^Sagemind:

Ahhh, I can't even see my own videos, what has sifted, What to discard and so on....
I don't what's what. I thought we'd at least be able to see our own sifts...


Good point. Fixed this so you can see just your own listings.

Gee...


I wonder who's going to post the Zero Punctuation review this week.

Richard Bachman for president.

We should guess who we think posted which video. I found one I totally think was @gwiz665.

>> ^blankfist:

We should guess who we think posted which video.


Well it wouldn't be a stretch if you sifted something about Ron Paul. Findind an alternative must be very taxing for you.

>> ^campionidelmondo:

>> ^blankfist:
We should guess who we think posted which video.

Well it wouldn't be a stretch if you sifted something about Ron Paul. Findind an alternative must be very taxing for you.

I posted some boring videos of soccer plays to throw people from my scent.

Honestly, this isn't a half bad idea even when no contest is running. Everyone here seems to acknowledge that people are putting bias on the submitter of the video, so why not do something about it?

Obviously this exact method isn't perfect, but I know I am actually enjoying having no knowledge of where these videos are coming from.

I have to be honest and say that I really enjoy this contest so far. And also the bonus scavenger hunt: Finding all the ways it's still possible to see who submitted what video

I think it's kinda lame that we can't quality other people's videos. I just watched a pretty awesome video which was pretty much begging for a quality. I really hope it doesn't get lost in the shuffle now.

In other news: The RSS feeds still list the poster of every single video. (Both Sifted and Unsifted.)

I've really enjoyed this as well. It's been fantastic. In fact, I think we should make it permanent.

Maybe make queue videos all anonymous until they are sifted. That would be awesome.

In other news, I'm apparently a gigantic asshole. It's much easier to sift things when my video's are anonymous. I must have made some bad impressions on people in the last 3 years.

Why should username influence vote?

If I have 5 minutes to watch a video or two, and can choose between one posted by someone who usually posts interesting stuff, or J. Random Sifter, which one am I going to choose?

Or, even worse, given a third choice of someone who usually (but perhaps not this time!) posts things I don't enjoy?>> ^Truckchase:

Why should username influence vote?

They will keep until next week, surely?>> ^Sarzy:

I think it's kinda lame that we can't quality other people's videos. I just watched a pretty awesome video which was pretty much begging for a quality. I really hope it doesn't get lost in the shuffle now.

After title, username and thumbnail are next on the list when deciding which videos to watch. I want to see who's posting the videos.

[[redacted]]

Make the question then: is there a way to delete a comment that you can still edit? It won't let me save a blank message

>> ^oritteropo:

They will keep until next week, surely?>> ^Sarzy:
I think it's kinda lame that we can't quality other people's videos. I just watched a pretty awesome video which was pretty much begging for a quality. I really hope it doesn't get lost in the shuffle now.


Sure, but it'll be too late for the top 15 by then.

I, for one, don't particularly like this. As an experiment it's fine, but as a permanent thing, no thank you.

Looks like lucky found the "search by user" loophole and closed it...same with the RSS feeds. Two down, two to go...

Maybe we could do this 4 times/year or something, for just a weekend each time.

Oh. Maybe I'm just showing myself off as a newbie again - it wasn't obvious to me that it would matter.

I think the "no quality/promotes" part of the contest sucks, since it changes how the queue works, and only in a bad way.
>> ^Sarzy:

>> ^oritteropo:
They will keep until next week, surely?>> ^Sarzy:
I think it's kinda lame that we can't quality other people's videos. I just watched a pretty awesome video which was pretty much begging for a quality. I really hope it doesn't get lost in the shuffle now.


Sure, but it'll be too late for the top 15 by then.

It's basically a week long holiday for self linking and sock puppets.

Let's celebrate the community we have here by making ourselves anonymous for a week!

... roll on the end of this experiment.

Anonymity is fun! 8=========D

I am Anonymous. I am Legion. I do not forgive. I do not forget. Expect sifts.

So promote is disabled but I still get charged the points?

>> ^Hybrid:

I am Anonymous. I am Legion. I do not forgive. I do not forget. Expect sifts.


Come at us, bro.

>> ^oritteropo:
If I have 5 minutes to watch a video or two, and can choose between one posted by someone who usually posts interesting stuff, or J. Random Sifter, which one am I going to choose?
Or, even worse, given a third choice of someone who usually (but perhaps not this time!) posts things I don't enjoy?
I'd argue that's what the voting & channel systems are for.

I don't agree with the argument that people upvote a video based on the submitter's popularity, it's more to do with the trend of videos of the user that can be popular as far as I can tell. So not sure how apart from being something fun and different, this anonymity thing will change anything.

@KnivesOut, no "apparently" about it

The biggest squelch has been the hobbling of promote and quality. That can't end soon enough, as far as I am concerned.

As for only voting for your buddies....

I'll be honest -- I have sometimes upvoted things that I haven't particularly liked, either because I like the poster or there is a new star power level coming up.

BUT I hold myself up as evidence that this place isn't an insiders' club. I got lots of stuff sifted when nobody knew me, and quickly became bronze.

But the thing is -- I knew THE SIFT, having lurked for over four years. I knew what folks voted for, I knew what titles caught the eye. I know what "sells" -- put bewb in the title, anything with Homer Simpson, really smart science stuff. A good title goes a long way -- folks love cleverness here, and outrage, and passion.

What gets upvoted is the right product, marketed well. Great product with crappy title? Going nowhere. Crappy vid but a great title? It'll probably get sifted, but not much else.

This is what I have observed. Over five years.

One hour and 33 minutes to go!

>> ^DerHasisttot:

One hour and 33 minutes to go!


Curses! I missed all the fun!

/burdturgler braces himself as the asteroid named "*promote *quality" hurtles towards VideoSift.

honestly looking forward to this ending .. I can't even search for my own videos.

I gotta admit, I sifted two videos this week. (Third pending, but not very likely, and a fourth that I believe to have been incorrectly duped, but I digress.)

The two videos I posted were just for the sake of posting them, really.

But, I gotta say, I DID notice way back that when I went from just a member to a subscriber (Essentially, when my name turned blue) I noticed that my videos tended to get a lot more votes.

Then again, maybe I just started sifting better videos, who knows.

Well, I may be jumping the gun.

But I just doublepromoted a video, which took my star points and sifty said it was going to the frontpage, but it still hasn't made it there.

[Edit] Yep, been ten minutes now and the vid hasn't hit the frontpage.

if this could be looked into @dag or @lucky760, I don't care if I get my starpoints back or the vid just gets the promote it deserves, but one of those would be preferable.

Mini-poll: Upvote this if you liked the anonymous contest. Downvote if you didn't.

I can't self vote, but I'm a downvote.

Same here....sifty took my points...been over 10 minutes and nothing on the front page.>> ^Shepppard:

Well, I may be jumping the gun.
But I just doublepromoted a video, which took my star points and sifty said it was going to the frontpage, but it still hasn't made it there.
[Edit] Yep, been ten minutes now and the vid hasn't hit the frontpage.
if this could be looked into @dag or @lucky760, I don't care if I get my starpoints back or the vid just gets the promote it deserves, but one of those would be preferable.

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Bear with us while we unanonamyze everything - all points will be restored.

It was fun, I liked it. A good way to experiment without making any definite changes. I especially liked that voting was anonymous and that people don't have access to the voted up and voted down lists of people.

Actually, not an issue related to the contest. I modified the way promotes function to help speed up the site and there were a couple of issues with the implementation. Promotes fixed!