Capitalist Holiday Brings Out Best In Humanity

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siftbotsays...

Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Monday, November 29th, 2010 9:38am PST - promote requested by original submitter dystopianfuturetoday.

antsays...

>> ^KnivesOut:

Well yeah, that fat guy tried to stop, drop, and roll, and look where it got him.>> ^MonkeySpank:
Has none of these idiots ever been through a fire drill before?

And on TV!

This is why I avoid Black Fridays, the crowds, and even the outdoors!

Hive13says...

I absolutely hate people and I absolutely hate Christmas because of people like this. It is fucking disgusting.

I remember when I was a kid Christmas was actually fun, relaxing and exciting. Now we have christmas decorations out in stores in August, people getting trampled for a discount and people acting like selfish, hardheaded assholes. It completely ruins the holidays for me.

I bought televisions for my kids. I could have camped out at 2AM in front of Target, potentially gotten trampled and saved $14. Instead, I ordered them online, in my underwear, and it cost me $14 extra over Target's "super bad-ass trample worthy" price. Free shipping, too.

ToastyBuffoonsays...

You gotta be a special kind of dumb ass to lie down in front of a pushing crowd to potentially get a lawsuit. I'd think had the employees not acted fast you would have seen at least 2 deaths there.

It just sickens my stomach how people put on blinds like that and have no regard for their fellow human, all for the sake of saving $20 on what is most likely a closeout item.

What a smart management team would do is figure out which electronic items are the most desirable, make a voucher for each one in stock, then at least one hour BEFORE you open the doors, hand out those vouchers to people starting at the beginning of the line for those that want said item until all the vouchers are exhausted. Then, announce to the rest of the crowd that said items are sold out but you may enter the store if you still want to. That should cut down most of the potentially dangerous excitement.


>> ^Advocata_Nostra:

are we sure some of the folks weren't looking for "accident" so they can sue target?

rottenseedsays...

Yea of course Christmas was fun and relaxing when you were a kid...you were a KID! Everything is fun and relaxing. While you were kicking your feet up and playing tee-ball, your parents were busting their asses to get you whatever the tickle-me-elmo of that time was.>> ^Hive13:

I absolutely hate people and I absolutely hate Christmas because of people like this. It is fucking disgusting.
I remember when I was a kid Christmas was actually fun, relaxing and exciting. Now we have christmas decorations out in stores in August, people getting trampled for a discount and people acting like selfish, hardheaded assholes. It completely ruins the holidays for me.
I bought televisions for my kids. I could have camped out at 2AM in front of Target, potentially gotten trampled and saved $14. Instead, I ordered them online, in my underwear, and it cost me $14 extra over Target's "super bad-ass trample worthy" price. Free shipping, too.

quantumushroomsays...

I fail to see how this is 'capitalism's' fault.

What you're really lamenting is the breakdown of the civil society. That's that thing that says, "This value/trait/behavior is more desirable than selfish savagery."

Remember, 'you' voted to end the reign of the civil society when you agreed with the lying vermin that told you, "There are no moral absolutes. All values are equally valid."

Now 'you' don't have anything to bring out the best in humanity. There is no God and there are no angels, and therefore no "angels of our better nature".

Welcome to the world 'you' helped create.

BoneRemakesays...

>> ^Hive13:

I absolutely hate people and I absolutely hate Christmas because of people like this. It is fucking disgusting.
I remember when I was a kid Christmas was actually fun, relaxing and exciting. Now we have christmas decorations out in stores in August, people getting trampled for a discount and people acting like selfish, hardheaded assholes. It completely ruins the holidays for me.
I bought televisions for my kids. I could have camped out at 2AM in front of Target, potentially gotten trampled and saved $14. Instead, I ordered them online, in my underwear, and it cost me $14 extra over Target's "super bad-ass trample worthy" price. Free shipping, too.


*quality ? yes no ? its my first, im a virgin.

BoneRemakesays...

Shit.

well folks I didnt think it would work. I did it anyway.

the quality is for the comment, some how I thought special siftalk rules applied to regular sift through some sort of quantum thinger majiger.

Good night.

mgittlesays...

This video is a perfect metaphor for the recent financial crisis.

1. Everyone clamoring to the front
2. Shit goes crazy...everyone freaks out
3. People almost lose it lots of fear/screaming
4. Things calm down...immediate crisis averted
5. Everyone resumes business as usual, even though many of them realize what could've happened.

KnivesOutsays...

Oh, I see, this is Obama's fault, and the fault of everyone who voted for him.

Is this Bush's fault?

What about this?

Can we blame you for those incidents as well?>> ^quantumushroom:

I fail to see how this is 'capitalism's' fault.
What you're really lamenting is the breakdown of the civil society. That's that thing that says, "This value/trait/behavior is more desirable than selfish savagery."
Remember, 'you' voted to end the reign of the civil society when you agreed with the lying vermin that told you, "There are no moral absolutes. All values are equally valid."
Now 'you' don't have anything to bring out the best in humanity. There is no God and there are no angels, and therefore no "angels of our better nature".
Welcome to the world 'you' helped create.

Xaielaosays...

I always tell people I hate every day from November 1st through December 24th, but I enjoy Christmas. Of course now that our stores are getting Christmas stuff in September and the television is so flooded with commercials for cars and diamonds with slogans like "nobody ever asks for something smaller" IE nobody ever wants anything that doesn't cost you $15 grand, TV viewer ratings are down dramatically and will stay down until January 1st.

I love Christmas. I hate the bastardization and commercialization that lasts 3 months before the day actually hits.

ryanbennittsays...

>> ^ToastyBuffoon:

What a smart management team would do is figure out which electronic items are the most desirable, make a voucher for each one in stock, then at least one hour BEFORE you open the doors, hand out those vouchers to people starting at the beginning of the line for those that want said item until all the vouchers are exhausted. Then, announce to the rest of the crowd that said items are sold out but you may enter the store if you still want to. That should cut down most of the potentially dangerous excitement.

>> ^Advocata_Nostra:
are we sure some of the folks weren't looking for "accident" so they can sue target?



Smart management teams never turn customers away before they've entered the store. Customers inside a store looking for a sold out item might see something else they could buy instead.

Hive13says...

>> ^rottenseed:

Yea of course Christmas was fun and relaxing when you were a kid...you were a KID! Everything is fun and relaxing. While you were kicking your feet up and playing tee-ball, your parents were busting their asses to get you whatever the tickle-me-elmo of that time was.


HAHA good point, but I was talking more about my parent's experiences. My mom never waited outside a store all night to get nearly trampled to death for any Christmas present. She maybe had to drive a few miles out of the way to pick up a Cabbage Patch Doll for my little sister, and even that was a bit silly back then.

I blame the 80s.

gwiz665says...

There are no moral absolutes, but all values are certainly not equally valid.

God is the worst in humanity personified.

>> ^quantumushroom:

I fail to see how this is 'capitalism's' fault.
What you're really lamenting is the breakdown of the civil society. That's that thing that says, "This value/trait/behavior is more desirable than selfish savagery."
Remember, 'you' voted to end the reign of the civil society when you agreed with the lying vermin that told you, "There are no moral absolutes. All values are equally valid."
Now 'you' don't have anything to bring out the best in humanity. There is no God and there are no angels, and therefore no "angels of our better nature".
Welcome to the world 'you' helped create.

honkeytonk73says...

Yes. Thank God(tm) for the 'innernets' because without God(tm), online shopping wouldn't exist, and neither would we. I wonder why God(tm) didn't give Moses the 10 commandments on a USB drive or just a simple sheet of fucking paper instead of brittle stone tablets. Then Moses fucking wouldn't have broken it so easily when it threw them at the ground.

Oh. Don't boil a baby boat in it's mother's milk. God(tm) says that is bad and it just might warrant a stoning to death as punishment. Enjoy the holidays!

bobknight33says...

I agree with quantumushroom...I also fail to see how this is 'capitalism's' fault..

Capitalism is a great thing. It is the best economic model to use. ebay is a great example. who would say ebay is a bad thing?

quantumushroomsays...

As you sit there typing on a magical computer, surrounded by material goods, some fancy, some practical, some bought just for fun. Yeah, capitalism has a dark side, so what? It's still lifted more people out of poverty than any other system. Beats the hell out of food riots and forced labor camps.

I understand cynicism and hating people (crowds) and hating God or the idea of God. Everyone loves to complain, it's human. It's just unfortunate you or anyone would let these things mar your happiness to an extreme degree.


>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

One of many things you fail to see. >> ^quantumushroom:
I fail to see how this is 'capitalism's' fault.


kronosposeidonsays...

>> ^rottenseed:

Yea of course Christmas was fun and relaxing when you were a kid...you were a KID! Everything is fun and relaxing. While you were kicking your feet up and playing tee-ball, your parents were busting their asses to get you whatever the tickle-me-elmo of that time was.>> ^Hive13:
I absolutely hate people and I absolutely hate Christmas because of people like this. It is fucking disgusting.
I remember when I was a kid Christmas was actually fun, relaxing and exciting. Now we have christmas decorations out in stores in August, people getting trampled for a discount and people acting like selfish, hardheaded assholes. It completely ruins the holidays for me.
I bought televisions for my kids. I could have camped out at 2AM in front of Target, potentially gotten trampled and saved $14. Instead, I ordered them online, in my underwear, and it cost me $14 extra over Target's "super bad-ass trample worthy" price. Free shipping, too.


Black Friday has always been bad, but it steadily has gotten worse over the years. On Black Fridays in my childhood days, stores weren't opening up at 4:00 am and people weren't lined up half way around the mall to get in. There was no news footage of people being trampled because there were no people being trampled. Back when I was I kid, people only got trampled at The Who concerts.


I don't know why it's gotten worse, but it has. I could throw out some half-assed conjectures about people being more desperate to save money these days, or that modern marketing has become so sophisticated and manipulative that we are even bigger mindless consumerists than we ever have been, but I'm sure there's more to it than that. Maybe more perverts have realized that more crowding = more groping. Not that I would know.

thinker247says...

I was with you on the first two sentences. It's not capitalism that causes trampling of fellow humans for a deal on electronics. It's primal urge and a little too much enthusiasm.

But after that, you lost me (as usual.) How is morality brought into this? If we all went to church on Sunday and paid our taxes on time and tipped our hats to passing lady folk, would that prevent the actions of this video?

And by the way, we don't all believe that all values are equally valid. Murder would always be wrong to me, even if every blue-blood Democrat told me it was okay. I also try not to judge people before judging myself, but not because a deity told me this in a book. A good idea is a good idea, regardless of who started it.

I'd like to create a world in which everyone gets along, no matter what the voices in their head and in their literature tell them.

May Dog bless you this fine Kwanzaa season, QM.
>> ^quantumushroom:

I fail to see how this is 'capitalism's' fault.
What you're really lamenting is the breakdown of the civil society. That's that thing that says, "This value/trait/behavior is more desirable than selfish savagery."
Remember, 'you' voted to end the reign of the civil society when you agreed with the lying vermin that told you, "There are no moral absolutes. All values are equally valid."
Now 'you' don't have anything to bring out the best in humanity. There is no God and there are no angels, and therefore no "angels of our better nature".
Welcome to the world 'you' helped create.

peggedbeasays...

i'm so dead incredibly outrageously fucking broke this year that we're skipping the christmas present part of christmas. i've informed my family that their rich asses can suck it, i'm checking out of going broke buying trinkets for rich people and their children this year so that i can keep my heat on instead.

and i'm thoroughly enjoying the season so far. it's only about baking and making christmas crafts and listening to ella fitzgerald over and over and over with my kids. it's beautiful.

you should all just tell the present part of xmas to suck a dick and make paper snowflakes for 4 weeks instead.

rottenseedsays...

I agree. The only reason I attempt to shop for Christmas is because I know people are shopping for me. If there were an opt-out on Christmas presents I would definitely do that. Going to my parents' house to drink Irish coffees and eat turkey is good enough. It's what Jesus would've wanted...>> ^peggedbea:

i'm so dead incredibly outrageously fucking broke this year that we're skipping the christmas present part of christmas. i've informed my family that their rich asses can suck it, i'm checking out of going broke buying trinkets for rich people and their children this year so that i can keep my heat on instead.
and i'm thoroughly enjoying the season so far. it's only about baking and making christmas crafts and listening to ella fitzgerald over and over and over with my kids. it's beautiful.
you should all just tell the present part of xmas to suck a dick and make paper snowflakes for 4 weeks instead.

quantumushroomsays...

thinker247 wroted:

I was with you on the first two sentences. It's not capitalism that causes trampling of fellow humans for a deal on electronics. It's primal urge and a little too much enthusiasm.


It's a failure of self-control, which either wasn't taught well or even at all. But humans are first and foremost dangerous animals with a thin veneer of "reason". The stores can certainly share some of the blame by not being prepared, or caring.

How is morality brought into this?

Considerate people would not trample others for a damned stereo. We would be more forgiving if this was a video of people fighting over food or water, but not much.

If we all went to church on Sunday and paid our taxes on time and tipped our hats to passing lady folk, would that prevent the actions of this video?

To a certain extent, yes. The practicing of consideration would be more ingrained. But an anonymous mob?

And by the way, we don't all believe that all values are equally valid.

Yeah, I didn't mean that as a sweeping statement, even though it was a sweeping statement.

Murder would always be wrong to me, even if every blue-blood Democrat told me it was okay. I also try not to judge people before judging myself, but not because a deity told me this in a book. A good idea is a good idea, regardless of who started it.

Maybe you should look into Buddhism. Older than Christianity, and no deities.

I'd like to create a world in which everyone gets along, no matter what the voices in their head and in their literature tell them.

It won't happen, but it's a nice idea.

May Dog bless you this fine Kwanzaa season, QM.

Dog has been somewhat lacking of late, but I takes what I can gets. May Joyous Kwanzannukah befall you as well.

Ickstersays...

And every single person there thought every single other person was the problem. Hey you! Yes, you -- the one standing in a mob outside a store in the dark the morning after Thanksgiving to save a buck? YOU are the problem.

ctrlaltbleachsays...

Not discounts but a specific day and time that all the stores in America give them at the same time. I mean if they could stretch them out a little maybe there would not be such a crowd. Then what do I know about anything Id rather buy items online and have them shipped to me.
>> ^Psychologic:

>> ^ctrlaltbleach:
They should outlaw black Friday this event is clearly out of hand.

Outlaw what, discounts?

ctrlaltbleachsays...

Really? I just picture you chaps waiting in line patiently and when its all sold out an employee politely says "Oh I'm terribly sorry but our inventory has run out." And the person next in line says "Oh bother" and everyone slowly walks away with an occasional "after you madame no after you."
>> ^alien_concept:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/ctrlaltbleach" title="member since July 20th, 2008" class="profilelink">ctrlaltbleach
We don't have anything like Black Friday here, I expect it would take us a great many years to get to the point of being so impolite, but nevertheless we'd get there in the end

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