Airport Wants to See You Naked

Airport's 'Naked' Scanners.

WFT - This is about as bad as it gets. There is no way the airports should get to see everyone naked - Holy Blatant Invasion Of Privacy!!

BODY scanners which quite literally reveal all are to be introduced at Manchester (UK) Airport. Bosses admit the new high tech machines, which can see through clothing, leave 'little to the imagination' and will even detect prosthetic limbs and breast implants.
rottenseedsays...

um...i'd much rather prefer this than the hustle to take everything off then walk through the metal detector then put everything back on. I don't fucking care if they see me naked. It'd be the best part of their day.

demon_ixsays...

Either they feel you up or they watch your balls. Either way, I'm uncomfortable.
At least this way I don't have to be near the person violating my privacy, so I'd pick this one over the physical.

laurasays...

I hate to point out the obvious, but every single one of us humans have one thing in common: we all have naked bodies. Privacy? Pshaw. I would actually feel sorry for the operators of such a device at the airport...not every body is picture perfect, think about what they'd have to be analyzing all day...talk about ruining the magic...like being a gynecologist.

Crosswordssays...

She's excited!! I bet. And think how fun it'll be to try and find yourself on a HOT CANDID AIRPORT NUDE SCANS porn site. Look Ma' I got my picture on the internets!

I think the potential for abuse seems pretty high here, and I don't think comparing it to a gynecologist is fair. The guys that work the x-ray and inspection machines probably had to attend a 1 week seminar on how to operate the machinery and what to look for. I don't think that compares to the $100k or so of Getting an MD and the years of education/training/and ethical philosophy. Not to mention that the scanner and the scaned are basically anonymous to each other. If something happened you wouldn't know who did it, and they wouldn't know who you are so they'd be less caring about violating your privacy.

Sarzysays...

Have you ever actually gotten one of those thorough pat-downs at the airport? Ridiculously uncomfortable. If I can avoid that (and the whole slow-moving shoes/belt/keys lineup/hassle) I'll gladly show some airport employee a fuzzy picture of my wiener.

Paybacksays...

>> ^Sarzy:
If I can avoid that (and the whole slow-moving shoes/belt/keys lineup/hassle) I'll gladly show some airport employee a fuzzy picture of my wiener.


Oh please, like you would need THAT much incentive... with me, the difficult job would be to have me STOP showing fuzzy pictures of my wiener.

TheFreaksays...

OK, I don't know how old this video is but they've already dealt with this concern by modifying the visual image so it's too blurred to make out details. The new image just looks like a silhouette. Like standing behind an opaque screen except anything around your body is highlighted.

Funny that they showed this on television with that completely nude guy standing there and everyone acting like there was nothing to notice.

"Yerhar...that's not a bomb, those are just his bawls! Let him pass."

spoco2says...

No one here is going to ask about the possible health concerns? I'm sure this won't do much to you over a couple of goes, but what about regular travelers, what does it actually use? Surely not actual xrays?

laurasays...

>> ^Crosswords:
"...and I don't think comparing it to a gynecologist is fair. The guys that work the x-ray and inspection machines probably had to attend a 1 week seminar on how to operate the machinery and what to look for. I don't think that compares to the $100k or so of Getting an MD and the years of education/training/and ethical philosophy. Not to mention that the scanner and the scaned are basically anonymous to each other. If something happened you wouldn't know who did it, and they wouldn't know who you are so they'd be less caring about violating your privacy."


No...dude...I meant 'like' as in "when you've seen 'em all...mostly in their worst condition..."

cheesemoosays...

spoco, I'm guessing it uses terahertz radiation, which lies between the radio and infrared bands. The power levels involved are probably in the 1-10 watt range, and terahertz radiation isn't ionizing like X-rays, so I'd say the risk involved is probably rather low, even after multiple exposures. Rather on the level of talking on a cell phone or wearing a Bluetooth headset.

GeeSussFreeKsays...

Because I am sure that this stops all weapons getting on board more than existing methods. How much is to much for the delusion of total safety? Did anyone else watch that video where they talked about how most people related to the 9-11 hijackings were believed to get into the airport system through small regional airports where they don't have as strict security? This is all pretty pointless imo, weapons checking isn't useless mind you, but I think this goes past reasonable.

JiggaJonsonsays...

You can say all you want about the benefits and the downsides but here is the bottom line:



Do YOU want Arnold to crash through glass in your airport? I know I sure don't. I just want to sit around and bitch about slow boarding times while eating Cold Stone Creamery exotic ice cream.

NordlichReitersays...

>> ^Throbbin:
What's so bad about being seen naked? With the proper safeguards in place (men only see men, women only see women, etc.) - what's the problem?


Now I do not consent to an unlawful search. However the private Airline has the right to deny my flight privileges. Which is simply why I refuse to fly.

I will not consent to what I believe to be an unlawful search of my body.

Someone will find a way to subvert this mechanism, and then the security designers will find a way to patch it. So on and so forth. Its not so much a slippery slope argument as a futile effort to avert crisis. Which only adds to the stupidity of it all.

Now we get lead lined cod pieces.

Sagemindsays...

>> ^JiggaJonson:
You can say all you want about the benefits and the downsides but here is the bottom line:
Do YOU want Arnold to crash through glass in your airport? I know I sure don't. I just want to sit around and bitch about slow boarding times while eating Cold Stone Creamery exotic ice cream.


Funny, that's the exact clip I was thinking of while I watched this!

NetRunnersays...

The best part will be the outrage when it turns out that the machine stores the pictures, and that employees will pass them around and post them on the internet for fun.

Then later someone will release a study that it's a 1000 times more likely to give you cancer than a normal x-ray machine, at which point Republicans will introduce legislation that make them mandatory in every home, because the terrorists will win if people don't get electronically strip searched before they leave their house each morning.

radxsays...

About time such scanners are introduced. Terrorists trying to board the planes with explosives and ceramic blades, everywhere you look. Just yesterday, a group of 27 terrorists tried to hijack a Cessna by overpowering the pilots with their genital piercings. With this new technology, they wouldn't have gotten onto the airplane.

But how long until they finally invent a method to remove all bodily fluids and gases? It's completely unacceptable that you can still get aboard with a bowel filled with sarin gas.

Avokineoksays...

The thing is, they say the person seeing these scans won't know who you are, and only tell someone else to "pick this one out".

But who is going to monitor that? That's alweays the problem. Maybe the first year this will happen, but when they install this machine at your airport and everyone is used to it, who knows if they will still do it correctly?

robbersdog49says...

So what happens if a kid needs to be screened? Seriously, this shit stinks.

Just more security theatre. I'm with alizarin, bollocks to the lot of it. I don't think any of this is enough to stop a terrorist gang, so let's get back to reality and let people fly in peace.

I'm really starting to hate the world we live in at the moment.

Nithernsays...

If I understand it correctly, fundies of every religion (you know, the one's who hate all the rest of us?), hate this concept. It would mean, they have to be normal...like us. So, in the end, it cuts down on hostile religious nutcases hijacking a plane.

Yeah, my body isn't in the top 10 sexy...or 100...or even 100,00....

But at least I'm not fat!

deathcowsays...

> With the % of obese travelers in the US, I'd rather they didn't, gwiz

gwiz is from UK right? they're almost as fat. demon yer from isreal right? wouldn't there be chunks missing from everyone and shrapnel stuck in everyone there from your ongoing attempts to blow each other up? all americans are fat, and all isrealis are maniacal vigilante maniacs right

arghnesssays...

This video is quite recent, I think, as the story has been on the radio quite a bit recently. I imagine that the image is not blurred any more than shown here.

They say that as soon as someone is cleared, the image is automatically deleted.

The lady said that there was no more radiation involved here than eating 2 brazil nuts. I had never heard of radiation being measured in quantities of brazil nuts but Google does seem to accept this measurement.

She also said that she would be very happy to use this method instead of being patted down. So the question is: why did they show the fat guy being scanned instead of her?

Tymbrwulfsays...

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:
Why do videos like this get a "British" tag? If it were presented by an American woman it wouldn't get an "American" tag.


Because it's Manchester Airport, which is located inside the United Kingdom! That's where BRITISH people live! You know this because the United Kingdom is also known as Great Britain -> British people.

Get it?

jwraysays...

I downvote for the dumb title. It's an improvement over current unsanitary conditions where you have to take off your shoes and take everything out of your pockets and get a physical pat-down.

Sagemindsays...

I don't care if someone sees me naked when it's my choice but to be "forced" to show strangers is a degrading form of invasion of privacy. I absolutely hate when one set of people make rules for another set of people, especially when it becomes a violation of my personal rights. *Promote

FlowersInHisHairsays...

>> ^Tymbrwulf:
>> ^FlowersInHisHair:
Why do videos like this get a "British" tag? If it were presented by an American woman it wouldn't get an "American" tag.

Because it's Manchester Airport, which is located inside the United Kingdom! That's where BRITISH people live! You know this because the United Kingdom is also known as Great Britain -> British people.
Get it?


You miss my point (or are you being sarcastic?)
If this video were shot in JFK airport, it wouldn't have an 'American' tag.

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