-truly twisted, but kitty will most likely survive-
"Beatrice received exclusive attention from her mother as a child and as also was infused with her father's proper and direct appreciation for control and discipline."

Just goes to show you, they never look like you would expect.

If there had been no camera: "Those damn teenagers put the cat in the bin!"

Sorry, downvote on this one. I cannot in good conscience see this as a valuable addition to the sift. It is like glorifying that woman rather than trying to ignore her.

I know some will disagree and argue that the sift will help get the word out, but I respectfully disagree and think this video, while likely submitted with the best intentions, has no place on the sift.

So, can we get some tar, feathers and a huge garbage bin? What a bitch.

The things people do when no one is watching. Why do you think people are so scared of the internet and want to control it?

Why would Susan Boyle do that to a cat?

>> ^necrontyr:

Sorry, downvote on this one. I cannot in good conscience see this as a valuable addition to the sift. It is like glorifying that woman rather than trying to ignore her.
I know some will disagree and argue that the sift will help get the word out, but I respectfully disagree and think this video, while likely submitted with the best intentions, has no place on the sift.


I have to disagree. This is no way glorifies it and if anything will make it so that this person will likely get caught. There have been numerous cases where the internet community has been able to track down crazy people like this thanks to videos such as this one. If I remember correctly there was a case where some kid was boasting about abusing an animal and was later caught thanks to 4chan or something... I'll have to look it up.

Edit: yup... arrests were made. http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_political/2324917.html Don't eff with the Internets!

>> ^gwiz665:

So, can we get some A Lot of tar, feathers and a huge garbage bin? What a bitch.


fixed. >.>

Like I said, I knew others would disagree, and I am sure that the submitter had the best of intentions.

I just wanted to make sure I left a reason for downvoting, I do it very very rarely and I think people deserve to know why people downvote.

>> ^ponceleon:

>>
I have to disagree. This is no way glorifies it and if anything will make it so that this person will likely get caught. There have been numerous cases where the internet community has been able to track down crazy people like this thanks to videos such as this one. If I remember correctly there was a case where some kid was boasting about abusing an animal and was later caught thanks to 4chan or something... I'll have to look it up.
Edit: yup... arrests were made. http://community.livejournal.com/ontd_political/2324917.html Don't eff with the Internets!

>> ^necrontyr:
Sorry, downvote on this one. I cannot in good conscience see this as a valuable addition to the sift. It is like glorifying that woman rather than trying to ignore her.

Disagree. According to news reports, the kitty survived and the owners are trying to track down this woman. So the more publicity the better, so she can get her comeupance.

Of course if someone would just post this on 4chan, this woman would probably be tracked down in about an hour.

Binladen the cat

Die in a fire bitch

I read somewhere that as high as 1/10 people have traits that would be classed as psychopathic... but without an urge to be violent or kill they just walk among us.

To everyone else they seem selfish or cold or just weird.

But you can't know what they are thinking or do when they think no-one is watching.

Actually, part of the definition of psychopathy is that they appear to be normal.

>> ^Faye2441:

Just goes to show you, they never look like you would expect.

I have to say I'm relieved that she just put the cat in the bin. When he hopped up on the wall I immediately began imagining she might smash his skull against it or snap his neck or something else truly twisted.

>> ^shponglefan:

>> ^necrontyr:
Sorry, downvote on this one. I cannot in good conscience see this as a valuable addition to the sift. It is like glorifying that woman rather than trying to ignore her.
Disagree. According to news reports, the kitty survived and the owners are trying to track down this woman. So the more publicity the better, so she can get her comeupance.
Of course if someone would just post this on 4chan, this woman would probably be tracked down in about an hour.


If she was in porn yeah...but I don't really think 4Chan is this good...I mean better than the police.

Just goes to show you though...Humanities days are numbered...eventually someone with their hand on the button will be just like this.

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Some people hate cats. I know, my Internet friends, this is hard to believe - but I have met them. Usually they are people with allergies, a sand box in their backyard or with a phobia of toxoplasmosis.

FTR, I love kitties, but I read somewhere that one difference between a cat and a dog - is that if a dog is shut in a room with a dead owner, he will eventually starve to death with the body of his master. A cat, on the other hand - will have a little feast.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here...it sounds like you're justifying her throwing the cat in a garbage bin because she's afraid of it or getting toxoplasmosis, etc.



>> ^dag:

Some people hate cats. I know, my Internet friends, this is hard to believe - but I have met them. Usually they are people with allergies, a sand box in their backyard or with a phobia of toxoplasmosis.
FTR, I love kitties, but I read somewhere that one difference between a cat and a dog - is that if a dog is shut in a room with a dead owner, he will eventually starve to death with the body of his master. A cat, on the other hand - will have a little feast.

I'm a cat person. Big time. So don't get me wrong here, but I couldn't help but laugh at this. My brain simply couldn't handle the absurdity of someone running into a cat, petting it for a bit, looking around and then picking it up and throwing it in the garbage. It short circuited the logic center of my brain, and I laughed. I also read before I watched the video that whatever happened to the cat, that it was not injured so I felt a bit less guilty.

I do hope they find this person and exact some sort of smart revenge, something legal that will leave a lasting impression on this person. A long time ago on Halloween, probably 10 years now, I ran into a kid trying to shove a firecracker up a cats ass. I later learned from police that this happens a lot; mind blown. I'll say this much, the kid did not succeed and I ended up having a long night with police sorting out what ended up happening.

It licks the lotion off or it gets the bin again.

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Not trying to justify - just saying that rather than the illogical act of a psychopath, this may be the action of someone who sincerely and openly hates cats.>> ^Jaace:

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here...it sounds like you're justifying her throwing the cat in a garbage bin because she's afraid of it or getting toxoplasmosis, etc.

>> ^dag:
Some people hate cats. I know, my Internet friends, this is hard to believe - but I have met them. Usually they are people with allergies, a sand box in their backyard or with a phobia of toxoplasmosis.
FTR, I love kitties, but I read somewhere that one difference between a cat and a dog - is that if a dog is shut in a room with a dead owner, he will eventually starve to death with the body of his master. A cat, on the other hand - will have a little feast.

>> ^dag:

FTR, I love kitties, but I read somewhere that one difference between a cat and a dog - is that if a dog is shut in a room with a dead owner, he will eventually starve to death with the body of his master. A cat, on the other hand - will have a little feast.


That's because cats are smart enough to want to survive.

Well, I don't think "loyalty" is high on the list of reasons why people own/love cats. They're kind of cuddley, but they're egoists to the core.>> ^dag:

Some people hate cats. I know, my Internet friends, this is hard to believe - but I have met them. Usually they are people with allergies, a sand box in their backyard or with a phobia of toxoplasmosis.
FTR, I love kitties, but I read somewhere that one difference between a cat and a dog - is that if a dog is shut in a room with a dead owner, he will eventually starve to death with the body of his master. A cat, on the other hand - will have a little feast.

Offering a possible explanation or insight for something isn't the same as justifying it. >> ^Jaace:

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here...it sounds like you're justifying her throwing the cat in a garbage bin because she's afraid of it or getting toxoplasmosis, etc.

>> ^dag:
Not trying to justify - just saying that rather than the illogical act of a psychopath, this may be the action of someone who sincerely and openly hates cats.>> ^Jaace:
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here...it sounds like you're justifying her throwing the cat in a garbage bin because she's afraid of it or getting toxoplasmosis, etc.
>> ^dag:
Some people hate cats. I know, my Internet friends, this is hard to believe - but I have met them. Usually they are people with allergies, a sand box in their backyard or with a phobia of toxoplasmosis.
FTR, I love kitties, but I read somewhere that one difference between a cat and a dog - is that if a dog is shut in a room with a dead owner, he will eventually starve to death with the body of his master. A cat, on the other hand - will have a little feast.




Quit trying to apologize for that c*nt. A person who hates cats would just ignore the cat. Putting someone's pet in a garbage bin where the animal could potentially remain and die of dehydration is the act of a psycho. Bitch deserves to be taken out of the gene pool.

Many cats are completely worthless animals that hate everyone and just waste resources, but I wouldn't put one in a bin like that because I'm not a douche.

>> ^shponglefan:
Putting someone's pet in a garbage bin where the animal could potentially remain and die of dehydration is the act of a psycho. Bitch deserves to be taken out of the gene pool.

>> ^nomino:

Die in a fire bitch


Yes she deserves to be punished. But all you people who wish death and terrible things to this woman - look in the mirror - you're the fucked up psychos.

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This is true.
>> ^mentality:

>> ^shponglefan:
Putting someone's pet in a garbage bin where the animal could potentially remain and die of dehydration is the act of a psycho. Bitch deserves to be taken out of the gene pool.

Yes she deserves to be punished. But all you people who wish death and terrible things to this woman - look in the mirror - you're the fucked up psychos.

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I think that's why we love cats. We are see ourselves in them.

>> ^Fletch:

Well, I don't think "loyalty" is high on the list of reasons why people own/love cats. They're kind of cuddley, but they're egoists to the core.>> ^dag:
Some people hate cats. I know, my Internet friends, this is hard to believe - but I have met them. Usually they are people with allergies, a sand box in their backyard or with a phobia of toxoplasmosis.
FTR, I love kitties, but I read somewhere that one difference between a cat and a dog - is that if a dog is shut in a room with a dead owner, he will eventually starve to death with the body of his master. A cat, on the other hand - will have a little feast.

>> ^dag:
I think that's why we love cats. We are see ourselves in them.
That's probably why I hate dogs.

>> ^mentality:
>> ^shponglefan:
Putting someone's pet in a garbage bin where the animal could potentially remain and die of dehydration is the act of a psycho. Bitch deserves to be taken out of the gene pool.

>> ^nomino:
Die in a fire bitch

Yes she deserves to be punished. But all you people who wish death and terrible things to this woman - look in the mirror - you're the fucked up psychos.


First of all, learn to recognize hyperbole. Second of all, as a pet owner I think you are completely full of shit.

Let me ask you this: if she had done the same to a baby, would you have the same lackadaisical reaction?

I'm betting that the cat represented the younger pussy her husband left her for...

I love cats because they are very lean, and very high in protein.

What if this video was titled "Woman plays trick on Cat?" Then it would be funny! right? right?

Yes she deserves to be punished. But all you people who wish death and terrible things to this woman - look in the mirror - you're the fucked up psychos.

All beings suffer, but only humans go out of their way to cause more suffering without reason. A quick, relatively painless elimination of this woman would reduce her suffering to zero and make the world safer for innocent beings.

>> ^shponglefan:
First of all, learn to recognize hyperbole. Second of all, as a pet owner I think you are completely full of shit.
Let me ask you this: if she had done the same to a baby, would you have the same lackadaisical reaction?


Irony.

Also, comparing a cat to a baby is moronic.

>> ^quantumushroom:
All beings suffer, but only humans go out of their way to cause more suffering without reason. A quick, relatively painless elimination of this woman would reduce her suffering to zero and make the world safer for innocent beings.


In most of your posts, I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're actually being serious and just completely insane.

>> ^Fusionaut:
What if this video was titled "Woman plays trick on Cat?" Then it would be funny! right? right?


Not after finding out the cat was trapped there for 15 hours while it's owners frantically searched for it.

>> ^dag:

This is true.
>> ^mentality:
>> ^shponglefan:
Putting someone's pet in a garbage bin where the animal could potentially remain and die of dehydration is the act of a psycho. Bitch deserves to be taken out of the gene pool.

Yes she deserves to be punished. But all you people who wish death and terrible things to this woman - look in the mirror - you're the fucked up psychos.



Dare I say, bullshit? Some of us can see the difference between wanting something and doing something. I would want her to be punished, but I'm not going to go out and beat her up

people forget that , humans kill spiders and flies mice and manny other creatures all the time ,

granted a mouse , spider , flie is different from a cat , but when people panic and kill spiders and stuff nedlessely they are often not doing it for a logical reasoin. ( the cretures interlect is not a factor in there actoins)

say i had a pet spider and it just happend to be of the gneric varity of spider , and sumone stood on it on perpouse for fun becase they dont like spiders , i can almost garentee that 90% of people would think that was harmless as opossed to sumone stamping on a cat.

The biggest resoin why people give 2 shits about cats its purely because they have charactoristics of human babies , not becuse they are more interlectual or logically a more seserving creture.

If people realy gave a shit about animales far more people would be vegitareain or at leat rear there own animales but most people dont , most people woul value a cat over a cow or a simulary interlectual animal , purely becuse its cultraly acceptable to do so.

ethor way its bad to be cruel to animels needlessely and thats what this woman is doing , but at the same time u have to put that in perspective with how manny people are crule to animals or somply dont give a shit you cannot lable this woman a psychopath specifcally because this video shows her hurting an animal that people oin a wesrern culture dispropotoinatly have respect for.

>> ^quantumushroom:

All beings suffer, but only humans go out of their way to cause more suffering without reason.


Not true. Observe:

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Wise words.>> ^westy:

people forget that , humans kill spiders and flies mice and manny other creatures all the time ,
granted a mouse , spider , flie is different from a cat , but when people panic and kill spiders and stuff nedlessely they are often not doing it for a logical reasoin. ( the cretures interlect is not a factor in there actoins)
say i had a pet spider and it just happend to be of the gneric varity of spider , and sumone stood on it on perpouse for fun becase they dont like spiders , i can almost garentee that 90% of people would think that was harmless as opossed to sumone stamping on a cat.
The biggest resoin why people give 2 shits about cats its purely because they have charactoristics of human babies , not becuse they are more interlectual or logically a more seserving creture.
If people realy gave a shit about animales far more people would be vegitareain or at leat rear there own animales but most people dont , most people woul value a cat over a cow or a simulary interlectual animal , purely becuse its cultraly acceptable to do so.
ethor way its bad to be cruel to animels needlessely and thats what this woman is doing , but at the same time u have to put that in perspective with how manny people are crule to animals or somply dont give a shit you cannot lable this woman a psychopath specifcally because this video shows her hurting an animal that people oin a wesrern culture dispropotoinatly have respect for.

She's been identified (
Sky News article). She's being offered police protection due to the amount of anger and death threats against her:

"A woman who was filmed putting a cat in a wheelie bin has been offered police protection after being identified by the RSPCA.

The grey-haired suspect was tracked down after she was caught on CCTV by the cat's owners, Daryll and Stephanie Mann, at their Coventry home.

Sky's Lisa Dowd said the woman was being offered police protection because of the "level of vitriol against her".

She said residents in Coventry were extremely angry, and death threats had been made against the woman on the internet.

"West Midlands Police are taking her safety extremely seriously," she said."

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So, yeah @gwiz665 - per the below information - most definitely not bullshit. It's a quick trip from words to action. I think I may have mentioned this before- but the things we say and write have consequences and repercussions - and sometime amplify out into the wider world.
>> ^Hybrid:

She's been identified (
Sky News article). She's being offered police protection due to the amount of anger and death threats against her:
"A woman who was filmed putting a cat in a wheelie bin has been offered police protection after being identified by the RSPCA.
The grey-haired suspect was tracked down after she was caught on CCTV by the cat's owners, Daryll and Stephanie Mann, at their Coventry home.
Sky's Lisa Dowd said the woman was being offered police protection because of the "level of vitriol against her".
She said residents in Coventry were extremely angry, and death threats had been made against the woman on the internet.
"West Midlands Police are taking her safety extremely seriously," she said."

painless elimination? how is the elimination of any human being painless? she probably has children, a husband, you think it'll be painless for them?
The thought of people like yourself in positions of power terrifies the shit out of me, the fact that there's no lack of them (in positions of power) is just a sad testament about modern society.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Yes she deserves to be punished. But all you people who wish death and terrible things to this woman - look in the mirror - you're the fucked up psychos.
All beings suffer, but only humans go out of their way to cause more suffering without reason. A quick, relatively painless elimination of this woman would reduce her suffering to zero and make the world safer for innocent beings.

Not sure what the pet cruelty laws are like in the UK, which this seems to be where this is taking place at. But in the states if some woman had done this and the cat ended up being crushed to death in a garbage truck....she really wouldn't be looking at much. A bit of a fine maybe a mark on her record....cost of a replacement cat + vet bills. Which is what pisses me off the most when I see these videos, knowing that people do stuff a lot worse than this to animals and get off with a fine and a mark on their record.

A few of the more recent things that have been on the news are the people starving their horses, a couple who went on a couple week vacation and left an insane amount of animals left locked in the house and they all had to be put down because of the conditions they were in.

Breaking the window out of your house to enter is a more serious crime than killing your dog on the way to the window.

I understand wanting to have pets and you having to have reasonable protection put in place to keep your pets from hurting people. It's just there's nothing on the flip side of that to protect your pets from people hurting them. It puts a pretty big burden on pet owners while giving the animal about the same status as an outside light. Your mailbox on the other hand has some federal protections.

Just imagining I'm her solicitor here.

"Your honour, my client was concerned for the welfare of this cat in the modern urban environment. As you know many cats are run over by motor vehicles. To avoid this possibility she decided to stow the cat for safekeeping and was intending to return later in the day to monitor its progress".

She's not been arrested, as she has not committed a criminal offense. I'm not sure if the RSPCA can bring a civil case against her however. (BBC News)

Well, @dag, the difference is the people who do the things are the psychopaths, not those of us who are disgusted by her actions.

Saying - among friends or associates, such as here - that she's a wicked person, a fucking bitch and whatever other explitive you want to add is in no way psychopathic and to suggest it is undermining the meaning of the word.

SHE is likely a psychopath, if she does not feel remorse or have "bad feelings" about doing this to an innocent animal.

She deserves punishment, not death. If someone thinks she deserves death for this, then their moral compass is screwed up, but they are not psychopaths.

So once again, bullshit.

If you or anyone else wants to sit in a soundproof booth of self-censoring and not try to rock the boat, go ahead, but don't expect other people to join you there.

>> ^flechette:

>> ^dag:
FTR, I love kitties, but I read somewhere that one difference between a cat and a dog - is that if a dog is shut in a room with a dead owner, he will eventually starve to death with the body of his master. A cat, on the other hand - will have a little feast.

That's because cats are smart enough to want to survive.


I once had a neighbor catsitting for another neighbor. The litter box was kept in the basement. One day the catsitter absentmindedly closed the basement door. Rather than shit and piss anywhere else in the house, the cat held it until its kidneys shut down and it died. Yeah, real smart.

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It's interesting that the first ever interaction I ever had with you Gwiz was around your concept of "self censorship". Let me reiterate what I said all those many months ago: Just because you can say anything you want, doesn't mean you should. That includes threats to maim or kill little old ladies with Alzheimers.
>> ^gwiz665:

Well, @dag, the difference is the people who do the things are the psychopaths, not those of us who are disgusted by her actions.
Saying - among friends or associates, such as here - that she's a wicked person, a fucking bitch and whatever other explitive you want to add is in no way psychopathic and to suggest it is undermining the meaning of the word.
SHE is likely a psychopath, if she does not feel remorse or have "bad feelings" about doing this to an innocent animal.
She deserves punishment, not death. If someone thinks she deserves death for this, then their moral compass is screwed up, but they are not psychopaths.
So once again, bullshit.
If you or anyone else wants to sit in a soundproof booth of self-censoring and not try to rock the boat, go ahead, but don't expect other people to join you there.

>> ^dag:

Some people hate cats. I know, my Internet friends, this is hard to believe - but I have met them. Usually they are people with allergies, a sand box in their backyard or with a phobia of toxoplasmosis.


Some people hate a kind of animal. These people are usually referred to as idiots or morons. Hate, seriously? I mean I don't like rats, but I'm not gonna go out of my way to harm one if it means no harm to me. I certainly don't hate rats, why would I? The actions of this woman were more likely motivated by her psychosis and not by a dislike for cats. Look at how she pets the cat before she throws it into the bin. If I didn't know any better I'd say she's a late blooming serial killer in the making.

>> ^Deano:

Just imagining I'm her solicitor here.
"Your honour, my client was concerned for the welfare of this cat in the modern urban environment. As you know many cats are run over by motor vehicles. To avoid this possibility she decided to stow the cat for safekeeping and was intending to return later in the day to monitor its progress".


Sure, If you're going for an insanity defense.

I openly don't like cats, but they are still someone's pets. I figure as much as I love dogs, people love cats. I wouldn't toss someone's pet into a garbage bin. However, if I saw it happen, I wouldn't feel bad. I'd probably laugh at the situation of seeing an old lady toss it in the bin. Doesn't make me anymore a pyschopath than the old lady. Just means I don't give a shit about cats. A dog I would save. Just how the world turns.

What kind of person would fill a soundproof booth of self-censoring with water and put a boat in there?

I love "explainers". Say something other people criticize, and then imply other people are stupid for not "getting" you or are just not perceiving your particular form of linguistic conveyance. And then you go on to agree with a comment that says basically what you did without using hyperbole.

Mentality said "you're the fucked up psychos". Do you not recognize hyperbole? Earlier, you used the same term (psycho) as mentality. Why is it hyberbole when you use it, but you fail to see it as such when others use it? Do you think hyberbole is incapable of relating the true feelings of a writer? Or is it just a convenient method of saying whatever bat-shit nonsense you wish, complete with back door?

Also, your proclamation of pet ownership is simply a comical appeal to authority. Is it also the basis of your behavioural profile of cat haters, such as the "c*nt"? Do you realize that more people have pets than have children? Did you intend for people to read your comment and think, "Oh look... pet owner. I thought he was just an idiot before, but it's obvious now that he knows what he's talking about."?

Your weak analogy of cat and baby is a logical fallacy in itself.>> ^shponglefan:
First of all, learn to recognize hyperbole. Second of all, as a pet owner I think you are completely full of shit.
Let me ask you this: if she had done the same to a baby, would you have the same lackadaisical reaction?

Well, 4chan has her name. It's only a matter of time now. Already an Encyclopedia Dramatica article about her:

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Bincat

"Lola, a four-year-old tabby, was discovered 15 hours later by owner Darryl Mann after he heard her cries."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-11068063

"What is the Law?"
"WHAT IS THE LAW?"

"Not to go on all-fours; that is the Law. Are we not Men?"



Laws are the lines that we agree upon, as a society, and fuzzy is the line that separates the disposal of a cat with the disposal of a rat.

"Evil are the punishments of those who break the Law. None escape."
>>to the House of Pain [quotes from HG Wells' "the Island of Dr. Moreau"

And here come the photoshoppers:

http://uppix.net/b/3/3/f32b17413c0f0e3c03b0e8b5569f2.jpg

I have a hard time getting enraged over what, in a movie, would be laughed at by almost everyone.

>> ^PHJF:

I once had a neighbor catsitting for another neighbor. The litter box was kept in the basement. One day the catsitter absentmindedly closed the basement door. Rather than shit and piss anywhere else in the house, the cat held it until its kidneys shut down and it died. Yeah, real smart.


Sounds like the cat died of thirst, not stupidity.

LEAVE KITTY ALONE, BITCH!

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*controversy

Adding video to channels (Controversy) - requested by dag.

when i was a kid we lived in what can only be described as an upper middle class crack house with cats everywhere. dozens of them. everywhere.

one day several of the non-feral outside cats turned up missing. we finally found they had all been taken to the pound on different days. 3 of them had already been put to sleep and the rest of them had contracted a nasty case of the kitty aids.

we found out it was a new neighbor down the street who had trapped them all one by one and hauled them off to the pound.

my dad was crazy. and we lived with about a dozen or so drug addicted, gender confused teens/early 20 somethings.
so........... we all exacted our revenge.

my dad had taken to sneaking onto her driveway every night with a vat of ketchup and a stuffed kitten on a noose, hanging the cat from a tree and painting the words (with kethcup) "cat murdering bitch" all over her garage door. we were all encouraged to egg and tp her house. whenever someone would pass out we would drag them into her flower bed and leave them there. my brother, who was addicted to crack at the time, pissed and shit all over front yard a few times. (she had apparently trapped our cats for messing up her flowerbed and spraying her front porch). this went on for weeks. i dont remember why it stopped and i dont recall if she ever did anything about the harrassment. but i thought it was a nice revenge story to share.

If this video involved a dog instead of a cat...

- lol, evil #*@(! <0>

- Hope someone catches her. <2>

- Moving this video to bleedmegood's personal queue. It failed to receive enough votes to get sifted up to the front page within 2 days. <0>

She did it as a joke apparently...

"But bank worker Ms Bale said she does not know what all the fuss is about. adding: "It's just a cat."

She told The Sun: "I don't know what came over me, but I suddenly thought it would be funny to put it in the wheelie bin, which was right beside me.

"I did it as a joke because I thought it would be funny. I never thought it would be trapped. I expected it to wriggle out of the bin.""

Source: Sky News

>> ^necrontyr:

Sorry, downvote on this one. I cannot in good conscience see this as a valuable addition to the sift. It is like glorifying that woman rather than trying to ignore her.
I know some will disagree and argue that the sift will help get the word out, but I respectfully disagree and think this video, while likely submitted with the best intentions, has no place on the sift.


There is a difference between being famous and being notorious. I don't understand how you can think this video "glorifies" the woman when no sane person would agree with or applaud what she did. But everybody has their own opinion.

Someone should tell her this is the precise moment to be contrite and on-message. Else keep digging...

>> ^Hybrid:

She did it as a joke apparently...
"But bank worker Ms Bale said she does not know what all the fuss is about. adding: "It's just a cat."
She told The Sun: "I don't know what came over me, but I suddenly thought it would be funny to put it in the wheelie bin, which was right beside me.
"I did it as a joke because I thought it would be funny. I never thought it would be trapped. I expected it to wriggle out of the bin.""
Source: Sky News

>> ^peggedbea:
A long anecdote of their childhood that I upvoted cuz you made it out. That's some fucked up shit. Not knowing you, it could be all BS but it has enough detail to make me decide to suspend my disbelief.

Every day we are subjected to story after story of vile scum getting away with all manner of crimes. Too often it's actually worse for society when they are captured alive and carted off to be treated like kings, defended by an army of parasitic lawyers as a reward for breaking in to someone's house or business or physically assaulting the elderly or children, and that's just local news, ignoring the usual cadre of dick-tators/Illuminati or whomever stands in for "the forces of evil" on a global scale.

There is no moral confusion about this vid. This a crime people understand on a fundamental level, a cruel act towards a defenseless animal. There are billions of instances like this, most perhaps far worse. The cat represents ALL those abused animals and unfortunately for this idiot, she now represents ALL those human vermin that abuse animals and get away with it, except she got caught.

As for my own words:

Let us consider that we are all partially insane. It will explain us to each other; it will unriddle many riddles; it will make clear and simple many things which are involved in haunting and harassing difficulties and obscurities now.

- Mark Twain



>> ^mentality:

>> ^quantumushroom:
All beings suffer, but only humans go out of their way to cause more suffering without reason. A quick, relatively painless elimination of this woman would reduce her suffering to zero and make the world safer for innocent beings.

In most of your posts, I can't tell if you're trolling or if you're actually being serious and just completely insane.

>> ^necrontyr:

Sorry, downvote on this one. I cannot in good conscience see this as a valuable addition to the sift. It is like glorifying that woman rather than trying to ignore her.
I know some will disagree and argue that the sift will help get the word out, but I respectfully disagree and think this video, while likely submitted with the best intentions, has no place on the sift.
You asked for it, I completely disagree and find your reasoning closed minded. The sift is here for anyone and everyone to see many things. Sure there are limitations on what can appear on here, but if you can't handle the harsh reality stuff, I suggest not watching it. While I found what the woman did disgusting, it's reality and the submitter chose to share it with us.



p.s. I assure you, she has received nothing but death threats and vitriol for her actions because of the internet. Your logic of her being glorified is completely inaccurate.

>> ^gwiz665:

>> ^dag:
This is true.
>> ^mentality:
>> ^shponglefan:
Putting someone's pet in a garbage bin where the animal could potentially remain and die of dehydration is the act of a psycho. Bitch deserves to be taken out of the gene pool.

Yes she deserves to be punished. But all you people who wish death and terrible things to this woman - look in the mirror - you're the fucked up psychos.


Dare I say, bullshit? Some of us can see the difference between wanting something and doing something. I would want her to be punished, but I'm not going to go out and beat her up


You want her to be punished, as do I. I doubt that you, or anyone here except QM seriously wants her to die.

And you talk about the difference between wanting something and doing something. The thing that stops us from doing is either our inability or our fear of the consequences of our actions. Both of these can also apply to a psychopath. A psychopath does not have to commit any crimes, and there are many psychopaths that are highly functional in society.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Every day we are subjected to story after story of vile scum getting away with all manner of crimes. Too often it's actually worse for society when they are captured alive and carted off to be treated like kings, defended by an army of parasitic lawyers as a reward for breaking in to someone's house or business or physically assaulting the elderly or children, and that's just local news, ignoring the usual cadre of dick-tators/Illuminati or whomever stands in for "the forces of evil" on a global scale.
There is no moral confusion about this vid. This a crime people understand on a fundamental level, a cruel act towards a defenseless animal. There are billions of instances like this, most perhaps far worse. The cat represents ALL those abused animals and unfortunately for this idiot, she now represents ALL those human vermin that abuse animals and get away with it, except she got caught.
As for my own words:
Let us consider that we are all partially insane. It will explain us to each other; it will unriddle many riddles; it will make clear and simple many things which are involved in haunting and harassing difficulties and obscurities now.
- Mark Twain

A world where a human would get euthanized for putting a cat in a bin would be a special kind of hell. Any act that causes suffering to another being, whether its human or cat (or a cow?, or a rat? Where do you draw the line?) could fit your criteria. And what about emotional trauma? Plenty of suffering and damage is inflicted without ever laying a finger on another. Furthermore, you can't just neat and tidily remove a person from existence. What about all the people who love and depend on that person?

While it's vastly different than the policies of Hitler and Stalin, any practical attempt at applying your ideology would make you a greater tyrant and a greater enemy of freedom than all the Hitler and Stalins of the world combined. Like most of your posts, you're not providing a conservative counter balance to the liberal bias of the Sift. Your ideas are just so ridiculous that it only alienates your position.

It seems she has been indentified and people are actually protesting her house.

"Thanks to the powers of viral video, a British woman who unceremoniously dumped a cat in a garbage can has been caught. Mary Bale became an Internet villain after the cat’s owners posted security video of her first petting Lola, then dropping her into the trash can for no apparent reason. Lola was recovered—alive—15 hours later, and police identified Bale, who is being investigated by the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, the New York Times reports.

Angry people have gathered outside Bale’s house, police say, but Bale doesn’t know “what the fuss is about,” she tells the Daily Mail. “It’s just a cat.” Her mother insists Bale “loves animals” and that “she can’t explain why she did it,” but Bale herself had no trouble giving the Mail an explanation: “I did it as a joke because I thought it would be funny. I never thought it would be trapped, I expected it to wriggle out.”"

Read more: http://www.newser.com/story/98888/woman-who-threw-cat-in-trash-can-caught.html#ixzz0xf4mbhDj

Comparing a cat to a child is more apt than you might think. Our fascination with cats (dogs too) springs from parental instincts. Pets are roughly the size of human babies. They make noises similar to a young child. They are dependent on our feeding and care and in return they give us love and affection. Our interaction with pets is very much like our interaction with children.

The outrage in this thread seems very instinctual and evolutionary to me. Anyone who would purposely jeopardize a young fragile life in this manner should be cast out for the well being of the tribe. Child murderer = baaaaad. The violent rhetoric in this thread serves as negative reinforcement to this kind of sociopathic behavior.

Would you hire this woman to baby sit your kid? (If you said no, your evolutionary instinct is in good shape.)

Sooo... uh, yeah, not really sure what 'fallacy' you had in mind in your angry little rant, but you got it wrong. shponglefan has made a good point here.


>> ^Fletch:
Your weak analogy of cat and baby is a logical fallacy in itself.>>

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I don't know, DFT, I saw it as a pretty straightforward false analogy. A CATegory error, if you will?

Cat ≠ Human

Cat murderer ≠ Child murderer

There is a bit of a gradient between cat and human. Why should there not be a moral gradient when distinguishing the two?

Instinctual/emotional outrage would seem a likely contributor of confusion to the above distinction, imo.

The fact that I now have to openly express that I don't condone either for pointing this out also pisses me right the hell off (not attributing this to anyone in particular, it's just the nature of the beast when commenting on anything on the Internets, misunderstandings/mis-attributions of intent are inevitable).

Moral Gradients for the Obvious Impaired

Not killing a pet > Killing a pet
Killing a pet > Killing a baby
Killing 1 baby > Killing 2 babies
Killing 2 babies > Blowing up an elementary school full of kids
Blowing up an elementary school full of kids > the Holocaust

Might I remind your honor and gentle ladies and men of the jury that I only killed one baby. It's not like I killed 6 million Jews or anything like that. -AnimalsForCrackers on trial after he put a baby in a trash can

^Is this what you are getting at?

Killing innocent creatures for fun is evil, whether the innocent creature is a baby, a pet kitty, a pet puppy or a pet bunny. Also, baby killing and pet killing are not mutually exclusive. Torturing animals is a common trait among serial killers. I'm kind of flabbergasted that these arguments have to be made.

IT'S EEEEEEVIIIIILLLLLLLL!!!!! : George W Bush.

"Sooo... uh, yeah, not really sure what 'fallacy' you had in mind in your angry little rant..."

It's the fallacy called "weak analogy". From twenty-one years ago... week one of Philosophy 101, I believe.

You can make analogy for ANY two things. A "weak analogy" isn't saying the comparisons you are making aren't true. It's saying that the comparisons you are making don't support your original claim, or, that the two things being compared aren't alike in ways relevant to your point.

So, what is shponglefan's claim? Well, if you can wade through his (or her, w/e) spittle, he was defending his position that she should be killed, unless, of course, by "taken out of the gene pool" he simply meant fitted and forced to wear a chastity device of some kind. I'm gonna assume it was the former. His analogy of baby and cat was in defence of that claim. Mentality basically stated he was a psycho for wishing for her death, and shponglefan defended his position by making the analogy. His claim is that babies and cats have either moral or legal equivalency when it comes to meting out punishment (if I see it correctly).

Of course it was a dispicable act. No stable person wantonly hurts animals. But animals, and, specifically in this case, the cat, aren't the same as babies in the eyes of the law. The legal (and moral) realities of society just don't permit executions for animal abuse, as much as you wish it. If that had been a baby, she'd never see daylight again, and the police wouldn't be protecting her, they'd have thrown her in jail where she would be in mortal danger if the story ever permeated the inmate population. If the hypothetical baby had died, she may be facing the death penalty. The fact is that animal abuse is not the same as child abuse. Not by a long shot. Shponglefan pulled the analogy out of his ass to cover his irrational call for her death. It was an emotional appeal that had no bearing to either the facts, or his own premise. It was a WEAK ANALOGY.

Your comparisons of babies and cats, while all true, don't support your claim that shponglefan was making a good point. If you are defending shponglefan's "point" because babies and kittens make similar noises when they are young, and/or because babies and cats are the same size when born, then your first paragraph is also a WEAK ANALOGY. If you weren't offering the analogy as support for your claim, then it's a red herring. Either way, you got it wrong.

And no, I wouldn't hire her.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Comparing a cat to a child is more apt than you might think. Our fascination with cats (dogs too) springs from parental instincts. Pets are roughly the size of human babies. They make noises similar to a young child. They are dependent on our feeding and care and in return they give us love and affection. Our interaction with pets is very much like our interaction with children.
The outrage in this thread seems very instinctual and evolutionary to me. Anyone who would purposely jeopardize a young fragile life in this manner should be cast out for the well being of the tribe. Child murderer = baaaaad. The violent rhetoric in this thread serves as negative reinforcement to this kind of sociopathic behavior.
Would you hire this woman to baby sit your kid? (If you said no, your evolutionary instinct is in good shape.)
Sooo... uh, yeah, not really sure what 'fallacy' you had in mind in your angry little rant, but you got it wrong. shponglefan has made a good point here.

>> ^Fletch:
Your weak analogy of cat and baby is a logical fallacy in itself.>>

I'm kind of flabbergasted that you still haven't figured out that most of us already know these things, and they aren't what we are talking about. Still, if you must rant...>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:

Killing innocent creatures for fun is evil, whether the innocent creature is a baby, a pet kitty, a pet puppy or a pet bunny. Also, baby killing and pet killing are not mutually exclusive. Torturing animals is a common trait among serial killers. I'm kind of flabbergasted that these arguments have to be made.

Here's another awful comparison for you dft.

If I had a choice between starving and eating a human baby, I'd starve.
If I had a choice between starving and eating a cat, I'd live.

The instinctual feelings you talk about exist almost exclusively between humans and other humans. We are built to protect young, our young. Most don't care about other animals. Most eat other animals. Just because it is a cat and many have them as pets doesn't make it any more wrong than if it was a squirrel or a rabbit.

As for the killing innocent creatures comment, show me a creature that isn't innocent. When I go deer hunting, it isn't because the deer came to my house and robbed me and stole my Nike's.

So you may breathe easier, I do not endorse the murder of this woman, but recognize her sociopathy will exist as long as she does. Most of the peeps furious at the idiot would not kill her, even if the State gave us permission to pull the trigger, but do not doubt their rage is real.

Humans are barely rational. To some people, cats and dogs are their "children". If the pet owners had caught the idiot in the act and beaten the crap out of her, I would be hard-pressed to convict what could be considered a "crime of passion". If they actually killed her...I dunno.

As for providing a 'conservative counterpoint' to the sift, I say what needs to be said with no concern for the outcome. People don't comment on the internet to challenge their own ideas, even if it happens from time to time.

>> ^mentality:

>> ^quantumushroom:
Every day we are subjected to story after story of vile scum getting away with all manner of crimes. Too often it's actually worse for society when they are captured alive and carted off to be treated like kings, defended by an army of parasitic lawyers as a reward for breaking in to someone's house or business or physically assaulting the elderly or children, and that's just local news, ignoring the usual cadre of dick-tators/Illuminati or whomever stands in for "the forces of evil" on a global scale.
There is no moral confusion about this vid. This a crime people understand on a fundamental level, a cruel act towards a defenseless animal. There are billions of instances like this, most perhaps far worse. The cat represents ALL those abused animals and unfortunately for this idiot, she now represents ALL those human vermin that abuse animals and get away with it, except she got caught.
As for my own words:
Let us consider that we are all partially insane. It will explain us to each other; it will unriddle many riddles; it will make clear and simple many things which are involved in haunting and harassing difficulties and obscurities now.
- Mark Twain
A world where a human would get euthanized for putting a cat in a bin would be a special kind of hell. Any act that causes suffering to another being, whether its human or cat (or a cow?, or a rat? Where do you draw the line?) could fit your criteria. And what about emotional trauma? Plenty of suffering and damage is inflicted without ever laying a finger on another. Furthermore, you can't just neat and tidily remove a person from existence. What about all the people who love and depend on that person?
While it's vastly different than the policies of Hitler and Stalin, any practical attempt at applying your ideology would make you a greater tyrant and a greater enemy of freedom than all the Hitler and Stalins of the world combined. Like most of your posts, you're not providing a conservative counter balance to the liberal bias of the Sift. Your ideas are just so ridiculous that it only alienates your position.

This not genuine psychopathy.

tl; dr

>> ^Fletch:

"Sooo... uh, yeah, not really sure what 'fallacy' you had in mind in your angry little rant..."
It's the fallacy called "weak analogy". From twenty-one years ago... week one of Philosophy 101, I believe.
You can make analogy for ANY two things. A "weak analogy" isn't saying the comparisons you are making aren't true. It's saying that the comparisons you are making don't support your original claim, or, that the two things being compared aren't alike in ways relevant to your point.
So, what is shponglefan's claim? Well, if you can wade through his (or her, w/e) spittle, he was defending his position that she should be killed, unless, of course, by "taken out of the gene pool" he simply meant fitted and forced to wear a chastity device of some kind. I'm gonna assume it was the former. His analogy of baby and cat was in defence of that claim. Mentality basically stated he was a psycho for wishing for her death, and shponglefan defended his position by making the analogy. His claim is that babies and cats have either moral or legal equivalency when it comes to meting out punishment (if I see it correctly).
Of course it was a dispicable act. No stable person wantonly hurts animals. But animals, and, specifically in this case, the cat, aren't the same as babies in the eyes of the law. The legal (and moral) realities of society just don't permit executions for animal abuse, as much as you wish it. If that had been a baby, she'd never see daylight again, and the police wouldn't be protecting her, they'd have thrown her in jail where she would be in mortal danger if the story ever permeated the inmate population. If the hypothetical baby had died, she may be facing the death penalty. The fact is that animal abuse is not the same as child abuse. Not by a long shot. Shponglefan pulled the analogy out of his ass to cover his irrational call for her death. It was an emotional appeal that had no bearing to either the facts, or his own premise. It was a WEAK ANALOGY.
Your comparisons of babies and cats, while all true, don't support your claim that shponglefan was making a good point. If you are defending shponglefan's "point" because babies and kittens make similar noises when they are young, and/or because babies and cats are the same size when born, then your first paragraph is also a WEAK ANALOGY. If you weren't offering the analogy as support for your claim, then it's a red herring. Either way, you got it wrong.
And no, I wouldn't hire her.
>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
Comparing a cat to a child is more apt than you might think. Our fascination with cats (dogs too) springs from parental instincts. Pets are roughly the size of human babies. They make noises similar to a young child. They are dependent on our feeding and care and in return they give us love and affection. Our interaction with pets is very much like our interaction with children.
The outrage in this thread seems very instinctual and evolutionary to me. Anyone who would purposely jeopardize a young fragile life in this manner should be cast out for the well being of the tribe. Child murderer = baaaaad. The violent rhetoric in this thread serves as negative reinforcement to this kind of sociopathic behavior.
Would you hire this woman to baby sit your kid? (If you said no, your evolutionary instinct is in good shape.)
Sooo... uh, yeah, not really sure what 'fallacy' you had in mind in your angry little rant, but you got it wrong. shponglefan has made a good point here.

>> ^Fletch:
Your weak analogy of cat and baby is a logical fallacy in itself.>>

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/24/internet-finds-cat-t.html

4chan found them. specifically /b/. i've said it before and i'll say it again... don't fuck with /b/ or the things they hold dear (the internet loves cats)... kenny the cat abuser found this out the hard way, that brain-slushie girl found it out the hard way, and now this woman...

"Often dismissed as little more than a gang of anonymous bullies, there is some truth to the notion that the site is simultaneously the best and worst of the internet, and that when they put their collective minds together, there is no stopping them."

Just sayin'...


"(...) Of course if someone would just post this on 4chan, this woman would probably be tracked down in about an hour." -shponglefan

"If she was in porn yeah...but I don't really think 4Chan is this good...I mean better than the police." -Yogi

How come Anonymous doesn't go after this bitch?