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raverman says...

Maybe? Maybe that's why we're so fascinated with story lines of vigilantes and non-plussed when a hero kills anyone we can feel comfortable classing as "bad". Dexter, Breaking bad, etc.

Unchecked expansion of any creature is harmful.

We're stuck. We're uniquely social and empathetic (and selfish). We can't just kill off the baddies (but we fantasize about it). We can't prevent our population expanding (without ruthless mass contraceptives / eugenics). And we're part of a growth based system - like China: without enough young people to support the old, our economic system starts creak.

poolcleaner said:

Does that mean that there is an acceptable rate of harmful sociopathic behavior within human systems? So introduce large groups of calculating murderers into populations where the growth of humanity endangers the ecosystem?

How Wolves Changed Yellowstone National Park

raverman says...

The world has this misguided ideology that nature is about love and peace between creatures.

Predators are killers and therefore bad.... we've made them villains in our stories and we've struggled to have compassion when they are killed off enmass. At best we think of them killing and eating other creatures stoically but not enjoying the murder of it.

It creates a certain dissonance with the public narrative to say... bring in the predators, let them kill, let them eat the herbavores, let them restore balance.

We don't like what it says about ourselves as a creature in nature.

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