Steve Jobs dies. His life in 60 seconds.

Love or hate Apple... The industry has lost a legend. :(
spoco2says...

There's a lot to dislike about Apple, and by many accounts Jobs was an arsehole to work for, but there's no denying the impact he's had on the world.

One can only guess what will happen with Apple now, as you get the impression it was guided by a pretty strong vision in Jobs.

chilaxesays...

President Barack Obama expressed his condolences, tweeting from his official account:

"Rest in peace, Steve Jobs. From all of us at #Obama2012, thank you for the work you make possible every day —including ours."

reiwansays...

>> ^Sarzy:

So sad. How is it the 21st century and we haven't cured cancer yet??


Well, if your into conspiracy theories, there's money to be made not curing it. Me, i just think its harder to cure a genetic disease, than a viral (like polio). Sucks none the less.

spoco2says...

>> ^kymbos:

I'm amazed and saddened. That's so sudden!


I'm not sure how you can say it's sudden, he's been looking worse and worse, and it was pretty obvious he stood down due to health reasons.

Doesn't make it any less sad, but still

spoco2says...

>> ^Baera:

The man has done so much that it's easy to overlook things. For example: saving a dying division of Lucasfilm's, which we now know as Pixar.


Oh yeah, the man changed the world in a number of ways, that's one of the better ones to be sure

westysays...

It made me sad that he is dead which is pretty fucked up and shows you how shallow emotions can be, logically I don't care that he is dead not any more than any other person that has died.

We have this weird artificial image of him I don't even know who he is , he is probably as much a cunt as he is a nice guy.

Just because sum-one can be more easily attributed for there effect on the world should not mean we should necessarily celebrate them more or less than other people , or morn them more ore less than other people.

dagsays...

Just because you don't know him personally, doesn't mean your feelings of sadness are not valid. We're modern, tool-using, human beings and touched in all kinds ways by people we don't directly know. I cried when Ol' yeller died. A fictional character, not even in my species. >> ^westy:

It made me sad that he is dead which is pretty fucked up and shows you how shallow emotions can be, logically I don't care that he is dead not any more than any other person that has died.
We have this weird artificial image of him I don't even know who he is , he is probably as much a cunt as he is a nice guy.
Just because sum-one can be more easily attributed for there effect on the world should not mean we should necessarily celebrate them more or less than other people , or morn them more ore less than other people.

VoodooVsays...

We put him on a pedestal he does not deserve to be on.

And just so we're clear, I'd say the same thing about Bill Gates or any of these so-called tech leaders. We have surpassed the point where any one person is central to the success of technology. It takes hundreds, if not thousands of people to advance the ball.

There are a ton of people more responsible for the success of apple than Jobs is, but everyone loves their icons and their faux heroes. A leader enables others to succeed, not the other way around.

spoco2says...

>> ^VoodooV:

We put him on a pedestal he does not deserve to be on.
And just so we're clear, I'd say the same thing about Bill Gates or any of these so-called tech leaders. We have surpassed the point where any one person is central to the success of technology. It takes hundreds, if not thousands of people to advance the ball.
There are a ton of people more responsible for the success of apple than Jobs is, but everyone loves their icons and their faux heroes. A leader enables others to succeed, not the other way around.


It's nice to say that there are hundreds of people who are responsible for the success of Apple, but the simple fact is:

Apple under Steve Jobs = Success
Apple under other CEOs = barely hanging in there
Apple back under Steve Jobs = Insanely successful

Lucasfilm's digital department under Lucas... struggling, turned into Pixar by Jobs, now the creators of some of the finest movies there are.

HE alone has created these things. Sure many people carried things out, many people came up with the designs, many people engineered things... but you know what? Without a good leader no amount of great design and engineering will do you a jot of good... Look at Palm.

I have plenty of beefs with Apple as a company, but I also see some of the genius in their products, and the very clear vision embodied in them. Personally the man had issues with family and interactions with people, but no one person will be perfect in all ways, and the things he did well he did amazingly well.

notarobotsays...

Stay hungry. Stay foolish.


xxovercastxxsays...

>> ^VoodooV:

We have surpassed the point where any one person is central to the success of technology.


You may be right, but Steve was one of the few who got us to that point. It was very much not the case in 1976 when Steve and Woz started building computers in a garage.

VoodooVsays...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^VoodooV:
We have surpassed the point where any one person is central to the success of technology.

You may be right, but Steve was one of the few who got us to that point. It was very much not the case in 1976 when Steve and Woz started building computers in a garage.


It's not 1976 anymore. If not them, then someone else. This rockstar mentality needs to die.

longdesays...

You can't discount good leadership and vision in technology. Someone made a good point about where palm is today compared to Apple. Steve Jobs undoubtedly had a stellar vision and the moxy to drive others to achieve it.

LadyDeathsays...

Is not about Apple products and such a thing. This is about a human being who left behind a wife and his children. A person who battled with cancer.RIP Steve ,you made world a better place and you will be truly missed.

articiansays...

>> ^westy:

It made me sad that he is dead which is pretty fucked up and shows you how shallow emotions can be, logically I don't care that he is dead not any more than any other person that has died.
We have this weird artificial image of him I don't even know who he is , he is probably as much a cunt as he is a nice guy.
Just because sum-one can be more easily attributed for there effect on the world should not mean we should necessarily celebrate them more or less than other people , or morn them more ore less than other people.


Kind of the same feeling here. Every time I hear about a celebrity death, I wonder how many people died the same day who are completely unsung. Maybe I'm just bitter about those princess diana trading cards I got off ebay...

Yogijokingly says...

>> ^dag:

I cried when Ol' yeller died.>> ^westy:
It made me sad that he is dead which is pretty fucked up and shows you how shallow emotions can be, logically I don't care that he is dead not any more than any other person that has died.
We have this weird artificial image of him I don't even know who he is , he is probably as much a cunt as he is a nice guy.
Just because sum-one can be more easily attributed for there effect on the world should not mean we should necessarily celebrate them more or less than other people , or morn them more ore less than other people.



You are such a pussy.

ChaosEnginesays...

>> ^LadyDeath:

Is not about Apple products and such a thing. This is about a human being who left behind a wife and his children. A person who battled with cancer.RIP Steve ,you made world a better place and you will be truly missed.


Actually, it's not about a man who left behind a wife and kids. I don't know Jobs wife and kids, I don't even think I've even seen a picture of them. Thousands of people with wives and kids die every day, and we don't mourn their passing.

His death means something to people because of the companies and products he helped create. There's nothing wrong with that; if we mourned every random person (regardless of the individual tragedy to their friends and families) we would spend our lives in grief.

Jobs was a visionary and a leader. Whether you liked his vision or not is irrelevant.

And @VoodooV, I don't think he single-handedly did anything. There may have been scores of engineers, designers, etc behind him, but he was the one with balls to risk it on their vision. You say if not him, someone else, well that's true of any great achievement (Crick and Watson with DNA, Newton with pretty much most of science, Hillary with Everest, all had people close behind them). It doesn't matter, what matters is that he did it.

RIP Steve.

deathcowsays...

>> ^VoodooV:

We put him on a pedestal he does not deserve to be on.
And just so we're clear, I'd say the same thing about Bill Gates or any of these so-called tech leaders. We have surpassed the point where any one person is central to the success of technology. It takes hundreds, if not thousands of people to advance the ball.
There are a ton of people more responsible for the success of apple than Jobs is, but everyone loves their icons and their faux heroes. A leader enables others to succeed, not the other way around.


I'd say you have a distinct lack of perspective on the history of personal computing, the history of Apple and Steve Jobs in general.

chilaxesays...

@VoodooV

Apple's leaders ran it into the ground after Jobs got forced out, and then when he came back the company started changing the world again.

Good philosophy at the top means the difference between the work of everyone else in the company being either genius or worthless.

davidrainesays...

Steve Jobs was a great man, but this video is pretty bad, so it doesn't get an upvote. If you have significantly more than 60 seconds, I would recommend the documentary "Triumph of the Nerds" to get a better picture of Steve Jobs early contributions to Computing as well as the rest of the environment back in the late 70's and the 80's.

budzossays...

Pirates of Silicon Valley is a very interesting movie that offers a rounded portrait of Jobs as driven, visionary, and sometimes lacking perspective or empathy for the more petty aspects of fulfilling that vision. I think most highly successful people or large-scale leaders must be perceived that way by a certain portion of the people they encounter. You have to be a bit hard-nosed in order to think about the big picture.

Triumph of the Nerds gives more detail on the story in Pirates.

Ryjkyjsays...

I'm not saying anything about Steve Jobs personally when I bring this up. But I find it a little ironic that all my friends who've been posting about the recent "occupy Wall Street" protests by pasting all the requisite "Anonymous" videos on Facebook, are now posting about how much they mourn the loss of this man.

This is a guy who, although openly receiving pay of just one dollar a year, was paid in stocks. His estimated worth was almost nine billion dollars. Yet one of this man's very first decisions upon returning to the board of Apple was to terminate, "...all of Apple's long-standing corporate philanthropy programs within weeks after returning to Apple in 1997, citing the need to cut costs until profitability rebounded. But the programs have never been restored."

Again, I have nothing personal against the guy, and I'm not speaking ill of the dead. I just think it's funny.

chilaxesays...

@Ryjkyj

I agree it's funny.

However, it'd be impossible to count the ways in which organizations making a direct impact on human welfare have been made more efficient by or found unique uses for Apple products or the competitor products inspired by Apple products, so Apple's already one of the most humanitarian businesses in history.

Ryjkyjsays...

>> ^chilaxe:

@Ryjkyj
I agree it's funny.
However, it'd be impossible to count the ways in which organizations making a direct impact on human welfare have been made more efficient by or found unique uses for Apple products or the competitor products inspired by Apple products, so Apple's already one of the most humanitarian businesses in history.


I think I see your point, but I don't think that selling products that enable humanitarian causes makes you a humanitarian. Since there's money exchanging hands, it seems like all the credit should be given to the end-user. I would guess that Apple's products have enabled corporations like Halliburton and Enron, as well as people like Bernie Maddoff.

I'm not saying your wrong. Besides, my real problem lies with the fact that some people think they've genuinely earned an amount of money that's equivalent to the combined salaries of a small nation of living, breathing people.

rebuildersays...

I see this video and I'm struck by how much has changed in just my brief lifetime. We're now a society where the death of a tech company's CEO is noted more highly than that of, say, Mother Theresa's was.

I remember when having any skill with computers put a wall between you and your peers. We're not there any more.

Then I look at the dates and I'm no longer sure what's more perplexing - how important people such as Jobs have become, or how fast everything's happened. Ipod - 2001. What the hell?

Tymbrwulfsays...

>> ^Sarzy:

So sad. How is it the 21st century and we haven't cured cancer yet??


We have cures for a number of cancers. The problem with cancer is it's your own body growing at an uncontrollable rate. If there is nothing distinguishing your own cells from cancer cells, how do you know what you're actually "curing"?

We have a lot of drugs that can kill cancer but they also kill the rest of you.

Some cancers kill faster than others(melanoma), some are benign(moles).

BUT, we're working on it. I'm actually working on some research that may lead to something interesting in the next 10-15 years.

ChaosEnginesays...

>> ^rebuilder:

I see this video and I'm struck by how much has changed in just my brief lifetime. We're now a society where the death of a tech company's CEO is noted more highly than that of, say, Mother Theresa's was.


1. Mother Teresa wasn't that nice and
2. I don't know what society you live in, but I remember people going nuts over her death, to the point where someone I know made the facepalm-inducing suggestion that the end times were near because god was "calling his favourites home" (she and princess diana died within a week of each other).

Besides, I don't see anyone claiming Jobs was a saint....

ipfreelysays...

No one asked for your sympathy, just like no one asked for your opinion.

If you don't know who he is, why are you commenting?
Do you go to funerals and tell people "I don't know who he is but, he's probably a cunt!"

Well guess what... we all know you are a cunt.

Some people accomplish great things in life. You accomplished nothing.
Your death will be morned by no one.

I hope you die and to paraphrase Louie CK, I hope your mother has sex with someone with AIDS so she'll die. But before she dies, I hope you have sex with her, so you get AIDS and you'll die too.
>> ^westy:

It made me sad that he is dead which is pretty fucked up and shows you how shallow emotions can be, logically I don't care that he is dead not any more than any other person that has died.
We have this weird artificial image of him I don't even know who he is , he is probably as much a cunt as he is a nice guy.
Just because sum-one can be more easily attributed for there effect on the world should not mean we should necessarily celebrate them more or less than other people , or morn them more ore less than other people.

westysays...

"No one asked for your sympathy, just like no one asked for your opinion."

There is a comment box under the video I assume its for people to use, This sentence you wrote is pretty much useless , just because none asked for an opinion dose not mean sum-one should not make one and it does not mean that that opinoin is valid or not valid.

"If you don't know who he is, why are you commenting?
Do you go to funerals and tell people "I don't know who he is but, he's probably a cunt!" "


So you know Steve jobs personally ? I am at his funeral now ? 99.9% of people who know about Steve jobs don't know him in the slightest. Maby you should pay more atention when you read what people say I said "We have this weird artificial image of him I don't even know who he is , he is probably as much a cunt as he is a nice guy." I did not say he was a cunt I said he was "probably as much a nice guy as he was a cunt" The point is Its impossible to really know there are reports of him being caring and reports of him being an exploitative bastard.

"Some people accomplish great things in life. You accomplished nothing.
Your death will be morned by no one."


Who are you to say what is a grate thing ? you don't know me or what I have done , say I have done nothing in life , but I have an organ doner card that gives another person life. To me that would be a far grater achievement than making lots of money or a successfully buissiness leader.

The numbers of people that morn you or not often has no baring on how "good" a person you are or the achievements you have made in life. I'm sure there are many people that have died who were arguably far more significant for man kind than steve jobs who were moard by noone or by very few people.

"I hope you die and to paraphrase Louie CK, I hope your mother has sex with someone with AIDS so she'll die. But before she dies, I hope you have sex with her, so you get AIDS and you'll die too."

Now you are wishing death on sum-one you don't know I can see how that's constructive , Its also really lazy as an insult to quote a comedian for an insult in the way you have done. It would make sense if a comedian had said a specific thing that carries a point across well , but in this case your just being lazy.

In the end you have failed to comprehend my first comment and as a result talked utter nonsense. You should probably think about what other people write and try and see where they are coming from before you get angry and comment back.




>> ^ipfreely:

No one asked for your sympathy, just like no one asked for your opinion.
If you don't know who he is, why are you commenting?
Do you go to funerals and tell people "I don't know who he is but, he's probably a cunt!"
Well guess what... we all know you are a cunt.
Some people accomplish great things in life. You accomplished nothing.
Your death will be morned by no one.
I hope you die and to paraphrase Louie CK, I hope your mother has sex with someone with AIDS so she'll die. But before she dies, I hope you have sex with her, so you get AIDS and you'll die too.
>> ^westy:
It made me sad that he is dead which is pretty fucked up and shows you how shallow emotions can be, logically I don't care that he is dead not any more than any other person that has died.
We have this weird artificial image of him I don't even know who he is , he is probably as much a cunt as he is a nice guy.
Just because sum-one can be more easily attributed for there effect on the world should not mean we should necessarily celebrate them more or less than other people , or morn them more ore less than other people.


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