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60 Comments
volumptuoussays...*promote
siftbotsays...Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Wednesday, May 5th, 2010 1:38pm PDT - promote requested by original submitter volumptuous.
NordlichReitersays...And you wonder why cops serving search warrants get wasted by a person in a home with a scatter gun; because of shit like this.
Any more information on this? Is there a copy of the search warrant, I assume that is a matter of public record.
Lastly let me say it; fucking pigs.
Paybacksays...Well, I can understand shooting the one dog. Those things are terrifying. I would never allow one to be around my children. The potential loss of human life or limb is extreme. A friend of mine has one and every time I go over to visit I am overcome by fear of the hellish beast.
Don't see why they had to shoot the pit bull though.
blankfistsays...And you wonder why I despise paying taxes. Because I don't like this shit.
volumptuoussays...Here's some more info: http://tinyurl.com/2fb432b
Also, there's 40,000 of these raids every year in this country: http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=6476
petpeevedsays...Fuck. Fuck fuck fuck.
I was hoping to get through today without feeling like the human race should go extinct.
Goddamn. I'll try again tomorrow I guess.
NordlichReitersays...I fail to see how they endanger their own kids. By that account the fucking cops should be arrested for assault with deadly weapons.
I'm fucking sick of the goddamn government simply writing themselves out of blame.
They write themselves right out of the goddamn blame. Proof positive that the police are above the law.
Cops must be held responsible for their actions not just slap on the wrist or a administrative leave they need to be punished to the full extent of the law; which they so heinously use against every day citizens.
As I typed the comment, my fingers smashed the keys with every letter and every space.
This is the government that we the people, for the people, have created for ourselves. Let me ask you people, are you happy now?
blankfistsays...I really feel sick now.
volumptuoussays...I had to go take a walk around my neighborhood after watching this. Seething with rage.
"I doubt the tea partiers screaming about individual liberty will notice this. After all, it isn’t like the cops were going to raise their taxes or provide them with affordable healthcare coverage. They were just shooting his dogs in front of his family and then made up some bullshit excuse to try to take away the kid. No big deal." John Cole
Shakasays...FUCK THE POLICE
GeeSussFreeKsays...Search warrant? Full tactical gear in the apparent dead of the night and you give them less than 30 seconds to answer the door...then come in guns blazing with women and children in the house...for a drug search. I guess we truly did lose our liberties, the fight to get them back is soon.
Skeevesays...More like "FUCK THE SYSTEM".
This wouldn't have happened without the War on Drugs. Politicians made this happen.
While these cops are slime who need to be locked up for child endangerment, the police are rarely the ultimate cause of such stupidity.
For the most part people choose to become police officers to protect people; the War on Drugs, the militarization of police forces and the destruction of civil liberties (in exchange for more "security") has perverted policing. More and more people who wouldn't have been (mentally) fit for the job in years past are becoming cops. More and more of the police with good intentions are being converted into government thugs.
Something needs to change and that something is bigger than the police.
>> ^Shaka:
FUCK THE POLICE
volumptuoussays...^ ^ Politicians didn't tell these cops to break into someone's house and shoot dogs in front of a kid.
blankfistsays...^But politicians created the war on drugs and fully embolden the militarized police state with increased funding.
kronosposeidonsays...Jesus fucking christ. Sometimes I'm just left speechless.
Skeevesays...Ohh good one, you sure got me there!
They went in looking for marijuana. SWAT, armed to the teeth, broke into the home and shot the dogs in front of a kid because the guy had some marijuana. That has to be one of the stupidest things ever and none of it would have happened without your stupid War on Drugs - which is absolutely and incontrovertibly the result of politicians.
Did a politician directly tell them to shoot their dogs? No, but the politicians paved the way for things like this to happen and ensured that when they did it would be legal.
>> ^volumptuous:
^ ^ Politicians didn't tell these cops to break into someone's house and shoot dogs in front of a kid.
volumptuoussays...^ ^ Noone held a gun to these cops' heads and told them to do this. Just the same as noone told the guards at Guantanamo they'd be killed unless they tortured people. Nuremberg answered this question long ago.
If you are a cop who knows nothing about the constitution and the laws you are supposed to protect, you need to quit now.
Bush without a military couldn't invade Iraq. Pol Pot without the Khmer Rouge would've just been some lone, powerless angry dude. The judge in Missouri couldn't have his way unless there are thugs with badges willing to commit these types of incidents.
reiwansays...heres a news article. http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/2010/feb/23/
family-questions-swat-drug-search-that-led-to/
Also, playing devils advocate here, just because there wasnt any drugs there at the time, doesnt mean that there never was any. Its possible he could have been a dealer, and just didnt have any. He could have been tipped off and moved it somewhere else... Just sayin.
Skeevesays...^
Quit covering for the government.
No one needed to hold a gun to their heads because what they did was made legal and acceptable by the politicians.
Police enforce the laws of the state (as in "nation") that they work for, they have no say in the making of those laws (beyond voting). A police officer isn't a police officer very long if he refuses to enforce those laws. Are these cops scum for doing what they did? Yes, but what they are doing is enforcing American laws.
The government started the War on Drugs. The police are the soldiers in that war and will continue to do things like this until the government puts an end to it through law.
Quit covering for the politicians responsible by putting all the blame on the police. The government started this, it is the government who perpetuates it and it is only the government who can put a stop to it. (Which should be massive incentive to vote, run for office, or otherwise get involved in government: so that you can put a stop to shit like this).
volumptuoussays..."Could have been" is not a very good justification for militarized police terrorizing citizens.
volumptuoussays...Skeeeve: If you think I'm "covering for the government" you don't know me very well.
Shit like this starts with the people directly involved. YES, I want an end to the phony WOD immediately, which should've been known not only by the fact that I sifted this video, but also created the sensational headline.
I am a card-carrying medical marijuana "patient" in Los Angeles. I directly identify with the people terrorized by this horrible event caused by local police and judges.
I will first condemn the police officers who raided this poor guys house and shot his dogs in front of his fucking kids, and then go after politicians who are involved in making this type of evil, beyond-Orwellian shit be possible.
Just because Lyndie England was just some country dumbass following orders, doesn't excuse her taking thumbs-up pictures with piles of tortured, innocent civilians.
Again, if politicians didn't have thugs with badges, these types of events could never happen. This is why I believe in criminal punishment for police officers.
reiwansays...>> ^volumptuous:
"Could have been" is not a very good justification for militarized police terrorizing citizens.
They go off of the information that they have, and their level of force they use is indicative of that. Hind sight is always 20/20. Drug dealers have lots of drugs. Drug dealers also have weapons. Nobody would be saying anything if this ended up being the largest drug bust in Columbia this year.
dannym3141says...>> ^reiwan:
>> ^volumptuous:
"Could have been" is not a very good justification for militarized police terrorizing citizens.
They go off of the information that they have, and their level of force they use is indicative of that. Hind sight is always 20/20. Drug dealers have lots of drugs. Drug dealers also have weapons. Nobody would be saying anything if this ended up being the largest drug bust in Columbia this year.
You could apply this argument to ANYTHING.
Yes, i pulled the guy over because one of his tires was bald. Yes i shot him when he put his hand in his pocket - he could have had a grenade in there. No one would be saying anything if he'd turned out to be an undiscovered serial killer.
If i should have a dog, is his life REALLY forfeit if for any reason whatsoever authorities should suspect that i am a drug dealer? They break my door down and as a precaution kill something... REALLY?
How about using your argument back on you:
If the police broke in and the dog killed a policeman, nobody would be saying anything if the policeman had been a burglar.
dedsticksays...Blah, blah, blah! What the fuck are we gonna do about this shit and when. That is the only topic I'm interested in. And the sad thing is - is that I don't have any good suggestions.
NordlichReitersays...>> ^reiwan:
>> ^volumptuous:
"Could have been" is not a very good justification for militarized police terrorizing citizens.
They go off of the information that they have, and their level of force they use is indicative of that. Hind sight is always 20/20. Drug dealers have lots of drugs. Drug dealers also have weapons. Nobody would be saying anything if this ended up being the largest drug bust in Columbia this year.
Hind sight is twenty twenty, especially when the state has to cover the cost of livestock.
You're taxes hard at work, go towards paying for their armory, and the cost of life that is directly or indirectly caused by the strong arm of the bureaucracy.
I want to see the search warrant; I bet you it isn't even correct.
westysays...they could have easily stake dout the house for 3 or so days , and waited for the guy to be on his own .
but then if they did that thwy wudent get a chance to use there swat training in run around firing pew pew pew.
MrFisksays...This is what happens when you vote Republican.
chilaxesays...For god's sake, legalize marijuana already.
reiwansays...>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^reiwan:
>> ^volumptuous:
"Could have been" is not a very good justification for militarized police terrorizing citizens.
They go off of the information that they have, and their level of force they use is indicative of that. Hind sight is always 20/20. Drug dealers have lots of drugs. Drug dealers also have weapons. Nobody would be saying anything if this ended up being the largest drug bust in Columbia this year.
You could apply this argument to ANYTHING.
Yes, i pulled the guy over because one of his tires was bald. Yes i shot him when he put his hand in his pocket - he could have had a grenade in there. No one would be saying anything if he'd turned out to be an undiscovered serial killer.
If i should have a dog, is his life REALLY forfeit if for any reason whatsoever authorities should suspect that i am a drug dealer? They break my door down and as a precaution kill something... REALLY?
How about using your argument back on you:
If the police broke in and the dog killed a policeman, nobody would be saying anything if the policeman had been a burglar.
Do most people who have bald tires have weapons or are associated with having weapons? Your argument is illogical. As is your second one. There is a certain threat when dealing with people who choose to participate in illegal activities, anything from drug dealing to you name it. When you do this, you're forcing "the man" to come to the situation at a certain level.
I'm not saying what happened was right or wrong. I'm mainly trying to make the point that everyone is basing their opinion on a short video and a blurb of text about what happened. There is a lot more to the situation that you don't know than just those two things. And instead of being an armchair critic, why dont you try to think about the situation as a whole, rather than whats placed in front of you.
Yogisays...I've been putting off watching this for awhile now...after reading the comments I think I got the jist. Still not gonna watch it though, I'm not into doggy snuff films.
NetRunnersays...There's not much more I can add to what John Cole said:
Not much I can add other than I'd be out for blood if anyone shot either of my dogs too.
I dunno what's broken in America that people feel so resigned about this kind of thing.
I guess it's that whole individualism thing -- it didn't happen to me, just some other poor dumb fuck, why should I care about it? Why should I stick my neck out, he was using illegal drugs! Plus, as we know from Arizona, it's completely okay to violate people's rights if you think they might be doing something illegal, like being here without the right paperwork.
Oh, and Joe Lieberman is talking about stripping citizenship from people who the government thinks might be associated with a terrorist group...
I'm sure this will all be made better when the Republicans take control of congress, because we all know they're serious limited government guys, right?
siftbotsays...Tags for this video have been changed from 'swat, murder, dogs, marijuana, assholes' to 'police, swat, houseclearing, murder, dogs, marijuana, assholes' - edited by calvados
GreatBirdsays...Fucking piece of shit assholes!! This is getting out of control.
captmorganosays...Why is it ok for the SWAT to bust through your door and shoot your crated dog? Because if I were to shoot a K9 unit, its an automatic felony. So theoretically if homeowner's dog was specially trained K9, the cops could be libel. And additionally, there would have to be a "full police funeral".
From Wikipedia:
In many jurisdictions the intentional injuring or killing of a police dog is a felony,[1] subjecting the perpetrator to harsher penalties than those in the statutes embodied in local animal cruelty laws,[2] just as an assault on a human police officer is often a more serious offense than the same assault on a non-officer. A growing number of law-enforcement organizations outfit dogs with ballistic vests,[3][4] and some even go so far as to make the dogs sworn officers, with their own police badges and IDs.[1][5][6][7] Furthermore, a police dog killed in the line of duty is often given a full police funeral.[7][8][9]
vlsdsays...they chose the middle of the night for the same reason they shot the dogs: intimidation. the main purpose of raids like this is to instill fear rather than to fight any sort of crime. in a true police state the role of "law-enforcement" is that of a scarecrow, while the people police themselves out of abject fear. paradoxically, this video helps their case more than we might think, by spreading the idea that we are powerless when confronted with situations such as this.
vaporlocksays...Standard operating procedure... WTF
dannym3141says...>> ^reiwan:
>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^reiwan:
>> ^volumptuous:
"Could have been" is not a very good justification for militarized police terrorizing citizens.
They go off of the information that they have, and their level of force they use is indicative of that. Hind sight is always 20/20. Drug dealers have lots of drugs. Drug dealers also have weapons. Nobody would be saying anything if this ended up being the largest drug bust in Columbia this year.
You could apply this argument to ANYTHING.
Yes, i pulled the guy over because one of his tires was bald. Yes i shot him when he put his hand in his pocket - he could have had a grenade in there. No one would be saying anything if he'd turned out to be an undiscovered serial killer.
If i should have a dog, is his life REALLY forfeit if for any reason whatsoever authorities should suspect that i am a drug dealer? They break my door down and as a precaution kill something... REALLY?
How about using your argument back on you:
If the police broke in and the dog killed a policeman, nobody would be saying anything if the policeman had been a burglar.
Do most people who have bald tires have weapons or are associated with having weapons? Your argument is illogical. As is your second one. There is a certain threat when dealing with people who choose to participate in illegal activities, anything from drug dealing to you name it. When you do this, you're forcing "the man" to come to the situation at a certain level.
I'm not saying what happened was right or wrong. I'm mainly trying to make the point that everyone is basing their opinion on a short video and a blurb of text about what happened. There is a lot more to the situation that you don't know than just those two things. And instead of being an armchair critic, why dont you try to think about the situation as a whole, rather than whats placed in front of you.
The argument IS MEANT to be illogical because i believe YOUR argument to be illogical. I'm glad you've seen the point, though i'm not sure you realised it was the point.
The second argument isn't illogical.
And one more time, your argument straight back at you - we are BOTH armchair critics in this situation. You're an armchair critic RE: the video, you're an armchair critic RE: me. Neither of us know the whole story, we are left with our gut reactions.
If you believe that authorities should be allowed to kill or destroy things we own based on a hunch, a tip, or "intelligence" - see weapons of mass destruction - all of which as we can see can turn out to be wrong, more fool you.
I would rather a hundred drug dealers get away than one incident like this occur. In fact, i'd rather let people use the drugs they want to use, allow them to live their lives as they see fit. We can deal with the crimes as they occur, not invent new crimes (drug taking) to prevent the possibility of further ones (theft to fund drug taking). That's a thought crime.
gwiz665says...This is what happens when "what is right" and "what is the law" collides. They should obviously be held personally resonsible for doing what's wrong. Standard Operating Procedure is not a bible - just do what's right.
joel_ebsays...that makes me fucking angry.
Mcboinkenssays...[redacted]
Hive13says...While I imagine there is more to this story that a misdemeanor marijuana charge, it is still pretty fucking sad, especially to do this in front of his kid.
That being said, I know several cops that have been badly injured serving warrants to people that owned Pit Bulls. They can be, but rarely are, mean, viscous killers. Seems like this cops didn't take a few extra moments to figure out which type of personality this dog had.
newtboysays...>> ^dedstick:
Blah, blah, blah! What the fuck are we gonna do about this shit and when. That is the only topic I'm interested in. And the sad thing is - is that I don't have any good suggestions.
Really? How's this suggestion...Boycott Missouri or at least Columbia Missouri until the officers involved are publicly convicted of at least cruelty to animals, child endangerment, excessive force, and illegal discharge of a firearm and loose their jobs without pension or other benefits. Send an email/letter to the Columbia, Missouri chamber of commerce telling them that's your plan, then follow through.
admin@columbiamochamber.com
Columbia Chamber of Commerce
(573) 874-1132
300 South Providence Road
Post Office Box 1016
Columbia, Missouri 65205-1016
Cancel any travel plans you might have had to visit Missouri. If you find yourself on a website of a company based in Missouri, find a different company to purchase from and write the company to tell them why you are not going to do business with them. Guaranteed, if this starts hurting their economy, they'll fix the problem and ensure it doesn't happen again, quickly. That goes for any other state that protects it's agents when they commit violent crimes against citizens or their property instead of prosecuting them.
It seems like a no brainer to me. Hit them where it hurts, the wallet. I don't think Missouri is doing so well economically that they can afford to stop doing business with animal and/or child lovers and rational non-violent citizens nation wide for long. Evil may thrive when good people do nothing to disuade it.
That's my plan anyway...
I keep wondering why no one seems to bring up the point that these officers were in full armor, and so there was no danger of injury from either dog. If the pit bull was caged as reported, there was no danger (other than to their ear drums) and a corgie isn't dangerous to a naked man, much less someone in full kevlar, knife proof armor head to toe. There is no reasonable excuse they can offer for shooting the corgie.
And to answer riewan's last comment, most people of color (black, Mexican, Arab, etc.) with or without bald tires are (unfairly) associated with weapons by many people, especially those in law enforcement. There are certain undisputed facts here, like the shooting of the corgie, that can't be reasonably defended under any circumstances.
shagen454says...There is nothing worse in the world than a red state, inbred (or not), ignorant, machine gun toting, redneck hick of a cop.
ShakyJakesays...That's 10 seconds from them first knocking, to them knocking the door down and going in. Why even pretend to be waiting for someone to answer if you're not going to give them the chance, anyway?
Zyrxilsays...>> ^shagen454:
There is nothing worse in the world than a red state, inbred (or not), ignorant, machine gun toting, redneck hick of a cop.
You're dead wrong if you think this only happens in red states. SWAT teams do this everywhere, and they turn out just as badly.
http://www.cato.org/raidmap/
shagen454says...>> ^Zyrxil:
>>^shagen454:
There is nothing worse in the world than a red state, inbred (or not), ignorant, machine gun toting, redneck hick of a cop.
You're dead wrong if you think this only happens in red states. SWAT teams do this everywhere, and they turn out just as badly.
http://www.cato.org/raidmap/
Nah, I never said I didn't believe that it didn't happen elsewhere just said it's worse when a brainwashed honky machine gun toting imbecile is the perpetrator.
sewy7dsays...I live in columbia and there is a lot of buzz around town about this now that the video has come out. I work with a guy that used to know the "drug dealer" in the video years ago. Apparently he used to be a pretty big dealer and had some other sketchy things going on but has since totally cleaned up (at least relatively i suppose). These cops just busted in on an ex-dealer turned family man that happens to be a casual smoker. They got the tip from an "anonymous" source; which probably means someone the guy used to deal to got arrested for something and sold him out just to get a break.
kageninsays...>> ^Hive13:
While I imagine there is more to this story that a misdemeanor marijuana charge, it is still pretty fucking sad, especially to do this in front of his kid.
That being said, I know several cops that have been badly injured serving warrants to people that owned Pit Bulls. They can be, but rarely are, mean, viscous killers. Seems like this cops didn't take a few extra moments to figure out which type of personality this dog had.
It really shouldn't have mattered what kind of personality the dog had.
IT WAS IN A FUCKING CAGE.
Seriously. How ball-less does someone have to be to shoot a caged dog?
Farhad2000says...War on Drugs should be renamed War on Weed.
I hardly ever see raids on high class drugs like cocaine or heroine. Do those guys just pay the police off?
Seems so silly to go after the menace of the WWEEEEEEEEEEEEEDSSSS
deathcowsays...These cops need to be on trial.
joedirtsays...Check this out...
May 6, 2010
But, back when the incident initially happened...
February 23, 2010
And now the rest of the story...
Some friend of his probably got arrested and given a deal for being informant (even if the information was made up). The police assumed guilt based upon prior history.
On the dog issue, doesn't SWAT wear like bulletproof vest and heavy duty tactical outfits? Certainly the lead person could have some way of handling a dog and shoot it after it attacks someone. You are attacking someones private property so in my opinion the dog has more business being there. Also, I have a feeling the dog was in his crate, but not locked in. ie. the dog sleeps in his crate and was in his crate but came out and was barking at officers and they shot it. I doubt the shot a dog just to stop it from barking.
Now explain to me what kind of asshole shoots a corgi in the leg?? So maybe they were just looking for animals to execute.
joedirtsays...Also, just leave this here:
http://www.gocolumbiamo.com/Police/Contact_Us/index.php
http://www.gocolumbiamo.com/Council/Meet_The_Council/mayor.php
http://www.gocolumbiamo.com/Council/City_Manager/index.php
jwraysays...When fascist sons of bitches act like that they deserve to encounter resistance.
Posession of Marajuana is a victimless crime. Victimless crimes are virtually identical with the class of crimes that prosecuted without oppressive invasion of privacy. A man is answerable to society only for acts that affect other people.
jwraysays...>> ^reiwan:
>> ^volumptuous:
"Could have been" is not a very good justification for militarized police terrorizing citizens.
They go off of the information that they have, and their level of force they use is indicative of that. Hind sight is always 20/20. Drug dealers have lots of drugs. Drug dealers also have weapons. Nobody would be saying anything if this ended up being the largest drug bust in Columbia this year.
If some bogus tip that was extracted under duress (i.e. plea bargain) can lead to this kind of raid, then we're still doing the same shit as the Salem witch trails.
honkeytonk73says...Pharmaceutical corporations don't like the competition... thus marijuana is illegal. They can't hold a patent on it.
NordlichReitersays...>> ^jwray:
>> ^reiwan:
>> ^volumptuous:
"Could have been" is not a very good justification for militarized police terrorizing citizens.
They go off of the information that they have, and their level of force they use is indicative of that. Hind sight is always 20/20. Drug dealers have lots of drugs. Drug dealers also have weapons. Nobody would be saying anything if this ended up being the largest drug bust in Columbia this year.
If some bogus tip that was extracted under duress (i.e. plea bargain) can lead to this kind of raid, then we're still doing the same shit as the Salem witch trails.
You mean the red scare, or the Red Scare 2001?
deathcowsays...some interesting fox news coverage
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4186793/drug-bust-gone-awry?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a4:g4:r4:c0.000000:b0:z5
*doublepromote
siftbotsays...Double-Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Wednesday, May 5th, 2010 4:39pm PDT - doublepromote requested by deathcow.
rougysays...I wish those rah-rah fucks would bust into the house of a Sons of Silence member, or maybe a Bandito, or any other motorcycle gang prick. Then they could be halfway justified with the overkill.
But those SWAT guys, they just love the shit.
Not all of them, but a lot of them want nothing more than to get into some shit, kill something or someone, and have the tale to tell to their buddies later on.
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