How one black man defeated the KKK with humor and grace

Former Ku Klux Klan leader Johnny Lee Clary on moving from hate to tolerance. I'm just glad the reverend in question wasn't killed.
Sniper007says...

It is written: "All things work together for good, to them who love God, to them who are called according to His purpose."

The reverend knew this. Johny Lee Cary did not.

There is some great stuff written down for our benefit in a certain Book, if we'd just take the time to honestly study it in it's proper historical context. Just ask the reverend.

demon_ixsays...

Wikipedia FTW:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wade_Watts

As the state leader of the NAACP, Watts was a target of the Ku Klux Klan and in 1979 had the opportunity to debate the Grand Dragon of the Oklahoma KKK, Johnny Lee Clary, on an Oklahoma City radio station. Clary refused to shake Watts hand before the broadcast, but Watts shook his hand any way and introduced himself by telling Clary that Jesus loved him. When they were leaving the radio station Watts introduced Clary to his wife and the niece that they were raising and asked Clary how he could hate the little girl, causing Clary to realize at the time that he could not. Watts reminded Clary whenever they spoke that God loved him, even responding to a threatening phone call from Clary, in which he told Watts that the he and other Klansmen were coming for him, to which Watts responded by telling Clary that it was unnecessary because Watts would meet Clary and buy him dinner. When Clary renounced the KKK, he and Watts became close friends.

xxovercastxxsays...

>> ^JiggaJonson:
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why is this man not in prison after admitted: arson, burning a cross with intent to intimidate, and phone harassment? Maybe the reverend never made a police report? But you cant get away with arson, im sure the fire marshal would complain on that one.


Statute of limitations? None of those are likely more than misdemeanors (arson varies depending on the amount of damage done and whether or not there were deaths or injuries). He'd probably get no more than some jail time and probation.

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EndAllsays...

>> ^JiggaJonson:
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and why is this man not in prison after admitted: arson, burning a cross with intent to intimidate, and phone harassment? Maybe the reverend never made a police report? But you cant get away with arson, im sure the fire marshal would complain on that one


yeesh, talk about missing the point

dougb22says...

great stories. very funny, and hard to imagine that era of intolerance. Mr Watts understood how ignorant it all was and could and would not lend legitimacy to it. It would be so nice if our leaders could conduct themselves this way.

EndAllsays...

>> ^wagthedog1:
I was kind of waiting for the telling of this guys moment of reform, but it never arrived. Is he still a practicing KKK member or not?
Read the rest of the interview transcript and see for yourself. There is also a Rev Wade Watts tribute on Johnny's website.


From the tribute page:

"On another occasion, he went into a cafe in Ada, Oklahoma with his friend, Oklahoma State Senator Gene Stipe, where he was stopped at the door by the waitress. She proceeded to tell them they did not serve Negroes there! Wade told the woman, "Ma'am, I don't eat Negroes anyway, just give me some ham and some eggs!""

:} Sounded like a real genuine, loving, funny guy.

spoco2says...

This whole interview (from the great, sadly now ended, interview show 'Enough Rope') was brilliant, and showed how a person could have a complete turnaround and become a force for good in the world after doing so much wrong.

Shpydirsays...

This is just fascinating. I'm an atheist so I'm not going to spout bible verses here, but that Wade Watts, talk about having the courage of his convictions. Fighting blind hate with love.

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