VideoSift v3.3

Welcome to VideoSift version 3.3. It's been a long time since our last major upgrade and in this time we have been considering lots of your great suggestions and some ideas of our own to present an upgrade that offers serious improvements to the individual and community user experience. There are so many new things it'll be hard to spit them all out in one breath, so I'll list them below in no particular order.

[More updates inside]

Awards

Fewer Stars
The system by which we've always awarded members Star Points has changed. Now, when a member fixes a Dead Pool video or has a comment applauded (15 votes), a Star Point is no longer awarded. Instead, they will be given 1 Power Point for their contribution. Star Points are very valuable and should not be subject to inflation as they've been for a long time. (For *quality Sift Talk posts, the author will still receive 1 Star Point.)


#1 Video Medal

While reaching the Top 15 is a great achievement, a much more difficult task is to reach the highly sought after #1 position of all Top New Videos. Once a video achieves #1 status, it will have the #1 medal pinned to it's sleeve.



Top 15 Medal

Whenever a video enters the Top 15 sidebar listing (for the main site, not channels), it will from that point on carry beside it an attractive medal to denote this achievement. (Thanks to pyrex for this medal.)



Statistics and Achievements
There is now a whole slew of new methods by which members will be recognized and encouraged for various statistic-based achievements. (This is primarily based on Farhad's Sift Crack suggestion.) Whenever an achievement is made, that quality member will receive a Profile Message (PM) from SiftBot with a note of congratulations. (These messages can be turned off in account filter settings.) Also, for several types of achievement, members are awarded a variable number of Power Points:
  • Video Hits Top 15: 1 Power Point
  • Video Hits #1: 2 Power Points
  • Video enters a members personal Top 5 (based on votes): 1 Power Point
  • Comment gets applauded with 15 votes: 1 Power Point
  • Rank Improves (once in the last day): in top 10 users = 3 Power Points; top 11-25 users = 2 Power Points; top 26-100 users = 1 Power Point
  • Vote Milestone: When a member achieves another 1000 votes received, 1 Power Point
  • New Star Level Achieved: 2 Power Points for Bronze Crown, 1 Power Point otherwise
  • Dead Pool Fix: 1 Power Point
A great part of this new Awards system is the Awards Listing that displays all the Power Points that have been awarded recently, including the recipient and the reason for the award.


Daily Digest
On a daily basis SiftBot will start posting to his blog a rundown of big achievements of the day. This will include:
  • Members who got a video into their personal top 5
  • Who surpassed who the member rankings
  • Users who have earned a new Star Level
  • Members who reached a new vote milestone
  • All videos that hit the top 15 or #1 in that day
  • Top comments of the day
  • Videos that had the most votes cast for them in the day



Tweaks and Fixes
  • The rotating panel at the top of the sidebar can now be stepped through with a "next panel" link. Looking for a specific panel? Click the link until it appears.
  • SiftBot comment counts will no longer have any affect on the total vote count displayed for a post. This means you will no longer be mislead into thinking there's more of a discussion than there really is.
  • We've had lots of reports that the Top New Videos sidebar has seemed a bit stagnant lately, so we've shortened the lifetime down from 4 days to 3 days from submission.
  • Sift Talk channel invocations have been fixed so multiple channels can now properly be invoked.
  • No more accidental video down votes. When casting a down vote you'll first be asked if you're sure you want to proceed.
  • When your queue is full you can now validate your embed on the submission "Full Queue" page.
  • Your email preferences will now be sticky on the video/talk/blog post submission form.
  • If your NSFW filter is on, filtered videos will now have a generic thumbnail in case the actual video thumbnail itself is not safe for viewing.
  • You will now receive email notifications when a new video is added to a playlist that you have favorited.
  • The *sticky invocation now costs 1 Power Point.
  • update: hover your mouse of the votes on a published video to see the total number of unique member views
  • update: there is now a filter for long videos and another for profile comment emails in your account filter preferences



Abilities
Transferring Dupe Votes
The long sought after ability to transfer votes from a duplicate video to the original is now possible. A new *dupeof invocation is available. It transfers all unique votes from the dupe to the original then kills the dupe. It's a unique invocation and must be used like so:
*dupeof=http://videosift.com/video/link-to-the-original-video
This invocation is only available for Bronze Crown Bronze Diamond (250) members because it results in such a powerful, permanent change to the system. It can be invoked on a video with any status (discarded, dead, etc.) that is a true duplicate of another video. However, a member may not invoke *dupeof on duplicates of their own submissions.

YouTube Avatars
Bronze Crown members can now use a YouTube video as an alternate comment avatar. If specified by a Crown member, their usual comment avatar will have a border around it to signify that it can be clicked into a YouTube video.

Comment Embeds
Video embeds are now permitted in comments.



Video Hosts
Fora.tv and vSocial have been removed from the list of approved video hosts. The following have been added to the approved list:
  • NBC
  • MTV Music
  • Hulu
  • Comedy Central
  • Game Trailers
  • Veoh



New Features
Header Ribbon
A new tiny ribbon has been added to the very top of the page to display mini logos to other sites in the Sift Partners network.

More Member Profile Stats
Added to the member profile are a Top Comments sidebar panel and, in the Statistics sidebar panel, the number of Top 15 videos and #1 videos stats.

Top Users by Channel
The Top Users sidebars displayed in a channel now display only the top users for that specific channel.

Top New Discussions
A new major tab has been added labeled "Discussions". This tab displays a listing of the highest rated comments submitted in the past few hours.

Sift Lounge
A new area for real-time chatting among members called Sift Lounge is available to Gold-100 members and above. If you're eligible to participate in the lounge, you'll see a link in the right side of the new ribbon bar at the very top of the page.

Update: Charter members are now able to participate in Sift Lounge.



Group Playlists
This is the grand-daddy of all the new features for v3.3. The idea was originally suggested by djsunkid at the Vancouver Sift Up as an alternative to the now extinct Collectives of old. This new feature is called Group Playlists and allows multiple users to collaborate over areas of similar interest. Here's an overview:
  • A playlist owner can invite other users to join as group members
  • Any playlist with one or more members is a Group Playlist
  • Users can be invited to private playlists. This means you can have playlists only visible to a select few.
  • The playlist owner can decide for each of their group members what powers they have over the playlist. The available abilities are: add videos, remove videos, delete playlist comments.


Group Playlist Competition
There is also a fun competitive side to Group Playlists. All public group playlists are ranked against one another based on the sum of votes received since each video was added to the playlist. The new default view for the "Playlists" tab is now the listing of all Group Playlists in order by best rank.

Update:
As noted above, by popular demand, the *dupeof invocation is now available to Diamond-250 members and up. Please keep in mind this is an extremely sensitive power that cannot be undone, so use it only in cases where you're absolutely certain it should be invoked.
lucky760 says...

Thanks, dag. I think it was well worth it. This is one heck of an upgrade.

Everyone please keep in mind everything's not thoroughly tested so you may encounter bugs. If anything seems broken, please report here.

maatc says...

This is all kinds of awesome! Thanks so much!

Love the awards system. I had a thought the other day that it might be a good idea to award stars based on the amount of total votes for a clip and not only for escaping the queue. That way a clip with 234 votes has a higher value in the member stats than one with 11 votes. Seems like the new system is going in this direction.

burdturgler says...

edit ...
I really wish that dupeof command was available to lower ranked members.
I knocked out at least 30 dupes just in the last week.
The sooner the dupe gets merged the better imo, since comments do not get merged.

It seems really out of whack to me that I needed 50 star points to discard a dupe outright but now I need 1000 star points to correct it by merging it.

Deano says...

Looks like lots of positive changes there. Love the digest idea, that sort of thing has been in the back of my mind for ages.
HOWEVER - wtf is the header ribbon all about? It looks hideous and takes up valuable space. On Firefox it looks like this for me;

http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/18048/ribbon_firefox.jpg

In IE it looks better but still not the most aesthetically pleasing imagery;

http://dl-client.getdropbox.com/u/18048/ribbon_IE.jpg


I don't like it. Sorry. There are surely better ways of promoting the other sites.

[edit] the Firefox view now looks like IE, maybe I needed to do a refresh. Still not the prettiest thing imo.

Sarzy says...

I demand that you give that video avatar thing to diamonds instead of just crowns! Lucky has one, and he doesn't have a crown! Unfair! Nah, just kidding. I guess I have something to work towards now.

Awesome upgrades, by the way. Stellar work as usual, guys.

NetRunner says...

Awesome features, though I kinda wish we still got star points for 15 upvotes on a comment. I doubt people really need the reward to make them contribute quality comments, but it's nice to give them a star point for it since they are contributing to the content of the site.

I also second the notion that the dupeof invocation should be at a lower level -- we only have 3 bronze crowns on the site right now, by my count.

I look forward to seeing the siftbot blog posts, those will be interesting.

Stingray says...

*bug: I'm using Firefox 3.0.3 and when I go to upvote a video, it doesn't automatically refresh the page as it used to with the AJAX (i.e., showing the new vote count and removing the up/down vote arrows).

Stingray says...

It seems like the vote refresh works for me sometimes. I have voted five videos up since the 3.3 upgrade, and two times it worked as it should, but for the other three it said "Please wait..." in the corner for a brief moment, and then went away.

In all cases, my upvotes were registered with the server, as when I clicked the arrow again, siftbot told me I could not vote twice, and upon hitting F5, it then showed correctly.

Eklek says...

Lucky, your incremental hacking into the VS mainframe is much appreciated:)
Let the new games begin!

The FAQ link in SiftTalk (!) displays a weird "F", it looks like a capital G in the Old Greek alphabet..

Krupo says...

Great upgrade. A few comments

1. My only real negative - the Sift Partners line looks awful right now.
2. http://www.videosift.com/starpower needs to be updated with the *-dupeof command, along with the "Possible *Invocations" text.
3. Rank improvements - is that for a single step in rank? That makes sense. For a moment I thought it was for ENTERING the rank brackets, which would've been insane (b/c I'm at 25 right now, so hopping between 25/26 would quickly get silly).

Krupo says...

BTW, I didn't realize that only goldies can comment vote - really? Wow.

>> ^gwiz665:
With the much fewer star points, I think it would be better to put dupeof in the 250+ group. It's not that much more powerful than discard anyway?


- I think it already is in the 250+ group, no? (see above request to update invocations info)

Also, I'm also getting the vote refresh issues too.

MarineGunrock says...

I don't like that the discussions tab shows multiple comments on the same thread. It's just disorganized and cluttered, if you ask me.

+1 for the lower rank *dupeof command. That's a lot of work for only three people. At least make it 500 diamond - or maybe require a "seconding" from another diamond. "I'd like to see that implemented in conjunction with bronze diamonds having the ability.

And I think the rules need to be specific - it can only be called on a video that exactly the same, right? Not just a video that has a different sound track...

Sarzy says...

Oh, actually I do have a suggestion. Why isn't Funny or Die on the approved hosts list? Lots of good stuff coming from there, and it's not region blocked like most of the new approved hosts seem to be.

mintbbb says...

I do love star points, I'd rather have more of those. Power points are nice too.. But am I special, or is this a bug: these are the messages I have gotten just today:

Congratulations on reaching new heights on VideoSift. You have earned yourself 478 stars, earning you status of Bronze Diamond member. You have been awarded 1 Power Point for achieving this level. Thanks for all your contributions.

Congratulations on reaching new heights on VideoSift. You have earned yourself 477 stars, earning you status of Bronze Diamond member. You have been awarded 1 Power Point for achieving this level. Thanks for all your contributions.

Congratulations on reaching new heights on VideoSift. You have earned yourself 476 stars, earning you status of Bronze Diamond member. You have been awarded 1 Power Point for achieving this level. Thanks for all your contributions.

I'm getting a power point for each video that sifts..??? Please tell me I am special! =)

burdturgler says...

I think it's giving you them retroactively for previous achievements
in other words for hitting bronze, silver etc ... and it just needs the sifted video or whatever to trigger the event.
(but you're still special)

Ornthoron says...

>> ^Stingray:
It seems like the vote refresh works for me sometimes. I have voted five videos up since the 3.3 upgrade, and two times it worked as it should, but for the other three it said "Please wait..." in the corner for a brief moment, and then went away.
In all cases, my upvotes were registered with the server, as when I clicked the arrow again, siftbot told me I could not vote twice, and upon hitting F5, it then showed correctly.


Same issues for me, in Opera 9.62. It occasionally works correctly, though.

burdturgler says...

>> ^Abducted:
Why is the sift lounge so elitist?


I was trying to hold off ranting because I don't want to seem ungrateful, but I have to agree with that also. It's one thing to motivate people with powers and abilities etc but this site is all about the community. Letting members chat together should naturally be for every member.

And since I started the rant ... I am going to apologize in advance for being a big whiny bitch here. I'm sorry.
But it's really grinding my gears that I am suddenly not qualified to handle dupes.

I've always seen dupes as a real problem here and it was a big motivation in my rushing to gold, so I could help get rid of them.
In the last 11 days (ie. since I got gold) I have diligently carried my mop and bucket and scrubbed at least 44 dupes off of the sift.

I took it seriously, and always made sure they were identical. It's aggravating that I'm not good enough now when I've been cleaning this place up left and right.

Dupes still need to be dealt with as soon as possible. If I nailed 44 in 11 days myself, how are the crowns supposed to deal with it all? It's great the votes transfer, but with comments getting left behind, playlist and channel assignments not merging, I think we need to have more people on the job here.

ugh! Sorry! I love you all, great upgrade and awesome new features and I appreciate so much all of the hard work! But this is really getting to me for some reason.

Krupo says...

Wait, what the hell happened? How did this get discarded?

Hello?

Also, congrats lucky, my negative has been fixed - the "Sift Partners" bar now looks good! Also, the preponderance of power points seems to have gummed up the queue with a metric SiftTon of videos.

dag says...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Woah ... mind the discard there partner. Let me address the elitist issue.

The Sift Lounge is actually kind of intensive on the system - it does a lot of DB calls to pump out the chat messages to each participant. We're not sure what the impact is going to be on the performance. We wanted to give a small subsection of the Sift access first and see how we go.

As for the dupeof invocation - it's a big messy transaction that has the potential to wreak a lot of havoc. We would like to extend it to diamonds but to tell the truth - as a community, in the past, we've voted up people to that level who probably would use it to break the Sift. Sad but true.

spoco2 says...

ditto on the arrows not working properly. Firefox 3.0.3 here and I've been having those pesky voting arrows just hangin' around, staring at me blankly after I press them.

Oh, sure, then they get all uppity if I try to vote again, but you wouldn't know it from looking at them.

Shifty little bastards.

swampgirl says...

It's kind of like the teacher's lounge was in school. They always had their own (clean) bathroom, drink machine and microwave.

I'm glad I don't have the dupe power though. I say we should just give all the moderating powers to Kronos and watch him crumble from all the work

spoco2 says...

I'm a bit iffy on the whole powerpoint thing.

What does it actually do for ME, a lowly gold star member? I can't use it to promote or quality anything. So if you're removing these abilities to get star points but handing out power points that are pretty much useless unless you have the star points anyway, isn't this just further helping the 'videosift elite' rather than those that are clawing their little ways up the chain?

arvana says...

Awesome work Lucky — you rock the house!

A few buglets I've noticed so far:

  • I have the same issue with the voting AJAX (Firefox 3.03 on Ubuntu 8.10)
  • There are no vids listed under the Playlists tab (which by default seems to be Group Playlists) even though there already are some group playlists.
  • When inviting people to a group playlist, some of the pageviews showed everybody's checkboxes, rather than the usual "Invited, still waiting for response" message for those who hadn't accepted the invite yet.
I'm already enjoying all the great new features I've tried so far — thanks again!

kronosposeidon says...

>> ^swampgirl:
I'm glad I don't have the dupe power though. I say we should just give all the moderating powers to Kronos and watch him crumble from all the work

I'm already crumbling from the workload. I've already performed two dupe merges, and yet I have not received one sexual favor in return. That's the kind of shit that will drive a man mad.


spoco2 says...

I do have to say that being emailed when every single darn new user joins a playlist is VERY annoying. (I just joined arvana's one).

Can this be turned off in preferences somewhere... or even better, not be a feature at all? Why would I care if someone else has joined a playlist that I am part of, how does it affect me?

lucky760 says...

Hehe. Funny how this is sounding like a political debate all of a sudden.
Let me address some of the issues discussed above.

^gwiz665: With the much fewer star points, I think it would be better to put dupeof in the 250+ group. It's not that much more powerful than * discard anyway?

It's is a very incorrect declaration that *dupeof is not much more powerful than discard. If someone accidentally (or intentionally) misuses discard, it's a simple, meaningless admin function to un-discard. To misuse *dupeof means that the invoker decides on his/her own that a video is a dupe, then can send all their votes to another user+video, then kill what they declared a dupe. All of this cannot be undone.

If it were indeed no more powerful than discard, lowering the requirements might be something to consider. But it's really a matter of handing out powers on the level of a site administrator who could do real, permanent damage to the site (even if accidentally).


^Stingray: *bug: NBC video embeds don't show an icon in their minimized state.

We overlooked the fact that we need to handle thumbnails for our new video hosts. Sorry for this, but they'll remain missing until we have fixed them up.


^campionidelmondo: nice update I guess, but you still cannot search by channel, what is that about?

It has to do with the search engine that powers our search. It's currently too impractical to perform the types of intricate searches we'd like to support. This may change and when it does we will add the ability.


^djsunkid: Bug report: Channel filtres aren't working. I always filtre out election08 and they are all in the top15 now.

The top new videos sidebar has been fixed. Your filters should be working correctly again and if you have a different count than 15 that number should be displayed.


^Abducted: Why is the sift lounge so elitist? Oh and a functionality problem: How do you post the embed code of a video, for say the owner to fix himself.

The Sift Lounge may seem elitist, but that's not the intention. Aside from the technical reasons dag mentioned, we seriously do not want to have a wild wild west type of free-for-all chat room where anybody can come and go to troll and attack other members. We do not want there to ever have to be any issues that require anyone to silence or kick another member.

We call it a Lounge because we want the people who spend time there to just lounge comfortably with friends who have demonstrated they are more likely to participate in a peaceful conversation (rather than the type of spouting off and trolling seen in the Razzleberry meebo chat for example).

Most embeds allow you to grab the code from within the embed itself.


^arvana: There are no vids listed under the Playlists tab (which by default seems to be Group Playlists) even though there already are some group playlists.

This is only temporary. The default listing is by best rank, but currently no group playlists have any rank. That will change very quickly.

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Also, the voting bug has been fixed. And if the ribbon bar at the top of the page looks screwy, do a hard reload (hold ctrl+shift while you reload the page).

lucky760 says...

Thanks Schmawy and LMFAHS @ your new avatar. That's so perfect.

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I've disabled the email notification for new members joining a Group Playlist for which you're a member.

Also, congrats to Arvana for holding the #1 and #2 spots for best ranked Group Playlist.

lucky760 says...

Oh, yes, and in regards to the whole wackiness of the new awards system and siftbot's apparent nonsensical comments etc., please be patient with us. This new system is extremely large and complex and there are obviously a lot of strange kinks that need to be worked out. Hopefully it'll all be perfected within a day or two.

Thanks.

lucky760 says...

Group Playlist rank is based on votes received on all the videos in the playlist. But only for votes received after the video was added to the playlist. (So if you remove a video with lots of votes from your playlist, you'll likely lose some rank, and those lost votes can't ever be returned.)

LittleRed says...

>> ^dag:
As for the dupeof invocation - it's a big messy transaction that has the potential to wreak a lot of havoc. We would like to extend it to diamonds but to tell the truth - as a community, in the past, we've voted up people to that level who probably would use it to break the Sift. Sad but true.


I disagree. What Lucky said made more sense - the nonsense about someone using to "break the Sift" is ridiculous. I'll assume you're talking about Choggie, since you have made your thoughts on him more than clear. He liked to throw temper tantrums and discard shit he didn't like - not steal other people's votes.

Why don't you just make it something that has to be seconded? The way it is now, "dupes" are currently discarded without being watched, just because of the title or the thumbnail. What's to say the same isn't going to happen with dupeof? That's probably a better idea than having one person with a lot of power do it - lower it to silver or bronze diamond, and make it something that has to be seconded. It would also eliminate a lot of the "accidental" dupeof invocations Lucky was talking about.

burdturgler says...

There is a huge amount of dupes submitted to this site.

You are going from 100+ people managing it, to under 5.
Bronze crowns are going to be inundated with pm's to correct them.

During this backlog of work that's being created for them, comments will be posted, voted on, etc. All of which will be lost.
Meanwhile, I and I'm sure others will become more apathetic towards dupes. People will vote on dupes more, post them more, without any concern, assuming they'll eventually be noticed and merged. People will just start crying "dupe" more often, supplying no links because it's not their job... and so on. Eventually, this site will have more dupes, because not everyone will get a bronze crown's attention.

As much as I appreciate your hard work (and I do!), if the current implementation of dupeof can cause such serious damage to the site, then no member should have it.

We need a dupe solution, and one that will merge votes, but I don't think this is it.
I'm sorry I'm being the asshole here, I love the sift, but that's why I wouldn't feel right if I didn't at least say what I think about this.

On a side note:
If I was bronze crown and found out this was my new power, I'd be pissed. You just got handed the mop and bucket for the whole site.

kronosposeidon says...

LittleRed may be onto something. Treat *dupeof similar to *ban, i.e., any gold star member or above can invoke it, but it takes two members to make it official. Plus when it lands on the Sift Talk page, it's in front of the eyes of God and man, so if anyone is feeling evil they'll have to do their evil in the light of day. It also reduces the chances of errors, because let's face facts: I drink and Sift. Unless you can hook a breathalizer up to my computer, there might be problems.

So, would that be possible?

BTW, I would also like to add that you guys did an outstanding job with the upgrade. And just remember this: For every one thing you do wrong you get 99 right. Unfortunately, right now you're mostly going to hear about the 1% you got wrong. And that's not a bad thing, because we all want things to work as best as they can. So maybe if we hooked breathalyzers up to your computers we wouldn't have ANY problems.

djsunkid says...

bt- I think that discarding dupes should still be the default action. We needn't wait around for a crown to merge them. That is why the new action works on videos of all status- dead, discarded, queued, pqueued etc.

LittleRed says...

>> ^spoco2:
I'm a bit iffy on the whole powerpoint thing.
What does it actually do for ME, a lowly gold star member? I can't use it to promote or quality anything. So if you're removing these abilities to get star points but handing out power points that are pretty much useless unless you have the star points anyway, isn't this just further helping the 'videosift elite' rather than those that are clawing their little ways up the chain?


I agree with spoco. Before, I could attempt to craft witty comments in an effort to get prettier jewelry by my name. Now, I craft witty comments, and end up with something that really doesn't help me, nor could it really help anyone else. * beg and * dead are the only two invocations I can call - do I really want a power point for fixing a dead video, just so I can use it to pimp my own lame ones?

[A: no.]

That's a feature that really caters to the gold100s and above. What about something for the lowly members who still contribute, but this isn't our life?

nibiyabi says...

^Pfft, I've probably fixed at least 40 or 50 dupes and only got credit for 8 of 'em. I usually did it when I was at work in a call center that also takes walk-up customers, so I couldn't have audio. Dupe-fixer time!

Anyway, I strongly agree with moving *dupeof privileges to golds or at least gold-100s, with the requirement (like *ban) of a seconding motion.

paul4dirt says...

"A new area for real-time chatting among members called Sift Lounge is available to Gold-100 members and above."

what about charter members...i think members who feel the need to go charter couldn't possibly get the crazy idea of trolling in the chat. also: it would add a nice little bonus to charter.

btw i love the "hover your mouse of the votes on a published video to see the total number of unique member views" update! thanks (even though the label confused me, i think it should say 'unique members')

Ornthoron says...

Another tiny thing that might have been overlooked in the transition: When I fixed the embed code for http://www.videosift.com/video/I-cant-imagine-a-President-being-nam
ed-Obama, I was awarded a Power Point, but Siftbot still said in the comments of that video that I had been awarded a Star Point. He (she?) said the right thing in my profile, though.

Otherwise, I really like the new Sift. Kudos to all the people who worked on this. I also don't agree with those who say that Power Points are useless for us lowly members. As a non-charter silver star, the extra Power Points gives me the opportunity to do self promotes, since they cost double. It gives me the feeling that my efforts are appreciated. It is also more immediately satisfying, compared to cashing in a tiny Star Point on the long grind to the next level.

Deano says...

I agree that seconding the dupeof invocation would surely be a nice defense against rogue diamonds.

BTW may I add my congrats and thanks for all the hard work this update represents.

winkler1 says...

>> Your rank has dropped by 1. You are now ranked #22. User winkler1 is now ahead of you. You can do better than winkler1, can't you? You're only 0 votes away from getting back in front of winkler1.

Sifty thinks I'm ahead of myself--very interesting motivational talk. That sucker winkler1 is going *down*!

lucky760 says...

>> ^paul4dirt:
"A new area for real-time chatting among members called Sift Lounge is available to Gold-100 members and above."
what about charter members...i think members who feel the need to go charter couldn't possibly get the crazy idea of trolling in the chat. also: it would add a nice little bonus to charter.
btw i love the "hover your mouse of the votes on a published video to see the total number of unique member views" update! thanks (even though the label confused me, i think it should say 'unique members')


That's a very good point. Effective now, charters are also able to participate in the lounge. Thanks for the suggestion, p4d.

Eklek says...

2 questions:

-Why is Hulu approved as video host?
Their content is systematically blocked outside of the usa..

-I never had a top15 video but now I have 4 (yesterday I had 2??)..the videos with the highest amount of votes are retroactively seen as never top15 even though at the time of posting they never reached the top15?

thanks in adv.

videosiftbannedme says...

Dunno if this has already been said, as there are WAY too many posts for the time I have at that moment, but the first thing I noticed was that the front page looks really cluttered now. I don't know if it's solely the addition of the 'Dwigger, VaroCMS, etc' bar, the Support tab, or if there were other additional changes. I'm all good with the creators of the Sift wanting to spread the word about their other products, but maybe somewhere else farther down? I rather liked the clean layout of the original page better. My two cents.

SlipperyPete says...

Something buggy:
SiftBot did a strange things with regards to a new star levels being achieved.
Mind you, I was still patting myself on the back for achieving the elite status of Silver star and the power point I earned with it. Then, I was momentarily bumped back down to Bronze when my 25th sift was (incorrectly) labelled *.dead. That was promptly fixed, moving me back into the highly exclusive Silver zone - and I earned another power point for this bump. I'll just assume it's because Sifty is so happy that I'm a member he wanted to reward me twice.

paul4dirt says...

i dont like the channelplaylists only being displaced unless you re-sort, id like a overview on the main channel-page with the channelplaylists AND the normal last-updated-playlist thing cause that seems to be the only way to get some views on a playlist (and a couple views are a good reason for keeping your playlists up to date)

lucky760 says...

If I understand correctly, you mean you want the old non-group playlist listing available? If so, you can still view that by clicking the "Individual Member Playlists" link in the sidebar while on the Playlists tab.

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