Birther Melts Down On MSNBC, Blames MSN "Brownshirts"

This woman is batshit crazy.
spoco2says...

Holy crap the things people will get worked up over.

MAN.

Instead of rationally arguing on policies they go after an insane attack like he isn't an American Citizen.

Which quite frankly I hardly see as a bloody issue anyway, even if he wasn't, which he would certainly seem to be.

Perfect person to get on to demonstrate how insane the 'movement' is though.

rebuildersays...

WTF, is it illegal in the USA for people on TV to just STFU and listen while other people speak? It must be, because all I ever see on these news-talk-shows is a bunch of morons shouting at each other.

westysays...

well right , what dose an culter have to do with it ?

What the woman says could easily be correct IE a sum one would just get a random birth certificate to get cheep imergratoin. This is more than plusable. the News casters are completely retarded . Its a good example of how bad reporting is asking questions like "this person says you are a crank" I mean WTF sort of question is that . at the end of the peace the news people say we have researched it and have evidence , well why dont they present that clearly to the women ore use it to counter her argument.

allso who gives a fuck where obama is from I Dont see why it matters , he could be a Taliban suicide bomber for all I care so long as his policies are good and he has consistently demonstraited good desisoins that benefit the society he governs.

ForgedRealitysays...

>> ^westy:
well right , what dose an culter have to do with it ?
What the woman says could easily be correct IE a sum one would just get a random birth certificate to get cheep imergratoin. This is more than plusable. the News casters are completely retarded . Its a good example of how bad reporting is asking questions like "this person says you are a crank" I mean WTF sort of question is that . at the end of the peace the news people say we have researched it and have evidence , well why dont they present that clearly to the women ore use it to counter her argument.


It's an effort to demonstrate to their audience that this person can easily be "discredited." They want to tell their audience "look what people say about these 'birthers!' I mean really, how can anyone take them seriously?" I think it's a valid question what these birthers are asking, and honestly, I haven't seen any PROOF of the government-funded media's side of things. They keep telling us "here is proof," but it's yet to be hard and conclusive.


allso who gives a fuck where obama is from I Dont see why it matters , he could be a Taliban suicide bomber for all I care so long as his policies are good and he has consistently demonstraited good desisoins that benefit the society he governs.

It matters only as far as the constitution is concerned. This was from a time when they were worried about being taken over from the inside out from hostile forces. Of course, you could look at it from that perspective still today. Most countries in the world hate us, and would love to see us shown the door.

However, I have to disagree with you on your last point. He has not consistently made good decisions. His actions are effectively furthuring this recession. He's spending more money that we do not have that us taxpayers are going to have to be paying back for many years to come. We're trillions of dollars in debt, and yet he feels it's justified to go spend billions more on wars we can't afford to be in right now; wars in which we really have no right to be involved. He feels it's more important to spend millions on "fixing health care," when really it's not in such a dire state right now that it needs immediate attention. We need to focus on fixing the BASIS OF OUR COUNTRY before we can even THINK about fixing all the little things like health care (and, yes, it is a little thing when you consider our entire country is falling apart. Who gives a shit about health care when no one has jobs in the first place, and suicide rates are skyrocketing?) He spends millions on flying all over the place around the country and around the world, holding "meetings" and taking his motherfucking family on vacations. HEY, DIPSHIT! In case you hadn't noticed, YOU HAVE A COUNTRY TO RUN! This is not a free ticket to Disneyland! Stop acting like everything is fine, and fucking do something positive before you have open revolts and rioting.

FIX THE MOTHERFUCKING ECONOMY FIRST! WE CANNOT AFFORD ALL OF THIS WASTED SPENDING! He is deepening the recession and things are going to get a whole lot shittier in the next four years. He's going to be seen as worse than GWB, you mark my words.

Civil War II here we come!

ponceleonsays...

Conspiracy theory is like religion. There is nothing that anyone can say that would dissuade this crackpot (or any person who believes in an improbable/silly conspiracy) from what they believe.

We could invent a time machine, go back to Hawaii and see Obama born and she would still not believe.

nach0ssays...

Yea, this is circus shit. Not only the birther movement as a whole, but this 'interview', which is barely above a booze-fueled trailer park domestic brawl.

westysays...

ForgedReality , you put

"However, I have to disagree with you on your last point. <He has not consistently made good decisions>."

I sead " so long as his policies are good " I did not say all his policies were good , i didnt evan comment on what he has or hasnot done.

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What's funny is obama is really conservative but America is so conservative that they class him as a liberal

and Im sorry but obama has done far better on foghen policy than bush , and if you hadent noticed it looks like usa might get some sort of helth service that is actualy fair and dosnot discimonate against the pore.
I would rather vote for another person if i could but out of Mcain and obama obama is infinatly better and well the obama administration is infinatly better than bush administratoin. if alone for these pionts

1) investing more in science
2) being less retarded on foghen policy
3) taxing the ritch more than the pore.
4) talking more concisely

Loads of shit things about obama but compared to mcain and bush its far far better.

westysays...

As for the economic argument Its hard to say , I am on both sides I can see how it posable that all this spending now could actually just prolong things and cause a bigger depression in the long run , but I can also see how it could end up working out , There is no way to know for sure ether way , it would be like trying to predict the stock market.

It would however seem pretty clear to me that anny thing more conservative than obama ( who as I say is pretty conservative ) would would make worse desissoins than the obama administratoin. emgin bush and mcain making desisoins over this ? Its largely the deregulation of banks and the lack of monitoring capitalism that enabled the crash to happen as it did. a truly libral / social goverment would not alow runaway capatalisum to the exstent a conservative goverment would.

mizilasays...

"What's funny is obama is really conservative but America is so conservative that they class him as a liberal"

Amen.

"obama has done far better on foghen policy than bush "
"far better on foghen policy"
"foghen"

This is my new favorite Westy-ism.

Shpydirsays...

All those people saying he shouldn't spend money we don't have must possess the memory of gnats. The United States for nearly its entire history has had outstanding public debt and has been spending money it didn't have. The last and only time we had no debt was January 8, 1835.

I don't see how Obama wanting to spend money on healthcare and other social issues is any different from Bush Jr. spending money on an illegal war.

Oh wait.

mxxconsays...

orly taints

On August 2, 2009, Taitz released and attached to court documents what she alleged to be an authentic Kenyan birth certificate. The document purports to have been issued by the "Republic of Kenya"; such a state did not yet exist at the time of Obama's birth as indicated on the document (Kenya was a Dominion of the British Crown until 1963). Additionally, Mombasa, the city indicated on the certificate as Obama's birthplace, was not located in Kenya, but in Zanzibar. Subsequently, evidence was unearthed that the alleged Kenyan birth certificate is apparently a modified version of a 1959 Australian birth certificate found on an online genealogy website.

quantumushroomsays...

The MS-DNC prick uses the made-up slur "birther" but then gets pissed about being called a brownshirt. Obama needs to teach his media serfs some manners, or at least how to take a punch.

When is 'crazy' such a bad thing for the left? Don't "you" get your spoon-fed reality from Chomsky, Nader, Moore and Stewart?

Why so socialist?

ponceleonsays...

>> ^quantumushroom:
The MS-DNC prick uses the made-up slur "birther" but then gets pissed about being called a brownshirt. Obama needs to teach his media serfs some manners, or at least how to take a punch.
When is 'crazy' such a bad thing for the left? Don't "you" get your spoon-fed reality from Chomsky, Nader, Moore and Stewart?

Why so socialist?



So the out of control media idiocy is Obama's fault as well? ...

archersays...

>> ^ForgedReality:
He's spending more money that we do not have that us taxpayers are going to have to be paying back for many years to come. We're trillions of dollars in debt, and yet he feels it's justified to go spend billions more on wars we can't afford to be in right now; wars in which we really have no right to be involved.


The national debt grew by 46% during the GWB years, from 5,727,776,738,304.64 on the day he was sworn in
to 10,628,881,485,510.20 on the day he left office.

That, in contrast Clinton's eight years with a modest 27% increase from 4,188,092,107,183.60
to 5,727,776,738,304.64.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov

The debt now stands at 11,648,548,144,569.70, about 1 trillion since Bush left office and Obama came on stage.

With actual facts, I'm not sure I understand the "justification" to stop spending. Apparently a Republican president can start two wars and fight them indefinitely while nearly doubling the national debt, while a democrat must immediately stop both wars and be a fiscal conservative.

vairetubesays...

people can only take so much without wanting to sink down and scream back. is it right? no... does it feel so good? yesss baby. its a human thing~!

i forgive "the media".

i get my news from TDS and Colbert anyway, what i dont hear on videosift. pretty comprehensive sources imo.

quantumushroomsays...

So the out of control media idiocy is Obama's fault as well? ...

Didn't you get the memo?--all of these dogmatic left-wing mainstream media pukes virtually work for the Obama Administration, hiding his many flaws, highlighting his many inanities and "reporting" the news with a bias that makes FOX downright journalistic by comparison.

Dear Leader isn't forcing these shills to play his game, they do it willingly.

Mikus_Aureliussays...

>> ^archer:
>> ^ForgedReality:
He's spending more money that we do not have that us taxpayers are going to have to be paying back for many years to come. We're trillions of dollars in debt, and yet he feels it's justified to go spend billions more on wars we can't afford to be in right now; wars in which we really have no right to be involved.

The national debt grew by 46% during the GWB years, from 5,727,776,738,304.64 on the day he was sworn in
to 10,628,881,485,510.20 on the day he left office.
That, in contrast Clinton's eight years with a modest 27% increase from 4,188,092,107,183.60
to 5,727,776,738,304.64.
http://www.treasurydirect.gov
The debt now stands at 11,648,548,144,569.70, about 1 trillion since Bush left office and Obama came on stage.
With actual facts, I'm not sure I understand the "justification" to stop spending. Apparently a Republican president can start two wars and fight them indefinitely while nearly doubling the national debt, while a democrat must immediately stop both wars and be a fiscal conservative.


1) 46%? Better check that arithmetic.

2) Anyone who claims to know exactly how a given amount of debt will affect the economy, or how much debt we can accrue before a total collapse of the fiscal system is full of it. The global economy and the United States' role in it is totally unprecedented, and everyone is just guessing. Clinton's advisers guessed that balancing the budget would boost confidence and spur economic growth. Cheney is on record saying that there's no problem with deficits forever. Obama's guys think borrowing money from China to fuel a recovery makes sense.

Even with hindsight we don't know how much Clinton's policies caused the Boom of the 90's, or Bush's spending caused the recessions of his presidency. There were too many other factors at work to lay all the credit at the feet of the government. Similarly, we may be able to rack up debt for decades with few consequences, or our creditors could get fed up and the US could be forced to default within 6 months.

If the best economic minds in the country don't know how best to balance spending and debt. It's unlikely that any sifters or the talking heads we listen to do either.

ponceleonsays...

Hey QM, since almost everything everywhere seems to be Obama's fault, maybe you can provide me a list of things which aren't his fault, I'm sure that will be shorter...

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