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Sorry, you make a deal with the Devil (ha ha) to let the government indoctrinate your kids, you don't get to decide what is taught. On the bright side, economics, American history and civics aren't being taught, assuring yet another generation of liberal tools.

^QM I've really been taking your comments with a grain of salt; but THAT sir is a bunch of malarkey.

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>> ^quantumushroom:
Sorry, you make a deal with the Devil (ha ha) to let the government indoctrinate your kids, you don't get to decide what is taught. On the bright side, economics, American history and civics aren't being taught, assuring yet another generation of liberal tools.


I think Stephen Colbert put it best: Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

Evolution is True. its a FACT, the exact same way germs or viruses are a facts. We know this for the same reason: these theories actually WORK. they predict, they are testable, they hold up to decades of scientific scrutiny. Are there uncertainties?, problems? Of course, thats why we still have researchers, and its also one of the best reasons to pass on our best knowledge to our children, so that they can solve these problems in the future.

We do not know how to cure HIV/AIDS for example, but nobody with a reasonable laymans understanding of the term "virus" thinks that its demon-possession or witchcraft or punishment from the gods. We KNOW, with what is close to a 100% certainty that a VIRUS -tiny, evolving replicators that transmit sexually- is the cause of HIV, we've known this for 20-30 years, and its a fact that isnt going to change.

The exact same thing can be said about the theory of evolution, it is a comprehensive, well established and true explanation for an extremely wide range of facts and evidence collected from not only paleontology and genetics, but also geology, astronomy, medicine, chemistry, physics and even mathematics. If you'd want to defeat this theory with a silly, meaningless phrase like "intelligent design" ,you'd have to undo and outdo evolution's explanatory power in all of these disiplines.

I'd put QM on ignore, but then I couldn't downvote his comments!

As for this video, I was teetering between two comments;

America, FUCK YEAH!

or

Texas, stupid and proud of it!

Magic is -real-. Red skinned cloven hoofed horned dudes live underground below your feet! BEWARE! LIVE IN FEAR! REPENT REPENT!

I'm a proponent of Intelligent Design. After all, how do you explain the complexity of our systems without some sort of divine intervention, namely the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

HEATHENS! BE TOUCHED BY HIS NOODLY APPENDAGES AND YE SHALL KNOW HIS WORKS, FOR THEY ARE DIVINE AND COVERED IN PASTA SAUCE!

>> ^thinker247:
I'm a proponent of Intelligent Design. After all, how do you explain the complexity of our systems without some sort of divine intervention, namely the Flying Spaghetti Monster?
HEATHENS! BE TOUCHED BY HIS NOODLY APPENDAGES AND YE SHALL KNOW HIS WORKS, FOR THEY ARE DIVINE AND COVERED IN PASTA SAUCE!


Can I get a RAMEN?!!

QM How do you get that tiny font when you leave comments? Mine is always too large for my tastes.

Damn. I wanted to make some sweeping generalizations about Texas.

I'm not going to watch this whole video just to see that chick in the red shirt. Unless that camera pans a little...

God damn it Texas, don't make me leave you for another state... again.

Jesus Christ, I hate religion.

Why can't all these religionists go to hell (or heaven, whatever myth they wanna go with) and leave us sane people alone?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/progresswear/1449438520/sizes/o/

>> ^ForgedReality:
Jesus Christ, I hate religion.

Good lord, how right you are.

HEY! Don't you guys see the benefits of faith based science?!? It will let us measure events without collapsing the wave-function/superposition by having faith that it will be a three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt believe, and the number of the measurement shall be three. Four shalt thou not measure, neither measure thou two, excepting that thoust's measurement dost proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number mid 0 or 6, be reached, then thou shall have thine answer. Amen.

It's very easy. If a person says, "I think ID is a good theory" they're idiots. If they say "I have doubts about evolution" they're are uneducated. If they say "Evolution is false" they're idiots.

upvote for inclusion of clip from "Kentucky Fried Movie" !
(the news report with horoscopes where she was shot with arrow)

You know what, let them teach it in schools.

Seriously.

Then watch all the smart kids stop taking ALL of the government brainwashing shit seriously and see who they vote for when they're old enough.

"All my exes live in Texas. That's why I live in Tennessee."

The girl in red is at 4:28. deathcow (you got your panning it seems). Also there's another girl right after at 4:29. That's all there is to see in this video. Have a good night... or day... whatever it is that you're having in your part of the world.

science fails to disprove... religion fails to prove. big diff!

When the narrator appeared at 2:10 I had a little internal facepalm. Tip: if you're trying to convince anyone religious that science should be taught to their children, try to avoid looking like the devil while doing it. I'm all for grooming yourself however you see fit, but there are circumstances where a pointed goatee is unhelpful.

Easily the lowest quality HQ video I've seen yet.

(Referring to the quality... NOT the content.)

^yo moonsammy, where exactly in the bible does it have a picture of the devil ? or perhaps even an description of him ?
devil = made up, just like their god

QM How do you get that tiny font when you leave comments? Mine is always too large for my tastes.

Who knows? The small-minded are afraid of big words?

For the record, I don't support intelligent design, but that wasn't my point, was it? When the government controls what your children learn, you and your values are effectively out of the loop and ignored. Those bureaucrats can make up whatever shit they like about any subject and there's nothing you can do about it. You should try getting a hold of your local schools' curriculum. I bet you won't be allowed access to it.

I think Stephen Colbert put it best: Reality has a well-known liberal bias.

Colbert is a moron paid to read others' words. You do know he's not a real newscaster? (Then again, neither are most newsliberals).

If reality has a liberal bias, then why does an equality of outcomes (not opportunity) and political correctness have to be pushed so hard by government indoctrination centers, kollijes, the mainstream media and Hollywood? Why do those many, many OTHER points of view have to be mocked and silenced by groupthink liberals?

Perhaps liberalism can't compete in the marketplace of ideas. Like hard communism, modern liberalism's Communism Lite is a glurge of wonderful theories spoiled by reality.

lets be honest, how many high school graduates can accurately describe and explain the scientific method, anyways?

33% of high school students never read another book after high school
42% of college students never read another book after college

Science has been dead for quite some time now.

Finally! An accurate astrological forcast (@7:30)

>> ^quantumushroom:
Colbert is a moron paid to read others' words. You do know he's not a real newscaster? (Then again, neither are most newsliberals).

Who said anything about him being a newscaster? Nor do I know whether he actually wrote that, but he said it at the White House correspondents dinner while roasting Bush. But none of that actually matters, what matters is the meaning of the words themselves. Your Fox-induced delusions about "communism lite" and the term "liberal bias" are picture-perfect examples of you missing the point of colbert's(or whoever wrote it) quote entirely.

Anybody stupid and ignorant enough to call Obama (or ANY American liberal) "communist"(or "communism lite") really needs a long, hard reality-check, you might want to look up words like, uhm, you know, "communism", "america" and "liberal" before EVER opening your mouth again about any of these subjects. While you are at it, why not try looking up things like "socialism" "social capitalism" and "social democracy" just to mention a few political directions that belong outside both the Texas Desert or the Siberian Tundra.

Perhaps liberalism can't compete in the marketplace of ideas.

Perhaps. Unfortunately that doesnt mean it's competitors are RIGHT, it just means they have convinced more people, or more powerful people, or richer people. If you want proof of this, then look no further to where real, actual communism has out-competed every other idea on the market.

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The narrator looks like Elrond O_O

>> ^imstellar28:
lets be honest, how many high school graduates can accurately describe and explain the scientific method


There isn't any such thing as "The Scientific Method" maybe that's why people have problems knowing what it is.

>> ^BicycleRepairMan:
>> ^quantumushroom>
The exact same thing can be said about the theory of evolution, it is a comprehensive, well established and true explanation for an extremely wide range of facts and evidence collected from not only paleontology and genetics, but also geology, astronomy, medicine, chemistry, physics and even mathematics. If you'd want to defeat this theory with a silly, meaningless phrase like "intelligent design" ,you'd have to undo and outdo evolution's explanatory power in all of these disiplines.


IMO...

I don't disagree with evolution, which might be inferred by paleontology, genetics and geneology, but the other scientific disciplines are mearly tools to provide analytical techniques and nothing more. They know nothing about evolution but try to quantify (for us) how things work. Do not confuse the tool with the theory.

There isn't any such thing as "The Scientific Method" maybe that's why people have problems knowing what it is.

Is that the new conservative tactic, to deny the existance of something? Kinda like "nyah nyah, I can't see you, so you can't see me!"

Pope John Paul -- the last catholic pope, in case you don't use the internet for historical truths either -- announced that evolution is not incompatible with religion. I recommend you use the internet to get the details. The announcement was in Oct 24, 1996.

It is a well established truth that most high ranking members of the church take their bibles as metaphorical truths rather than literal ones. It is only zealotry or insanity that drives people to believe that the earth is less than 10k years old, or that we're all descended from two people who ate an apple given to them by a talking snake.

Frankly, I don't care that anyone believes any of that nonsense. What I do care about is that religion, at least in the US, is becoming so dog-eat-dog that people are reliving history : hating other religions, enforcing literal interpretations, and simple closed-minded zealotry.

The theory of evolution is as much a "theory" as the theory of gravity is just a "theory", which is to say, you can test gravity and prove its existance pretty damn well every day. We don't understand a lot of gravity right now, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. The theory of evolution is very similar in that respect -- we understand a lot of it, we know it to be a fact, we just don't understand all of it. Science is like that; we are always in pursuit of greater understanding.

Religion is anathema to that.

^Just to be pedantic, we do know quite a lot about gravity and of evolution as well.

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^imstellar28:
lets be honest, how many high school graduates can accurately describe and explain the scientific method

There isn't any such thing as "The Scientific Method" maybe that's why people have problems knowing what it is.


Um, yes there is.

http://www.videosift.com/video/The-Scientific-Method-Made-Easy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/project_scientific_method.shtml

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Science gets people to fly to the moon.
Religion gets people to fly jets into skyscrapers.

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^Now that's a moronic fucking statement. Ever been to Rhode Island??

Seriously, the same type of sophomoric generalizations, over and over and over and over again. There are a few users here on VS from Texas. This one in particular believes that the insipid argument for or against creationism vs. evolution relative to public education in the states, is only engaged in by morons who somehow conclude that to simply have this argument settled once and for all would somehow detract from the fact that public "education" in the US is cranking out developmentally disabled robots....suited for upon completion of 12 years of the shit, food service, government employment, or highway construction work. Improve the quality?? Ban idiocy and burn them to the ground!
Public schools have become total shit, as have the majority of universities in this continent. Evolution VS Creationism??? Another on a series of goddamn diversions.

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