One question, what happens if you're in an accident and end up at the hospital?

Still, neat idea.

Good in concept yes, but they say it won't escalate in violence? Frustrating the shit out of someone who can already overpower you? The ones who fight back the most end up getting the most beat as well.

Don't get me wrong, it's a first step toward a much needed protection for women. I'm curious to see how it is rolled out and the outcome if it sadly is needed to be used.

I kept waiting for the punchline. I thought this was some parody. Very cool idea. *sexuality *femme *engineering

Adding video to channels (Engineering, Femme, Sexuality) - requested by braschlosan.

The ones who fight back get raped and beaten the least:

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/211201.pdf

or

http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/4925HomeComputer/Rape%20myths/10-Year%20Update.pdf

Take note that modern studies take into account the sequencing of violence and resistance, while earlier studies did not - and it shows clearly that resistance works.

Interesting, the video talks about resistance but some studies show that unless it is active resistance then it is unlikely to work. One set of data I saw showed passive resistance increasing the likelihood of a bad result. So you may be right if it simply frustrates an attacker.

Good point, when she mentioned studies on "resistance" I was skeptical they could really be equated with difficult clothing. And, while I think this would probably do more good than harm, there are some worrying scenarios. For example they say it could protect unconscious women from having their shorts cut away. But a prolonged knife attack on super tight fitting shorts sounds like it would result in lots of cutting.

In fairness, I don't think there is any way to protect against that type of attack. These are an effective deterrent, but I don't think the manufacturer is claiming they will protect you from every scenario.

Sure, there's downsides, but this seems like a pretty awesome product.

** Warning. Does not prevent nose rape.**

These stats are old -- but something like 80% of attacks against women are from single unarmed assailants.

They are looking for a victim, not a fight.

So any type of resistance increases a woman's likelihood of escaping rape.

A self defense class I took years ago taught us how to effectively use our legs to resist -- much stronger than arms, and keeps the attacker farther away. So they taught us in certain circumstances to play "weak" until the attacker moves to take off clothing, then shout NO and kick the bejeebers out of them.

It has been a long time since that class, but I review the basic concepts now and again and find that I still remember them.

Single. UNARMED. Assailants. This may change once women learn to fight back -- those creeps plan on women succumbing to victim-status now. Once our culture changes, they may change.

And for god's sake, women, don't get blotto drunk. Men, you too. It's just stupid.

This product is a non-utilitarian piece of over-priced garbage. The women they market this to that will actually BUY it are types that spend thousands of dollars on covetous bullshit, over-priced meals, housekeepers, etc. Privileged, paranoid, nigga-rich white bitches. How about a DIY belt with a fucking padlock onnit? Cheaper and more effective.

Krav Maga and utilization of pokey stuff: The two fastest and best ways for women to not only stop an attacker, but seriously fuck them up permanently.
Kung Fu or a pistol works fine, too.

Oh and ladies, please continue kicking your assailant in the genitals and soft tissue until police arrive?? Why send them back out on the street or even to trial, eh?? Embrace the mind of your attacker....with a heel to his temple after he lay bleeding on the ground. That'll learn 'em to practice unilaterally satisfying sex again.

Well, nigga-rich white bitches is the worst thing I've heard today, but there's still time left until midnight.

what an awful world we've made

They'd make awesome sex toys too . . . just saying :-p

Better still...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=jts0xxg7P8I#t=15

Either way, FIGHT LIKE A WILDCAT.

Every time I say things like this, my feminist friends tell me I'm blaming the victim.

Or perhaps they could just go with the with the wet leather leggings, works for the Eskimos.
http://videosift.com/video/George-Carlin-About-Rape

I presume you mean the very last line, not the stuff I learned in the class. About women getting blotto drunk.

That last sentence can be unpacked into a book length essay. I just cut to the chase -- given this rape culture we live in, where nice guys don't speak up and shame the bad guys, where men and women both slut shame women while giving a pass to the men who commit actual crimes -- given that starting point, it is a foolish person who gets blotto drunk.

It is a stupid thing to do regardless of your gender.

It is also a foolish person who walks into a high poverty area at midnight, alone, with twenty dollar bills stapled to their clothes and wads of bills clutched in their hands. That is a gender neutral statement.

Smart idea until you're at that night club wasted and desperately need to take a piss.

That's why I don't have any feminist friends

Someone downvoted your comment. I fixed it back to zero

Why did this video feel like a parody?

because living in a world where a product like this is necessary is a sick joke.

Because it sounds like a modern day chastity belt?

Only works on women who have hips and less than 10% body fat. Any woman who has a normal fat content will have to cut off circulation to wear these effectively.

Do not wear when experiencing bouts of explosive diarrhea.

Appreciated-This happens not infrequently when colloquial euphemisms are used to make a point-That point lost in translation for some whose itchy-trigger-fingers twitch at the very odour of being able to scream RACISM! from the high tower of moral superiority and cultural sensitivity.

Hey babymech, your comment was popular, eh? You can't "hear" the written word by the way, you "read" it. The word "nigger" rang in the head like a church bell, and a predictable knee-jerk reaction followed at the sight of a combination of keystrokes, choosing not to address the meat of my comment, but fixated instead on some inferred or assumed character flaw? It's a diversionary tactic not uncommon with so-called 'news' and political organizations not unlike my conscious decision to use an inflammatory euphemism to invoke a predictable reaction.

In a sane world, men who rape women would be shot at sunrise and people who cry racism when they read a single printed word are in desperate need of continuing education.

Danke, braschlosan-This has happened here before when I've intentionally pushed the "OMG racism!" button.

There are no church bells in my bathroom

neat idea, they should make a mens version for prisons

also, doesn't really help if the attacker has a weapon and just threatens the woman to take her cock-blocker-3000's off.

I find this incredibly offensive and scary. I don't know if I was more angry when I thought it was a parody gone too far or when I realized it was real.

Not even after chili-night??

damn nigga-rich white bitches lol

do they have an altar-boy version?

"given this rape culture we live in"

What bullshit, you've been reading too much Salon. This isn't the 1960's. No one, outside of the very rightest of the right wing, is going around slut-shaming rape victims.

Or:

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/12/4549775/nightmare-in-maryville-teens-sexual.html

And the famous one:

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/1/7/hacker_group_anonymous_leaks_chilling_video

Which then was:

http://www.mrctv.org/videos/cnners-treat-steubenville-rapists-more-sympathetically-todd-akin?vdt=video_tab_block%257Cblock_2

Yeah, good thing we don't hold up rapist as hero's and feel sympathy for their lives being ruined . . . Welcome to the real world.

Erm, if it saves someone from getting raped, isn't it worth the cost? I don't think they said they were making the state pay for them (zomg, socialist rape protecting underwear!!)

Or if wearing them makes a rape victim feel more comfortable when, for example, getting back in to dating (rather than walking down Rape Alley in Rapington)?

Just sayin..

I'm a horrible person for saying this but... large women do not require this product.

Shows what you know about the rapist mentality -- it isn't (always) about sex, my friend.

80 year old nuns have been raped. Downs syndrome and disabled men and women have been raped. Fat women have been raped. The whole rape culture in prison, nary a slender woman in a miniskirt in sight. It can be about control and power and anger.

Besides, even for those men motivated by lust, what are the odds that zero percent of them are attracted to women of size? Women are shamed about being large, men are shamed about finding large women attractive, so you may not even be aware that there are men out there who like large women.

I don't think you are a horrible person -- I think you are uninformed of the complexities of the subject.

I know you are just making an offhand, presumably mildly funny?, remark and here I am, getting all complicated. However, this comment is the seed from which the mighty oak "she was asking for it" grows. Just thought I'd take the opportunity to point that out.

Well, I did say that my comment really needed a book-length essay. I used short hand to get my point across. Glad to see that there were Sifters who got it without having to patiently prove each syllable with detailed facts and figures.

What total bullshit. I ride the bus to work. Every once in awhile there will be a muslim on board. That doesn't mean we live in a muslim culture.

Going around pretending that rape is somehow accepted or condoned in our society is FUCKING ABSURD. Rape culture indeed, pfft, pull your head out of your ass.

That's false. Rape is violence, not sex.

http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/myths.html

Victims are seldom chosen for physical attributes, age, or gender.

These wouldn't work on young girls either, who haven't developed "curves".

Should have marked comment as *sarcasm

Do you just not bother going to the bathroom in these things, or do you carry a key on you? If the latter, do we assume that the rapist isn't going to say "take them off or <x>?" I don't want to shit on the idea or anything, but it strikes me that this may provide some people with a false sense of protection almost, that says "go on.. take a risk; you've always got your rape pants on if this goes badly." Have that extra 5 drinks and get wasted, walk down that dark street alone, accept the free drink off the creepy guy you're getting a weird vibe off. Not everyone is that stupid to see it that way, but some people are.

There have been links posted that provide some form of evidence that resisting tends to reduce the harm done to the victim, but the form of resistance really needs to be accounted for. If 7 times out of 10 screaming and fighting scares a rapist off and 3 times out of 10 it doesn't, then the statistics can show that screaming and fighting works well for the victim. But i was led to believe that rape is about power, and if our 3 out of 10 rapists are presented with the inability to feel empowered in the way they want, did we just convert the statistic to 2 out of 10 victims getting murdered or mutilated instead? In other words, if screaming/fighting doesn't work then you're dealing with someone who isn't easily put off, so aren't at least some of them going to find another outlet for their desire for power over the person? And is frustrating them (effectively making them feel powerless) really a good idea given the situation?

Finally, i hate the term "rape culture." It's an utterly vacant bullshit term bandied about by misandrists and makes people irrationally scared of something that doesn't exist. The culture of rape? Some sick, mentally deranged bastard commits a heinous act and we label it as though it has been educated upon them through society; almost as though it isn't their fault, it's modern day society that encourages rape? What an absolute load of toss - everyone knows it's wrong that has a grasp of the concepts of right and wrong. Rapists are sick in the head, not coerced into it by peer pressure. "Rape culture" indeed. Some extremist lunatics shaming a victim does not a culture make.

Yes, every one in a while I'll get on the bus and there'll be another person. But that doesn't mean we live in a people culture.

Hell, every once in a while I'll even see a person working hard, but that doesn't mean we live in a hard working culture.

You really should get your head of the sand and realize that there's a world outside of you. Just because you like to deny a statistical fact doesn't make it not true.

1 in 4 women will be sexually assaulted. Woman have been scorned for being raped. National figure heads have called rape victims sluts on national TV and people will cheer. When 30% or more of the population believes it's the victim's fault, there's a problem.

Seems to me a good rape deterrent would be tentacles that slither out from the legbands or waistband when someone attempts to remove the garment in an improper fashion. It would definitely scare the bejeezus out of most people and on the upside I'm sure such an innovation would be a popular selling point in Japan for all the wrong reasons.

Indeed. I believe the option was placed here by popular (mob) decision a few years back in order to mitigate the "panty knotters" from lapsing into self-righteous pontificating, finger-wagging, and holier-than-thou tirades.

When you talk to Mr. or Mrs. Literal....♪ You better mean just what you saaaaay! ♫

Solution: Ladies, stuff a latex dildo in your jogging shorts before going-out and keep a collection of fake mustaches and gum spirits on the cosmetic table.

...damn....really...48....