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HOW DARE SHE!!!!

Only in America..Only in America is someone STOOPiid enough to grow vegetables! THEY ARE SOLD AT THE MARKET DUMMY!!

That bitch. All a front-yard garden like that does is encourage people to get off their asses and try to adapt to the shitty economy. How can we all be bullshit, obedient, helpless, consumer drones if we're out in our yards growing vegetables? The founding fathers would be rolling over in their graves.

I much prefer the look of red rock, bark dust and those 50 cent petunias that you can buy by the flat at home depot.

How goes it again? American, land of the what? free?

right...

Dammit EMPIRE! The constitution clearly doesn't give people the right to just grow vegetables, willy-nilly all over their front yards! Pretty soon, gay polygamists will be aborting puppies in churches!

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I HAVE NO CLUE WHY I SAID LOUD NOISES.

That front yard of hers is ECO friendly.

Holy F, listen to that lawyer, what an ass

mmhmmm hmm-if you look into webster's dictionary I think you'll find you can't grow vegetables, TOO UNUSUAL!

I fucking hate shit like this. I recently received a notice of violation from the city regarding my car being parked in my front year. How much grass do you see in any of the front yards here? None. All the yards here are rock and gravel. It's too costly and wasteful to maintain grass in 115 degree summers. Keep in mind it's not some shitty, broken-down car on blocks. It's an 04 Volvo S60 that's in perfect running order with no cosmetic damage. It's my fucking yard. I should be able to park my car there. I understand that the intent of the law is to keep heaps of junk from being stashed there, but fuck.

>> ^EMPIRE:

How goes it again? American, land of the what? free?
right...


It is @NetRunner 's utilitarian calculus in full action. You only get rights to something if you can prove it is good.

So her plants aren't "common?" (Never mind that "suitable" does not equal "common"...)

Then basically, her crime is being different. Conform, or be punished. You see that a lot in suburbia these days.

Mwahahaha and now I know where @MarineGunrock LIVES!

I'm gonna poop in his yard!>> ^MarineGunrock:

I fucking hate shit like this. I recently received a notice of violation from the city regarding my car being parked in my front year. How much grass do you see in any of the front yards here? None. All the yards here are rock and gravel. It's too costly and wasteful to maintain grass in 115 degree summers. Keep in mind it's not some shitty, broken-down car on blocks. It's an 04 Volvo S60 that's in perfect running order with no cosmetic damage. It's my fucking yard. I should be able to park my car there. I understand that the intent of the law is to keep heaps of junk from being stashed there, but fuck.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/08/michigan-resident-faces-3-days-in-jail-for-vegetable-garden/?test=latestnews

What the crap is she eating vegetables for anyway?

I mean, c'mon lady, you live in Amurhca - go through a drive through and get a Big Mac if you and your kids are hungry!

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Goddamn is it hard being white in the suburbs! We got all kinds of people 'round here trying to do crazy shit like grow vegetables, in their front yard!

Ordinary fucking people.

Yeah, the intent of the law is to legislate against poor people, but apparently we can't make a law against being poor. Maybe some day congress will get its shit together.>> ^MarineGunrock:

I fucking hate shit like this. I recently received a notice of violation from the city regarding my car being parked in my front year. How much grass do you see in any of the front yards here? None. All the yards here are rock and gravel. It's too costly and wasteful to maintain grass in 115 degree summers. Keep in mind it's not some shitty, broken-down car on blocks. It's an 04 Volvo S60 that's in perfect running order with no cosmetic damage. It's my fucking yard. I should be able to park my car there. I understand that the intent of the law is to keep heaps of junk from being stashed there, but fuck.

holy snapping ducks feet, what an abuse of the law (by the council).

This woman is nothin' but a damn communist socialist nazi atheist abortionist, with her vegetable-growing tree-hugging scheme!! Go buy a fucking burger you red!!! Meat is what keeps Uncle Sam in business!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was fined for parking in my yard a few years ago when people across the street have been doing it for years. The reason I was fined? Obstructing the sidewalk. There's no sidewalk in my yard, it stops about a block before my house. When I brought this to the attention of the local courthouse they told me that I was fined because if there would have been a sidewalk there, I would have been blocking it

>> ^MarineGunrock:

I fucking hate shit like this. I recently received a notice of violation from the city regarding my car being parked in my front year. How much grass do you see in any of the front yards here? None. All the yards here are rock and gravel. It's too costly and wasteful to maintain grass in 115 degree summers. Keep in mind it's not some shitty, broken-down car on blocks. It's an 04 Volvo S60 that's in perfect running order with no cosmetic damage. It's my fucking yard. I should be able to park my car there. I understand that the intent of the law is to keep heaps of junk from being stashed there, but fuck.

Government always start out with good intentions and end up with stupid / harmful stuff like this.

Questioning authority?? HOW DARE SHE!! Where are the goon squad when you need them?

Maybe they could get bareboards and QM to go in with them and stamp on it.. and if they're lucky the people will be dumb enough to try and defend their rights; then it's fascist party time!

I looked up "suitable" in Webster's. I did not see the word "common" there. Lawyer FAIL.

The government is made up of people with good intentions (who eventually do stupid stuff like this.) People can be ridiculous sometimes.>> ^bobknight33:

Government always start out with good intentions and end up with stupid / harmful stuff like this.

So, it would be alright if the whole street grew vegetables, but not if only one house does it? She can tell that lawyer where he can stick his jalapeno...

Click through on Marinegunrock's link above. You wouldn't be the first person.

>> ^shponglefan:

I looked up "suitable" in Webster's. I did not see the word "common" there. Lawyer FAIL.

If the citizens hate the law against front yard gardens (yardens?) so much they should change it. Until then, if the law is proven to define no front yardens, then that's the law.

It's all a matter of degree, isn't it liberals? You're upset about THIS when your eco-fascism is now fully one-third of fedguv's laws...LOOK at the arbitrary power you've given your masters!

All of a sudden you're FOR private property rights? Out-RAGEOUS!



Here's some of the voices of reason of your heroes:

"We already have too much economic growth in the United States. Economic growth in rich countries like ours is the disease, not the cure."

--Paul Elrich, Stanford University biologist and Advisor to Albert Gore

"I think if we don't overthrow capitalism, we don't have a chance of saving the world ecologically. I think it is possible to have an ecological society under socialism. I don't think it's possible under capitalism."

--Judi Barri of Earth First!

"Capitalism is a cancer in the biosphere."

--Dave Foreman, Founder, Earth First!

"The northern spotted owl is the wildlife species of choice to act as a surrogate for old-growth forest protection," explained Andy Stahl, staff forester for the Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund, at a 1988 law clinic for other environmentalists. "Thank goodness the spotted owl evolved in the Pacific Northwest," he joked, "for if it hadn't, we'd have to genetically engineer it."

--Andy Stahl at a 1988 law clinic for environmentalists, staff forester, Sierra Club Legal Defense Fund

"Now, in a widening sphere of decisions, the costs of error are so exorbitant that we need to act on theory alone, which is to say on prediction alone. It follows that the reputation of scientific prediction needs to be enhanced. But that can happen, paradoxically, only if scientists disavow the certainty and precision that they normally insist on. Above all, we need to learn to act decisively to forestall predicted perils, even while knowing that they may never materialize. We must take action, in a manner of speaking, to preserve our ignorance. There are perils that we can be certain of avoiding only at the cost of never knowing with certainty that they were real."

--Jonathan Shell, author of Our Fragile Earth

"A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect."

--Richard Benedict, an employee for the State Department working on assignment for the Conservation Foundation

"[W]e have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."

--Stephen Schneider, Stanford University Professor and author Quoted by Dixey Lee Ray in Trashing the Planet (1990)


"More science and more technology are not going to get us out of the present ecological crises until we find a new religion, or rethink our old one."

--Lynn White, Jr. "The Historical Roots of Our Ecological Crisis," Science, (Mar. 10 1967), p 1206

"Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license.... All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."

--David Brower, Friends of the Earth

"The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state."

--Keith Boulding, originator of the "Spaceship Earth" concept

"If radical environmentalists were to invent a disease to bring human populations back to sanity, it would probably be something like AIDS. It [AIDS] has the potential to end industrialism, which is the main force behind the environmental crises."

--Earth First! newsletter

That's just... I mean... wow.
>> ^residue:

I was fined for parking in my yard a few years ago when people across the street have been doing it for years. The reason I was fined? Obstructing the sidewalk. There's no sidewalk in my yard, it stops about a block before my house. When I brought this to the attention of the local courthouse they told me that I was fined because if there would have been a sidewalk there, I would have been blocking it

The same bullshit is happening to me. Not with a Garden but with a Shed.

I have 1/4 acre of property but the town will only let me have an 10 shed. I can have TWO 10 sheds but I can't have ONE 10x16 shed.

Also the shed has to be at the rear of the house, not next to my house (even though the neighbors are on opposite sides of my property)

Towns have entirely too much control over what you can do with your property.

ridiculous!

Grow your mariju - er, tomatoes indoors.

Mmmmmmm, marimatoes.

>> ^MrFisk:

Grow your mariju - er, tomatoes indoors.

Our precious tax dollars at work. What a joke.

Monsanto says you are not allowed to grow your own vegetables, they are licensed by the government to be the only provider of seeds, plants, and vegetables.

therefore home gardens are illegal



at least that is what it will turn into


I really hope some crazed farmer blows up monsanto someday

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

>> ^EMPIRE:
How goes it again? American, land of the what? free?
right...

It is @NetRunner 's utilitarian calculus in full action. You only get rights to something if you can prove it is good.


Who said this was the greatest good for the greatest number? Not me, nor the people in her neighborhood. Not even the city council guy. Even gross consequentialist reasoning shows that a lot of people enjoy her garden, and seem disturbed at by the very idea that the city could force her to get rid of it. That's weighed against one cranky old lady saying "I don't like it, it's unnatural".

On the other hand, people who insist that everything be categorical wind up making nonsensical Calvinball arguments. What right is being violated?

It's not a violation of property rights, if that's what you think. Buying real estate gets you a fee simple title. Buying a house does not entitle you to sovereign territory that is beyond the jurisdiction of the US legal system.

Incidentally, city council guy was making a categorical argument -- the law says suitable, suitable means normal, normal means exactly like everyone else, and she's the only person with a front-yard vegetable garden, therefore it must be illegal. If he were a utilitarian, he'd say "I don't see the harm" and let her be.

Hey great idea! I'm gonna plant my front lawn as a dense cabbage patch. Save me having to mow the bloody thing.

Is nobody going to comment on how stoopid quantummushrooms comment was?

quantummushrooms comment was stoopid.

Also, if she could get her neighbors to all plant gardens in their front yards, even temporarily, the prosecution's argument would implode in his face. Community action, boyo.

it says Suitable: 1. Obsolete : Similar, matching.

Shh!!! Don't feed him!>> ^spaceman:

Is nobody going to comment on how stoopid quantummushrooms comment was?

I always miss these big posts until it's too late and everyones already said everything.

Makes sense that the only neighbor they found that didn't like it was a fat bitch who probably hasn't eaten a vegetable in her life.

http://videosift.com/video/Veggies-allowed-but-now-they-are-after-her-dogs

@Yogi, you can come get pissed over on this comment stream.