"Well maybe the science points to the fact that maybe science doesn't explain all these things. And if it does point to that, then why don't we pursue that? But you can't, because it's not science!"

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peggedbea says...

the problem with is not that he has faith in a creator, the problem with this is that it's the stupidest, most inarticulate argument ever and that he wants to lead nations.

ChosenOne says...

When someone is talking to me nonsensically I have a tendency to stare at a computer screen and type faster and pretend I'm not in the room also...

srd says...

>> ^lwi:

>> ^transporter:
science needs to take a look at this guy's head

why? there's nothing in it.


Ah, you're forgetting vacuum fluctuations.

The question is: is his skull so thick as to generate a casimir effect? In which case you can forget the power drill, the drill bit would just break off.

messenger says...

Science doesn't allow non-scientific things in science class. Religion doesn't allow non-religious things in the religion class. What's your point again?

lavoll says...

it is in the bible.. god created the world.. and then when he was done with that, he created the world again, but in a different way.

transporter says...

only one way to find out
(**please let this be the next Santorum campaign video**)
>> ^srd:

>> ^lwi:
>> ^transporter:
science needs to take a look at this guy's head

why? there's nothing in it.

Ah, you're forgetting vacuum fluctuations.
The question is: is his skull so thick as to generate a casimir effect? In which case you can forget the power drill, the drill bit would just break off.

solecist says...

my grandmother is probably nodding her head knowingly while watching this. she has a signed fucking picture of santorum (the man, not the act) on her wall.

also, while visiting her for christmas, she was having a serious conversation with my father about how people just can't see how fox news is the only honest news organization. she's an extremely nice woman, but that pissed me off enough to say something. the debate ended with her saying that the end times are near and there's nothing anybody can say about it.

TheFreak says...

Oh please, please, please, please, please, please, please nominate this man to run for president!

Please, please, please, please, please, please!!!!!!!!

I really want to see this play out.

NetRunner says...

Personally I wonder about how people like Santorum ever passed science classes in school. Did they cheat? Did their teacher not teach them anything about science in their science classes?

Clearly they never got to the point where they understood even the most basic concepts of what science even is...

I have trouble understanding how people can be this ignorant. I mean, how does this happen to people in the first place? Can we prevent it? Can we cure it?

How about the people who will go out, and donate money, volunteer for, and vote for a guy like this? Can they be saved? Can the rest of us be saved from them?

Quboid says...

I hate the "why won't science even debate a Creator?" argument. We've had the debate, and your theory has been found sorely wanting. If you have a new data or new ways of looking at things, then we, as a species, will reconsider your position.

Science isn't a religion. Science isn't the opposite of religion. Science isn't atheism. Science is about looking at things and proving them, and thinking about things that we can't prove one way and acknowledging that we can't prove it - at least not yet.

If you say that a deity created and controls the universe and explains those things we can't prove, I respectfully disagree. If you say that a deity created and controls the universe including doing things differently from we as a species has proven, then I think you're crazy. I believe at least 99% of religious people fall into the first camp.

Fletch says...

>> ^NetRunner:

I have trouble understanding how people can be this ignorant. I mean, how does this happen to people in the first place?
People who believe in God can believe in anygoddamnthing. It doesn't matter if Santorum believes in God himself, as he's playing to a very specific audience of mostly believers. He's says what they want to hear, and he doesn't give a rat's ass that the rest of us see it for the horseshit is it. Religion trumps their lying eyes, ears, and brains every time.



Or... he just might be stupid.

xxovercastxx says...

>> ^NetRunner:

Did their teacher not teach them anything about science in their science classes?


Bingo! School is not about learning; it's about memorizing. If you can regurgitate the teachers' talking points, then you can pass the teachers' tests.

Outside of math class, where they pretty much have to teach you how things work, I learned almost nothing in school. The vast majority of what I know, and I'm a pretty knowledgeable person, is stuff I learned on my own after school was long over.

NetRunner says...

>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^NetRunner:
Did their teacher not teach them anything about science in their science classes?

Bingo! School is not about learning; it's about memorizing. If you can regurgitate the teachers' talking points, then you can pass the teachers' tests.
Outside of math class, where they pretty much have to teach you how things work, I learned almost nothing in school. The vast majority of what I know, and I'm a pretty knowledgeable person, is stuff I learned on my own after school was long over.


That gives me hope that the human race can survive the idiot onslaught, if only we can improve education.

On second thought, we're all doomed.

Ryjkyj says...

>> ^Quboid:

I hate the "why won't science even debate a Creator?" argument. We've had the debate, and your theory has been found sorely wanting.


The debate is still ongoing. Which means everything he's saying is basically a lie.

The thing that bums me out is that everyone is so used to being lied to all the time, that it's not really a point of discussion anymore.

heropsycho says...

If the eventual nominee from the GOP uses that as their argument, it's going to fail spectacularly. I'm open to voting for someone other than Obama, but that's a retarded argument. And the GOP will lose my vote if they nominate Santorum, no questions asked.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Santorum isn't obama. You can't imagine what a huge advantage that is.

Payback says...

The Higgs-Boson is being hidden by God cuz it's His own personal stuff.
There, I explained AND proved it.
Please give me my Nobel and my $Million now, kthxbye.

peggedbea says...

>> ^NetRunner:


How about the people who will go out, and donate money, volunteer for, and vote for a guy like this? Can they be saved? Can the rest of us be saved from them?


i find this really interesting. i have two really, really badass friends. They're eclectic neo pagans. They support gay marriage. They love pre-marital sex. They love kinky sex. They give their children advice on masturbation and safe sex. They are not themselves swingers, but they hang out with lots of them. They smoke pot. They both have master's degrees in health science fields. They decorate their "yule" tree with pentagrams. They're really intelligent, groovy people. and They love Rick Santorum and Sarah Palin. I can't even ask them about it because we made a pact a long time ago that we wouldn't discuss politics. Because it makes our heads explode. BUT THIS MYSTERY IS MAKING MY HEAD WANT TO EXPLODE.

Boise_Lib says...

>> ^solecist:

my grandmother is probably nodding her head knowingly while watching this. she has a signed fucking picture of santorum (the man, not the act) on her wall.
also, while visiting her for christmas, she was having a serious conversation with my father about how people just can't see how fox news is the only honest news organization. she's an extremely nice woman, but that pissed me off enough to say something. the debate ended with her saying that the end times are near and there's nothing anybody can say about it.


I hear you and sympathize. My whole family is like that.

messenger says...

Or, if you accept Shinyblurry's account of events, god created the word, and then 4,000 years later, he created the word again, but in a different way.>> ^lavoll:

it is in the bible.. god created the world.. and then when he was done with that, he created the world again, but in a different way.

messenger says...

Examples like that answer a lot of the questions in this thread like what @NetRunner posed.>> ^solecist:

my grandmother is probably nodding her head knowingly while watching this. she has a signed fucking picture of santorum (the man, not the act) on her wall.
also, while visiting her for christmas, she was having a serious conversation with my father about how people just can't see how fox news is the only honest news organization. she's an extremely nice woman, but that pissed me off enough to say something. the debate ended with her saying that the end times are near and there's nothing anybody can say about it.

lavoll says...

I once had american in-laws of that calibre. I remember the dad in the family angrily ending a discussion about the Balkan war this way: were bombing to prevent those guys from raping them women.
and with this family it was also the first time I heard the term 'book smart', and it was used very condescendingly.

peggedbea says...

i'm familiar with "book smart", it's typical connotation is that you are supposed to have no common sense.
>> ^lavoll:

I once had american in-laws of that calibre. I remember the dad in the family angrily ending a discussion about the Balkan war this way: were bombing to prevent those guys from raping them women.
and with this family it was also the first time I heard the term 'book smart', and it was used very condescendingly.

Xaielao says...

>> ^Boise_Lib:

>> ^solecist:
my grandmother is probably nodding her head knowingly while watching this. she has a signed fucking picture of santorum (the man, not the act) on her wall.
also, while visiting her for christmas, she was having a serious conversation with my father about how people just can't see how fox news is the only honest news organization. she's an extremely nice woman, but that pissed me off enough to say something. the debate ended with her saying that the end times are near and there's nothing anybody can say about it.

I hear you and sympathize. My whole family is like that.


if I grew up in a part of the country where people (or my family) were like that I would have surely blown my freaking head off by the age of 10. Thankfully I live in a part of the country where religion is a personal thing that you don't force, or involve others in accept your own church. They leave the rest of us 'realists' alone.

SuperChikan says...

>> ^ChosenOne:

When someone is talking to me nonsensically I have a tendency to stare at a computer screen and type faster and pretend I'm not in the room also...


I think he's taking notes for Santorum's eventual sanity hearing.

ChaosEngine says...

>> ^Quboid:

I hate the "why won't science even debate a Creator?" argument. We've had the debate, and your theory has been found sorely wanting. If you have a new data or new ways of looking at things, then we, as a species, will reconsider your position.


Have you ever seen one of those debates? They're utterly pointless. The science guys sit around patiently and then the creator never shows up to argue his side. Half of the audience then attribute this as an epic win for the creator.

luxury_pie says...

>> ^peggedbea:

>> ^NetRunner:

How about the people who will go out, and donate money, volunteer for, and vote for a guy like this? Can they be saved? Can the rest of us be saved from them?

i find this really interesting. i have two really, really badass friends. They're eclectic neo pagans. They support gay marriage. They love pre-marital sex. They love kinky sex. They give their children advice on masturbation and safe sex. They are not themselves swingers, but they hang out with lots of them. They smoke pot. They both have master's degrees in health science fields. They decorate their "yule" tree with pentagrams. They're really intelligent, groovy people. and They love Rick Santorum and Sarah Palin. I can't even ask them about it because we made a pact a long time ago that we wouldn't discuss politics. Because it makes our heads explode. BUT THIS MYSTERY IS MAKING MY HEAD WANT TO EXPLODE.


That is the most fucked up thing I read here on videosift.

G-bar says...

I'm trying to think of any other country in the world that shoves that religious nonsense into politics the same way the U.S. does, and I just can't point my finger at one...

ForgedReality says...

He makes up words like "inexplainable," so, sure, why not make up some other shit too? Every time this fucking douchebag opens his mouth, he further proves he doesn't know jack shit about anything.

oOPonyOo says...

I wonder if they long decided to be conservative in their work place and politics to allow for their liberal lifestyle. I often see conservatism in the entertainment industry because of the lucrative pay. It is a sweet job, and with the millions they are thowing at you, you very much don't want to lose it.

oOPonyOo says...

Damn, can I not quote because I am the big red P? Anyways, an attempt above to respond to peggedbea. They sound like very cool people I would like to meet, and even "science" may not explain their politics.

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