I should have worn a bikini in when I was in the airport two days ago, in Salt Lake City.

^You could've told 'em you just completed your mission in Tahiti.

Another pointless blankfist anecdote: I had a gf and her parents were war refugees from Vietnam. When they first came to the States, they didn't speak much English, and the LDS took them in and put them to work. It wasn't long before a LDS member thought it was okay to beat the mother because he didn't like the job she did.

I know, it doesn't really have any relevance to this video, but still... what tools.

Look blankfist, cleaning the windows means cleaning both the inside AND the outside.

Just imagine if Mitt Rommey got to the White House?

I soooo wanted to just toss in one more quote there.

"I'm LDS, I'll believe any whacko who comes up to me with a good story!"

LDS. Quite literally the greatest Con Job EVER in the history of Con Jobs. Anyone can con folks out of money, but conning them out of money, lives and beliefs? That takes something special. Just ask Mr. L. Hubbard, his close second contender. 2 religions that prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that no matter how CRAZY you make something there will *always* be people who can be duped into it.

>> ^blankfist:
Another pointless blankfist anecdote: I had a gf and her parents were war refugees from Vietnam. When they first came to the States, they didn't speak much English, and the LDS took them in and put them to work. It wasn't long before a LDS member thought it was okay to beat the mother because he didn't like the job she did.
I know, it doesn't really have any relevance to this video, but still... what tools.

I've dated a Vietnamese girl too and while her mom didn't deserve a beating, my ex was definitely pushing the limits.

There...now you're not the only one with a useless story. XOXOXOXO

I was actually impressed with most of the responses.
It's not like they're trying to legislate New York City or anything...
I mean, really... How many of you had heard of Kanab before this video?

You surely wouldn't expect to move to an Amish town and demand a TV tower be built in town square would you?
Yet your freedom to do so would be compromised by the religious beliefs of the majority of the people inhabiting that town.

Societies (big and small, villages or cities) are run according to the values of the majority there.
Even the US, as a whole, is mostly run on Christian values because the vast majority of the US considers themselves Christian, or a derivative of.

Anyway, I liked that most were open-minded enough to realise that what they're asking for isn't horrible, and even repealed the ban to a certain extent to satisfy most people.

If any of the founding fathers could hear 1:40 to 2:10 of this video, he would shit a brick.

Cover your ankles, this is a family pool!

Fuck Utah. Fuck it in the Kanab.

You can't wear magic-mormon-underwear if you are wearing a bikini. So thus their reason. No one can remove their magic underwear, otherwise god will ZAP THE HEATHEN DEAD... with his magic sparkly fingers!

>> ^nibiyabi:
If any of the founding fathers could hear 1:40 to 2:10 of this video, he would shit a brick.


What? You don't think the founding fathers wanted us to live in a majority rules democracy where 51% of people tell the other 49% what to do? Surely the Democrats got US history right, no?

At least their children will grow up pure. I'm also glad that churches now have initialisms - keeping up with the trends. LDS sounds like a modern, made up disease... (see what I did there?)

God my family is mormon, needless to say I'm the black sheep in the family. On the surface mormons are nice people but once you get down to it, they are the most ignorant sonsabitches on the planet. They treat science as something that is only relevant if it saves your life. And they have shitty names for their kids.

Anyone else notice they were all white? (To them blacks were neutral in the war in heaven, thats why they're black)

I'm glad that it got repealed and thus this is sort of a moot point. However the the 'we make laws for the majority', where the majority are Mormons (I love how they've taken LDS as their name now, has less negative connotations than Mormon) is a little wrong.

On the face of it, you go... yeah, ok, you make rules that make the majority happy. However, when that impeaches on the rights of others, then it becomes wrong.

Hmmm, although, I was just writing a scenario and I can't see where the difference lies, anyone care to help?

I think most here would say it's fair to say that people are not allowed to swim naked at the pool. Why? Well, because the society that we live in as a whole (ie. the majority) has deemed that it is offensive/uncomfortable for people to be naked around others that don't want it (for right or wrong).

Now... how is that different to them saying that the majority of their citizens would find it offensive/uncomfortable for people to wear bikinis/speedos. I'm not sure of the exact difference here... anyone?

I honestly didn't expect such reasonable responses that I would have had respect for.

* blocked.

I fully support bans on bikinis and speedos if the people wearing them are old, fat, and/or butt ugly.

Youtards

LDS - Leotard Disabled Society

I have pretty much no opinion on the matter at hand, but I do find it amusing that there is a mormon town named Kanab, the Persian word for cannabis...

You americans. I tell ya.

Hang on a second.. at the start of the video it says : "On July 4, 2008, the city of Kanab, Utah opened a
new city pool to the public. This pool has a unique rule: No bikinis, no speedos (presumably no banana-hammocks)."

BUT then at the end of the video it says: "Just days before the pool opened, the council voted to repeal the bikini ban."

wtf

>> ^Issykitty:
I should have worn a bikini in when I was in the airport two days ago, in Salt Lake City.


Nobody would have cared. Kanab is on the other side of the state. The center of Utah leans to the left. As I tell my friends visiting SLC: SLC is fine, just don't visit the surrounding areas (I'm looking at you, Provo).

Better hope they do not find out everyone is naked under their bathing suits!

Also thanks for making me remember this great clip!

Religion... telling women they are fundamentally dirty since... well... since we've had religion.

This is blocked in the UK. Can someone * blocked it or find an unblocked source?

I know plenty of LDS people when I lived in San Diego. To a person they were polite, respectful of other beliefs, honest, hard working, and productive. I've traveled to Salt Lake many times and the people there were no different. As with any population, you probably have some bad apples in the barrel, but by and large people who are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are good folk. It demeans the discourse of the Sift (if such a thing is possible) for some of you to use such coarse, boorish, small-minded, and bigoted language to stereotype a people that are generally good. Point out foibles of misguided individuals and how they mis-represent the majority if you feel it helpful, but to lambaste the people as a whole tells more about your own jackassery than theirs.

I wonder:

- how modest is forced modesty?
- how modest is it to force others to wear something according to your beliefs?
- how modest is it to allow only one sex to show off their upper body?
- how far-fetched is it to expect that the members of one group that is a minority almost everywhere in the world, not be so reticent to minority's freedoms, and not uphold the idea of a "closed community"?
- how about a public pool where bikinis would be enforced, perhaps in a town where the majority decides they are uncomfortable seeing the covered minority?
- how interesting it is that this reminds of totalitarian systems and religious states...

Ah, liberté, égalité, fraternité...

ioa

LDS, like 99.9% of the faithful, are nice and good people, when they aren't acting as a group. As individuals it's hard to find fault in the behaviors of any religious person. The problem is when you get a handful of them together and they decide to start enforcing their beliefs on anyone that doesn't conform to their beliefs.

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The only person that really bothers me in this video is Jerrol...

"We're a close-knit community. I think we really have to be careful with what we do in our new pool."
Being close-knit is related to swimwear how, exactly?

"We [...] are a modest people."
If you're all so modest, why do you need the ordinance?

Bravo to Sandi for stating, plainly and clearly, what should have been obvious. Open a privately owned Mormon pool if bare bellies get your magic underwear in such a bunch.

>> ^pho3n1x:
...You surely wouldn't expect to move to an Amish town and demand a TV tower be built in town square would you...
Ahh, but there's a difference. The Amish would never stop you from building a television tower because they do not believe in forcing their own beliefs on others. This is what the issue really is about.

Instead of thinking about this in terms of LDS creating dress codes in Utah, try juxtaposing the idea. How about Catholics making laws about what type of artwork is acceptable Jewish council members making laws concerning what foods can be eaten. It doesn't take much to understand why seperation of church and state is important.

Ahh, but there's a difference.
I agree, but that's the only good analogy I could come up with at the time.

I suppose it would have been better to have made it some kind of recommendation, or please consider others type of deal rather than an ordinance, and it seems like the city council fellow at the beginning readily took the blame for not reading it thoroughly enough in the first place.

or, like overcast said, make it a private facility with 'club rules' like there is in covenant housing.

Dress appropriate because one day you'll be dead and you dont want to be punished.

still *blocked, can some one who isn't as dumbly restricted as myself invoke this?

Invocations (blocked) cannot be called by Kerotan because Kerotan is not privileged - sorry.

I actually think that guy has a point about bikinis being as revealing as a bra and panties. It is a blatant double standard. And that's exactly why women who care about liberty need to finally stand up, strip down, and go outside. The tyranny of layered clothing must end.

Mormons believe that the body is a temple, which is why they're not allowed to drink alcohol, consume caffeine, "hot drinks", tobacco, etc. (although junk food, and pretty much any legal drug is ok).

Why then, I wonder, is it such a horrible thing to see it? They've got no problem erecting those huge god-awful temples all over the place, so their membership can go there to get married (for $$$$$) and buy their way into heaven.

Can't someone put a sweatshirt on those fucking things? Their massively engorged steeples cause impure stirrings in my loins.

assuming it hasn't been fixed yet, *blocked.

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There is no difference in my mind between a ban on bikinis and a ban on public nudity. As a society, we force each other to cover up. To what degree we must cover our natural gifts is determined by the community we live in.

If we truly were free, we could walk around naked with no fear of reprisal. If you are not ok with nudity, then you should have no problem taking it a little further and saying bikinis don't always cover enough. And that goes double for speedos.

Personally, I have no problem with a stricter dress code at a public facility. If they try to tell me girls can't walk around my private pool naked, then we will have a problem.

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

That and wanting to minimize the amount of pubic hairs and fecal matter on all of our chairs. But mostly the thing you said.

Oh god, just now watching this. As you guys may remember, my family is Mormon, so I totally can see this. The comments all the Mormons made made me lol a lot.

I'm gonna go way out on a limb here and say that, in many cases, I actually find bikinis ridiculously revealing... the girls may as well be naked. I'm honestly stunned in many cases that a girl who would never strip or walk around in her underwear in front of people is perfectly happy to wear a bikini and prance around in what may as well be skimpy underwear.

I actually get more turned on by a hot girl in a one-piece than a bikini. But then again I don't know if I've seen anyone under 35 years or 140lbs wear a one-piece in a long time (since a GF in the 90s used to).