In related news... Joe Arpaio, the reporters in this piece, the Tea Partyers, Mike Zullo, and the submitter of this video are all morons.

I've seeked the advice of experts. And you're an asshole.

>> ^therealblankman:

In related news... Joe Arpaio, the reporters in this piece, the Tea Partyers, Mike Zullo, and the submitter of this video are all morons.


>> ^PoweredBySoy:

I've seeked the advice of experts. And you're an asshole.


Listen here, Soy Latte. I've been a user of this site since the first day of its existence- now over 6 years ago. I've submitted hundreds of videos, voted thousands of times, made many hundreds of upvoted comments and banned dozens of probies.

Take anyone who has been here as long and contributed as much as I have and ask them about me. They'll tell you that I am indeed an asshole.

Doesn't make me wrong though.

how curious... just in time for the elections. What a load of fucking idiots.

>> ^PoweredBySoy:

I've seeked the advice of experts. And you're an asshole.


But he's a correct asshole.

Nothing new here.

Complete Arizona press conference with their detailed "results":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w0SVOwWGjw

Snopes debunk of the whole thing (see lower section):
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/birthcertificate.asp

What's amazing to me is seeing a local news station so clearly co-opted by extremist views (and Arpaio's influence). I mean, I know it's a Fox affiliate, but the way this report is presented - complete with straight faced local anchors, an on-the-scene-reporter, and law enforcement collaboration - is positively Orwellian.

Many realize Fox (cable channel) has a political viewpoint (even those that agree with it). But not everyone who watches their local news broadcast realizes it can be this falsified.

Chilling.

Obama's SSN fails E-Verify.

I'm waiting to hear the official reason for that one.

Are you kidding? That's not news! Joe Arpaio especially is a f[deleted]!!! Sorry for the rant.>> ^therealblankman:

In related news... Joe Arpaio, the reporters in this piece, the Tea Partyers, Mike Zullo, and the submitter of this video are all morons.

Politicians don't care about laws and policies. They are only in effect to control the underlying populations. They don't care if the certificate real or not. We will never find out because they won't seriously address it. Why should they, he's already in the chair.

It is possible he is a fake. What does it matter? They don't care and they make the rules. Do people really think that they can complain and the people in power will bow down?

Power breads corruption and corruption just breads more of the same.
Remember, Life will be better for all of us if we just sit in our basements and surf the internet, complaining amongst ourselves while never leaving our chairs - Ya, that'll teach em!

>> ^quantumushroom:

Obama's SSN fails E-Verify.
I'm waiting to hear the official reason for that one.


You and your tea party buddies can keep thinking you're right, but remember this. Obama will never be thrown out of office because of a Birth Certificate dispute, especially not a made up one.

Sorry, do not pass go, find something else.

Id rather be a moron standing in the light of truth that an fool in darkness with his head up is ass. >> ^therealblankman:

In related news... Joe Arpaio, the reporters in this piece, the Tea Partyers, Mike Zullo, and the submitter of this video are all morons.

>> ^bobknight33:

Id rather be a moron standing in the light of truth that an fool in darkness with his head up is ass. >> ^therealblankman:
In related news... Joe Arpaio, the reporters in this piece, the Tea Partyers, Mike Zullo, and the submitter of this video are all morons.



Obama: "Thanks asshole; do I come to wherever you work and knock the cocks outa your mouth!?"

Anyone who has to get a Top Secret security clearance knows how much info they demand. Then the FBI follows up on that info with interviews and fact checking. I could not get a clearance if I lied about one thing. The president is put under a microscope by the security agencies of the US. He would not even be allowed near the oval office if he did not check out. I mean really.

>> ^Encumberance:

Anyone who has to get a Top Secret security clearance knows how much info they demand. Then the FBI follows up on that info with interviews and fact checking. I could not get a clearance if I lied about one thing. The president is put under a microscope by the security agencies of the US. He would not even be allowed near the oval office if he did not check out. I mean really.


but youre forgetting the FBI NSA and the CIA are all in on it! ANARCHY ANARCHY

>> ^therealblankman:

>> ^therealblankman:
In related news... Joe Arpaio, the reporters in this piece, the Tea Partyers, Mike Zullo, and the submitter of this video are all morons.

>> ^PoweredBySoy:
I've seeked the advice of experts. And you're an asshole.

Listen here, Soy Latte. I've been a user of this site since the first day of its existence- now over 6 years ago. I've submitted hundreds of videos, voted thousands of times, made many hundreds of upvoted comments and banned dozens of probies.
Take anyone who has been here as long and contributed as much as I have and ask them about me. They'll tell you that I am indeed an asshole.
Doesn't make me wrong though.


Well, my remark wasn't in response to you, but the video. Or whoever posted the video. Or whoever appeared in this video. Or whoever still believes this. Or if your name is Quantummushroom.

That said, I now love you.

joe arpaio had his authority to identify illegal immigrants stripped from him, is infamous for racial profiling, among other things, and is just an all around jackass. sounds like a subject matter expert on obamas birth certificate to me. fucking idiots

Isn't this some kind of treason if you actively provoke a possibly trust-shattering dispute about the president's validity?

I love the way blondie was about to make some sort of comparison, "..the biggest scandal perpetrated on the American people...urmm, urmm....". I'm sure the word "since" was going to follow and I'd love to know what it was going to be. Was it 9/11 as an inside job, faked moon landings, Roswell, what?

Maybe we can't all agree if Obama is actually a citizen or not. But can we all at least unite in the fact that we would bone Heather Moore?

*controversy

Adding video to channels (Controversy) - requested by MrFisk.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'Birth Certificate, Obama, Politics' to 'Birth Certificate, Obama, Politics, tea party, joe arpaio, omg' - edited by MrFisk

What the fuck is it with these republicans - Bush & Cheney get a swift pass on war-crimes like waterboarding untrialled detainees. & Clinton is impeached for a blowjob - And Obama's really a secret Muslim. WTF REPUBLICANS.

This is the dumbest sift I've seen all day and that's saying a lot after watching Total Recall's remake teaser "trailer"...

How did Fox get into this? I'm seeing a report done by a CBS affiliate. Also, wtf Arizona?

>> ^littledragon_79:

How did Fox get into this? I'm seeing a report done by a CBS affiliate. Also, wtf Arizona?


I was the one who thought it was Fox. Now that I see it's a local CBS station, I'm even more shocked they broadcast this. Who's pulling the strings over there?

I do have to wonder why this is getting so many upvotes if it's a bunch of bullshit

I would gather we all have downloaded this birth certificate and looked at in in illustrator and such and have suspicion of authenticity. This is just another story that has dug deeper than you and I and have come up with more conclusive clarity that is a bogus.

With being they case then this would indeed need to come to light and a fully open investigation should take place. For if indeed this is true than Obama could resubmit a real document and be done with it. Or on the other case if he can not prove in citizenship then he would have to step down and let Biden become president

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Don't worry kids, Quantum Mushroom is still in there as well, go figure!!

They are using the same false logic as before. When you scan an image, you don't get layers. When you scan a document as an image, you don't get layers... but when you scan a document with software that turns it into a searchable PDF, it does create layers.>> ^bobknight33:

I would gather we all have downloaded this birth certificate and looked at in in illustrator and such and have suspicion of authenticity. This is just another story that has dug deeper than you and I and have come up with more conclusive clarity that is a bogus.

>> ^therealblankman:


Doesn't make me wrong though.


Misread your comment -- thought you were supporting this birth certificate nonsense.

fuck, these birthers are stupid.

Can you believe they spent thousands of hours with computer experts and still didn't figure out that a document scanned to be searchable will come out with layers?

Me neither. It's either another setup, or both sides are wagging the dog.>> ^HugeJerk:

They are using the same false logic as before. When you scan an image, you don't get layers. When you scan a document as an image, you don't get layers... but when you scan a document with software that turns it into a searchable PDF, it does create layers.>> ^bobknight33:
I would gather we all have downloaded this birth certificate and looked at in in illustrator and such and have suspicion of authenticity. This is just another story that has dug deeper than you and I and have come up with more conclusive clarity that is a bogus.

>> ^Darkhand:

Maybe we can't all agree if Obama is actually a citizen or not. But can we all at least unite in the fact that we would bone Heather Moore?


I'm gonna' have to go with "No" on this one.

Heather Moore is hot though. And "Volunteer Investigators".......wonder if they can get some of the experts they consulted with to come forward and put their face on camera claiming these things.

I would love it if Obama just said "Hey Arizona...wanna be given to Mexico?" And watch them shut up and kick that Sheriff outa office fast as fuck.

Downvote stupid: the video, and especially for the title.

>> ^vaire2ube:

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Don't worry kids, Quantum Mushroom is still in there as well, go figure!!


Please don't include QM with that list. Of all of them, QM doesn't argumentum ad hominem. He might be out to lunch, but it's a classy lunch.

shocking!!!!
how did obama get the hawaiian state government to do his bidding, releasing and verifying his birth record???
maybe he promised them 99 virgins?

>> ^VoodooV:

I do have to wonder why this is getting so many upvotes if it's a bunch of bullshit


I upvoted this video because I think it is fucking funny.
I love to laugh at these morons.
Yes, this is the worst kind of "Yellow Journalism"
--but, if I didn't laugh I'd have to cry.

Forget what the rest of these commies say, bob, I think this is an excellent issue for you to champion. It in no way robs you of credibility in the eyes of the average person. Shout it from the rooftops.

Look at it this way. Doubling down on stupid like this is just hastening their demise. I live in a red state and I work with a lot of Republicans and more and more of them are just fed up with this ludicrous bullshit. They have no love for Obama, but the feel alienated from their own party because NONE of them buy into this insanity.

Shit like this will either be the end of the conservative movement in the US, or it will finally drive rational Republicans to take their party back from the whackos.

This nonsense is just guaranteeing Obama's win in November. Maybe you don't agree with Obama, but odds are, you won't buy into this charade so it just drives them away from Republicans.

How much you want to bet that NONE of the remaining GOP candidates will touch this with a 10 foot pole. Even they're not that stupid.

I needed a laugh.

I'm feeling the Love.

>> ^vaire2ube:

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My dad... Vietnam veteran and lifelong Republican says he won't vote for any of the current Republican candidates. He told me "They've tossed out any sort of common sense or common decency to secure the votes of paranoid idiots.">> ^VoodooV:

Look at it this way. Doubling down on stupid like this is just hastening their demise. I live in a red state and I work with a lot of Republicans and more and more of them are just fed up with this ludicrous bullshit. They have no love for Obama, but the feel alienated from their own party because NONE of them buy into this insanity.

>> ^Payback:

>> ^vaire2ube:
BillO or Choggy
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as Bobknight33
Here on Psychos Of the Sift.
Don't worry kids, Quantum Mushroom is still in there as well, go figure!!

Please don't include QM with that list. Of all of them, QM doesn't argumentum ad hominem. He might be out to lunch, but it's a classy lunch.


where have you been? QM argues Ad homs all the time. It's his bread and butter.

>> ^VoodooV:

>> ^Payback:
>> ^vaire2ube:
BillO or Choggy
starring as Winstonfield_Pennypacker
as Bobknight33
Here on Psychos Of the Sift.
Don't worry kids, Quantum Mushroom is still in there as well, go figure!!

Please don't include QM with that list. Of all of them, QM doesn't argumentum ad hominem. He might be out to lunch, but it's a classy lunch.

where have you been? QM argues Ad homs all the time. It's his bread and butter.


Show me a post where he tries to deflect what you say by attacking you personally. That's what ad Hominem is. Attempting to discredit someone to win an argument, rather than debating their view.

VoodooV: I believe (place anti-rightwing-wacko argument here).
QuantumM: Your feet stink. Look everyone! VoodooV's feet stink!

I'm sure I could probably find one if I looked hard enough, but it's not me that QM does his ad homs to. It's anything associated with the left or especially the man in your avatar pic. Or have you forgotten his favorite nickname for Obama? I have yet to see QM make a rational argument in regards to politics without resorting to a strawman or an ad hom or some form of logical fallacy
>> ^Payback:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Payback:
>> ^vaire2ube:
BillO or Choggy
starring as Winstonfield_Pennypacker
as Bobknight33
Here on Psychos Of the Sift.
Don't worry kids, Quantum Mushroom is still in there as well, go figure!!

Please don't include QM with that list. Of all of them, QM doesn't argumentum ad hominem. He might be out to lunch, but it's a classy lunch.

where have you been? QM argues Ad homs all the time. It's his bread and butter.

Show me a post where he tries to deflect what you say by attacking you personally. That's what ad Hominem is. Attempting to discredit someone to win an argument, rather than debating their view.
VoodooV: I believe (place anti-rightwing-wacko argument here).
QuantumM: Your feet stink. Look everyone! VoodooV's feet stink!

Oh, believe me, I know his "Kenyawaiian" schitck by heart. As "The Obamanation" isn't here as a participant, I guess I am just drawing too fine a line, but I have yet, in recent memory, to see QM attack someone personally for their views.

However... HE gets attacked, ad hominem, CONSTANTLY.

Also, the others on your list barely contribute BEYOND their political rhetoric. QM comes up with some brilliant, actual-lol-worthy AND NON-POLITICAL comments quite often. I guess that's his saving grace with me, his sense of humour.

>> ^VoodooV:

I'm sure I could probably find one if I looked hard enough, but it's not me that QM does his ad homs to. It's anything associated with the left or especially the man in your avatar pic. Or have you forgotten his favorite nickname for Obama? I have yet to see QM make a rational argument in regards to politics without resorting to a strawman or an ad hom or some form of logical fallacy
>> ^Payback:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Payback:
>> ^vaire2ube:
BillO or Choggy
starring as Winstonfield_Pennypacker
as Bobknight33
Here on Psychos Of the Sift.
Don't worry kids, Quantum Mushroom is still in there as well, go figure!!

Please don't include QM with that list. Of all of them, QM doesn't argumentum ad hominem. He might be out to lunch, but it's a classy lunch.

where have you been? QM argues Ad homs all the time. It's his bread and butter.

Show me a post where he tries to deflect what you say by attacking you personally. That's what ad Hominem is. Attempting to discredit someone to win an argument, rather than debating their view.
VoodooV: I believe (place anti-rightwing-wacko argument here).
QuantumM: Your feet stink. Look everyone! VoodooV's feet stink!

It's not my list, (though it tends to be accurate) But that's exactly why I'm calling for more active moderation on this site. I'm sick of the logical fallacies. When it goes unchecked, you get people who fed up and fire back. So it cuts both ways. It stops QM from making his ad homs and it stops people from making ad homs against him. Win win.

I'm also sick of EVERY GODDAMNED THING being turned into a left v right shitfest. I consider myself to be a left leaning centrist and I think both parties are full of shit (sure I think one party is more full of shit than the other, but that's not really the point) but I think the founding fathers were right to not like parties and this two party system is killing this country.

Quite frankly though, if someone makes some quality posts, you don't earn the right to make some ad homs and otherwise make some shitty posts. if someone ad homs you, you don't get to ad hom them. It's not a tit for tat system.
>> ^Payback:

Oh, believe me, I know his "Kenyawaiian" schitck by heart. As "The Obamanation" isn't here as a participant, I guess I am just drawing too fine a line, but I have yet, in recent memory, to see QM attack someone personally for their views.
However... HE gets attacked, ad hominem, CONSTANTLY.
Also, the others on your list barely contribute BEYOND their political rhetoric. QM comes up with some brilliant, actual-lol-worthy AND NON-POLITICAL comments quite often. I guess that's his saving grace with me, his sense of humour.
>> ^VoodooV:
I'm sure I could probably find one if I looked hard enough, but it's not me that QM does his ad homs to. It's anything associated with the left or especially the man in your avatar pic. Or have you forgotten his favorite nickname for Obama? I have yet to see QM make a rational argument in regards to politics without resorting to a strawman or an ad hom or some form of logical fallacy
>> ^Payback:
>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^Payback:
>> ^vaire2ube:
BillO or Choggy
starring as Winstonfield_Pennypacker
as Bobknight33
Here on Psychos Of the Sift.
Don't worry kids, Quantum Mushroom is still in there as well, go figure!!

Please don't include QM with that list. Of all of them, QM doesn't argumentum ad hominem. He might be out to lunch, but it's a classy lunch.

where have you been? QM argues Ad homs all the time. It's his bread and butter.

Show me a post where he tries to deflect what you say by attacking you personally. That's what ad Hominem is. Attempting to discredit someone to win an argument, rather than debating their view.
VoodooV: I believe (place anti-rightwing-wacko argument here).
QuantumM: Your feet stink. Look everyone! VoodooV's feet stink!

They keep saying they proved it, but they don't show anything - where's your evidence?

>> ^gwiz665:

They keep saying they proved it, but they don't show anything - where's your evidence?


Proof??

Where we're going we don't need roads! er.....proof!

We have unnamed experts!

Not read it yet, but here's the report

http://www.scribd.com/doc/83402478/Ma-Raze-Best-Report

>> ^gwiz665:

Not read it yet, but here's the report
http://www.scribd.com/doc/83402478/Ma-Raze-Best-Report


Looked at it, found the presentation to be lots of arrows pointing at things that look like printer errors, document touchups, scanner errors, crap on the document when it was scanned, or whatever else.

They apparently have like 3 different versions of it on different kinds of paper, blah blah.

Until they can take more time and explain it better, it looks like meaningless BS presented as solid proof. I'd like to think if they are going to edit up a bunch of documents, they'd at least make them all the same and not spell THE as TXE in one version. Oh and put a smiley face on the signature, because nothing says proof like a weird smiley face that looks like two pen stop marks.

Next it'll be they tested his blood and detected no American in it.
It's like midichlorians but makes you crazy over time as you drink bad moonshine and eat tainted possum.