What did Reagan think about the right to vote?

newtboysays...

*quality reminder of what real republicans looked like once upon a time. *promote

Just waiting for @bobknight33 to claim Reagan was a RINO, only Trump, a pro choice Democrat at the time and for decades after, is a true Republican despite being against everything Republicans historically stood for.

siftbotsays...

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bobknight33says...

Most Republicans do care.

That's why they are blocking the Democrat fuckery voting laws.

Only Legal voters get to vote.
Have valid ID.

Both sides cheat.


The true question is Why don't Americans want a honest vote system in place?

StukaFoxsays...

Bob,

I agree with your points below, but the limiting polling places, inserting partisanship into vote counting, assaulting the integrity of the process and subjecting poll workers to death threats isn't creating a "honest vote system", it's degrading the most fundamental principle of democracy.

If you really believed in voting honesty, you'd be railing against the Electoral College.

bobknight33said:

Only Legal voters get to vote.
Have valid ID.

Both sides cheat.


The true question is Why don't Americans want a honest vote system in place?

newtboysays...

Most republicans CLAIM they believe multiple ineligible voters voted and had their votes counted despite ALL evidence to the contrary and not a single case of non citizen Democratic voting nor a single case of Democrats voting twice, but many from Republicans including one guy who murdered his wife to use her vote to vote for Trump and a judge who cast his dead wife's ballot, then there's the multiple Republican candidates who collected ballots from the elderly and filled them out, casting votes for themselves by the thousands, and the fake ballot boxes set up by Republicans that continued after secretaries of state demanded be removed because they are specifically prohibited by law (and that allowed Republicans to sift through votes and discard Democratic ballots). Republicans do not care about securing non Republican votes anymore, Trump removed the last vestige of that patriotic civic feature from your group. Today's Republicans want to discard over half the legal votes for no reason besides they aren't for their candidate, liar.

Remember when Trump admitted that if every citizen voted, no Republican would ever be elected again? That's an admission they can only win by cheating straight from the cheater in chief's mouth....an admission that legal voters don't vote Republican, only by denying millions their constitutional rights AND cheating AND gerrymandering can Republicans win at all....Trump said it.

Let's have 5 cases of actual, prosecuted Democratic vote fraud cases from the last three elections, I can show you hundreds of times more than that from Republicans....thousands more. Liar. I know for certain you couldn't come up with two if I gave you one as a freebie.

There are no Democratic fucker laws, but hundreds of Republican fucker laws that discourage and block legal votes from poor and black areas and people, you claim it's to secure the vote against frauds while you have zero evidence any ever existed in the populations these laws target, blocking and denying millions of votes to fight a crime that doesn't exist except in Republican circles and Republican delusions. You believe they're all Democrat votes, so you don't care if they're legal voters being disenfranchised, liar.

Denying a legal vote has exactly the same effect as allowing an illegal one....which party wants to deny legal votes, Bob? Hint, it's the same party caught thousands of times recently casting illegal and/or tampered with votes AND discarding thousands of votes for Democrats. Liar.

Provide ID for free in the communities you insist must have them, not only available at the DMV 25+ miles away with no bus service going there, then and only then would it be even partially proper to enact laws to require them, or require a free voter ID that every citizen has the same access to and the same difficulties getting, so no online application, no phone application, stand in line at a DMV at least one county removed from your address. Republicans blocked a national voter ID, because it's not about ID, it's about denying legal voters in Democratic populations.

All illegal votes were Republican illegal vote frauds for Trump, every single one found. If illegal voting was a real concern, voting laws would target Republicans, not Democrats. They absolutely don't, and recordings of Republican leaders prove it was never about illegal votes and always about suppressing Democrat voters. Liar.

The true question is how are Republicans getting away with election interference at a massive scale, rigging elections nation wide while dishonestly claiming they're "securing the vote" but really they're securing it in Republican gerrymandered districts for Republicans, not ensuring every legal vote counts but instead denying any vote they question....which are only Democratic votes despite the long history of Republican frauds, rigging the system so they're "winning" elections with 10% fewer votes than their opponents, and threatening murders and civil war when y'all lose. Crybaby liar.

Republicans absolutely don't want an honest vote system in place because republicans cannot win honest, fair elections. Democrats tried dozens of times to pass laws securing elections, creating physical records of every vote, securing machines against tampering, even creating a (free) national voter ID, etc...Republicans obstructed every one without considering them at all because not allowing democrats a victory is far more important to y'all than securing elections or making them fair or honest.

bobknight33said:

Most Republicans do care.

That's why they are blocking the Democrat fuckery voting laws.

Only Legal voters get to vote.
Have valid ID.

Both sides cheat.


The true question is Why don't Americans want a honest vote system in place?

luxintenebrisjokingly says...

The sunset from bob's boulevard.

bobknight33said:

Most Republicans do care.

That's why they are blocking the Democrat fuckery voting laws.

Only Legal voters get to vote.
Have valid ID.

Both sides cheat.

The true question is Why don't Americans want a honest vote system in place?

* * * * * in other words * * * * *

You see, this is my life. It always will be. There's nothing else - just us and the cameras and those wonderful people out there in the dark...

All right, Mr. DeMille, I'm ready for my closeup.

luxintenebrissays...

A quick summary of the HR1 'duckery'...

This bill addresses voter access, election integrity and security, campaign finance, and ethics for the three branches of government.

Specifically, the bill expands voter registration (e.g., automatic and same-day registration) and voting access (e.g., vote-by-mail and early voting). It also limits removing voters from voter rolls.

The bill requires states to establish independent redistricting commissions to carry out congressional redistricting.

Additionally, the bill sets forth provisions related to election security, including sharing intelligence information with state election officials, supporting states in securing their election systems, developing a national strategy to protect U.S. democratic institutions, establishing in the legislative branch the National Commission to Protect United States Democratic Institutions, and other provisions to improve the cybersecurity of election systems.

Further, the bill addresses campaign finance, including by expanding the prohibition on campaign spending by foreign nationals, requiring additional disclosure of campaign-related fundraising and spending, requiring additional disclaimers regarding certain political advertising, and establishing an alternative campaign funding system for certain federal offices.

The bill addresses ethics in all three branches of government, including by requiring a code of conduct for Supreme Court Justices, prohibiting Members of the House from serving on the board of a for-profit entity, and establishing additional conflict-of-interest and ethics provisions for federal employees and the White House.

The bill requires the President, the Vice President, and certain candidates for those offices to disclose 10 years of tax returns.

...what is so offensive? where is the downside?

sounds more than fair, honest and these Americans are pushing for an honest voting system. where's your evidence there's any 'duckery' in the bill... 🦜 bob

bobknight33says...

The Electoral College is a great idea. It levels the playing field across all states.

As you stated""" inserting partisanship into vote counting, assaulting the integrity of the process and subjecting poll workers to death threats isn't creating a "honest vote system", it's degrading the most fundamental principle of democracy.""

That is what happens to conservatives in major democrat cities during the counting. Glad we are on the same page.

StukaFoxsaid:

Bob,

I agree with your points below, but the limiting polling places, inserting partisanship into vote counting, assaulting the integrity of the process and subjecting poll workers to death threats isn't creating a "honest vote system", it's degrading the most fundamental principle of democracy.

If you really believed in voting honesty, you'd be railing against the Electoral College.

newtboysays...

Bob, these are ALL right wing ploys, not left. Now you're so far gone you people are "auditing" votes using a company built on the big lie, a lie they started trying to sell in 2018 but couldn't gain traction with until 2020.

98/100 death threats were by "conservatives" (a misnomer) against democrats, independents, and even Republicans that refused to ignore the law and or lie for Trump....like Pence who you idiots still think had the power to just install Trump as president. Yes, there were a few against Republicans, usually after they announced they would break the law or support the big lie using taxpayer's money, but they were by far the minority. It's pretty insane you would complain, since Trumpsters have made that a feature of right wing American politics for 5 years now, including dozens to hundreds of actual attempts at kidnapping and murder not including Jan 6.
It's like you were complaining that a few Democrats are fat, prejudiced, ignorant, and uneducated....or another way of saying that is you're bitching only because you don't like the competition, not because you don't like death threats.

bobknight33said:

As you stated""" inserting partisanship into vote counting, assaulting the integrity of the process and subjecting poll workers to death threats isn't creating a "honest vote system", it's degrading the most fundamental principle of democracy.""

That is what happens to conservatives in major democrat cities during the counting. Glad we are on the same page.

StukaFoxsays...

Bob,

The Electoral College is the opposite of what you're saying you want: a fair vote. Aren't you for "one person, one equal vote"?

"That is what happens to conservatives in major democrat cities during the counting. "

I don't understand the point you're trying to make here? It can be read a lot of different ways. If you'd like to clarify, I'd appreciate it.

bobknight33said:

The Electoral College is a great idea. It levels the playing field across all states.

As you stated""" inserting partisanship into vote counting, assaulting the integrity of the process and subjecting poll workers to death threats isn't creating a "honest vote system", it's degrading the most fundamental principle of democracy.""

That is what happens to conservatives in major democrat cities during the counting. Glad we are on the same page.

newtboysays...

For the 27th time, do you have any actual evidence of that, or just some partisan liars flapping their gums, jealous and bitter over losing historically. No? Thought not.

So then....Why won't republicans accept an honest vote count?

Arizona finished ANOTHER recount, the Republican recount of Maricopa county finished last week, but because it had the same results as the first one, the second one, and the third, Trump lost big time, Republicans are already planning another one....the problem, all the voting machines are now officially invalidated because cyber ninja tampered with them during their second (or is it the third) audit, and they are no longer secure or unadulterated. They cannot even be used in the future because it's impossible to know what they've done or how they tampered with the software and hardware. I must assume this was the plan all along, keep recounting and auditing until they digitally change the votes, and only then accept their own recounts..

So, again, the true question is, why won't Republicans accept a mostly honest vote system they themselves put in place and ran and they themselves certified nationwide repeatedly? Why won't you accept the results of multiple counts and audits that all come to the same conclusion, the counts are valid and there was no significant fraud.

bobknight33said:

Both sides cheat.


The true question is Why don't Americans want a honest vote system in place?

newtboysays...

Trump answered that for you unambiguously... it's because Republicans can't win with an honest voting system in place, not a single race. That's why Republicans don't want an honest vote system in place.

The true question is, Why don't Republicans want to investigate Jan 6?
The answer is painfully obvious....because most Republican representatives were complicit in the coup attempt, and any investigation will prove they had prior knowledge of the attack and supported it fully. They weren't smart about hiding their involvement, they tweeted it in public tweets, including tweeting out Pelosi's location to the armed insurrectionists in real time, and likely worse. It will also expose Trump's actions that day, something he absolutely cannot let happen.

bobknight33said:

The true question is Why don't Americans want a honest vote system in place?

robdotsays...

Reagan had the most corrupt administration in history . Only to be outdone by trump. Google it. He was also a senile old man who barely knew where he was. We made Star Wars,because he saw it in a movie. Even though everyone said it wouldn’t work,and it never has.

luxintenebrissays...

in theory, it parades as a masterful, sensible insurancer of fairness: in reality, it's just a hot mess. not a fan. never a fan.

w and eric's dad are two examples of why it is a catalyst for disaster.

in history: the EC killed Reconstruction. hastened the '08 crash. '20: led to the Turd Reich and the beer belly Putsch.

easy enough to see.

'tho tomorrow when Kamala wins* over the next GOP [won't be 'landslide' lard-doh] Gallo in the EC - the right will suddenly become aware of its perils - and had always warned us against it.

*a woman, black, and Asian. might just get US healthcare reform. 'specially after all the apoplectic fits on the right, they'll want someone else to foot their bills.

bobknight33said:

The Electoral College is a great idea. It levels the playing field across all states.

noseeemjokingly says...

Although I'd agree that Reagan's administration was engrained with corruption, there is some serious competition from Nixon. *

Also just seems to be the nature of the Beast. Nixon, Reagan, Bush Jr., and Orange-U-Glad-I-Ain't-President. All involved with numerous scandals, corrupt Administrators, and some serious charges of being war criminals in the mix as well.

Almost unavoidable when Republicans come to power. As Rumsfeld noted, you go to war with the army you have.

*Tea Pot Dome Scandal in the 20th Century running also.

robdotsaid:

Reagan had the most corrupt administration in history . Only to be outdone by trump. Google it. He was also a senile old man who barely knew where he was. We made Star Wars,because he saw it in a movie. Even though everyone said it wouldn’t work,and it never has.

newtboysays...

Not really.
Nixon tried to cover up a crime he wasn’t actually involved in….dumb, criminal, immoral, and wholly unpresidential….but compared to Iran Contra, it’s like he took two pennies from the take a penny cup. Not even the same league.

noseeemsaid:

Although I'd agree that Reagan's administration was engrained with corruption, there is some serious competition from Nixon. *

Also just seems to be the nature of the Beast. Nixon, Reagan, Bush Jr., and Orange-U-Glad-I-Ain't-President. All involved with numerous scandals, corrupt Administrators, and some serious charges of being war criminals in the mix as well.

Almost unavoidable when Republicans come to power. As Rumsfeld noted, you go to war with the army you have.

*Tea Pot Dome Scandal in the 20th Century running also.

luxintenebrissays...

I would say really.

As a man, president and his administration...
- ordered an attack on the Brookings Institution
- 13 of the 'president's men' jailed (2 were A.G.s)
- Agnew resigned after allegations of bribery* (as governor) led to a conviction on tax fraud.
- "Townhouse Operation" crime wave itself
- Associated Milk Producers Inc, IT&T...even the Checkers thing foreshadowed all the sketchy 'campaign donations'

...and the Vietnam peace talks affair was in the same league as Eric's dad's 1st impeachment charge ('tho not as president)...if pushed to support 'how bad was bad' remember Nixon put marijuana on the schedule one drug list, essentially to criminalize blacks, was a much much larger crime to humanity. emptied the penny jar and a twenty from the till, if you will.

But I get your point.

[Hardin administration was pretty awful too]


* something his former lawyer said he admitted went on "for a thousand years"

newtboysaid:

Not really.
Nixon tried to cover up a crime he wasn’t actually involved in….dumb, criminal, immoral, and wholly unpresidential….but compared to Iran Contra, it’s like he took two pennies from the take a penny cup. Not even the same league.

JiggaJonsonsays...

He ignores me too! :-p @bobknight33

He's just a Russian troll, sent here to undermine democracy while saying he's saving it. Why else would he demand that we do things proven to limit access to voting and then claim he's for voting rights?

Unlike his claims, ask and I'll share proof. (but right now im off to work)

eoesaid:

@newtboy, it always entertains me when @bobknight33 responds to everyone but you.

eoesays...

Many apologies.

JiggaJonsonsaid:

He ignores me too! :-p @bobknight33

He's just a Russian troll, sent here to undermine democracy while saying he's saving it. Why else would he demand that we do things proven to limit access to voting and then claim he's for voting rights?

Unlike his claims, ask and I'll share proof. (but right now im off to work)

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