Some good points... However... The Supreme Court. Yes, he'll replace a conservative with another conservative, so things might remain equal, however what if something happens to one or more of the liberal justices?

No, I don't expect Trump to get his wall. He probably won't do much to trade, and probably won't be able to withdraw from NATO the way he threatens. He however might be able to get Congress to go along with a temporary ban on Muslims... even if he doesn't the very fact he threatens it, and got voted in, makes lone wolf attacks far more likely. It's not Trump I'm scared of, it's more the attitude of the people of this nation that elected him that frightens me.

Also I think it will be easier to carry on the revolution inside a Clinton White House... she'll be stymied like Obama is by the Republicans blocking everything too, but the change in the Court alone is worth swallowing the bitter pill.

*promote for his thoughtfulness anyhow, and I generally enjoy his other videos too.

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A disenfranchised person would say that threats or promises about what Trump or Hillary might do in power aren't as effective as they used to be. People who understand that lies are part of the new game aren't going to be surprised when the game reaches the lying phase. At this point, each party promises the world but soon the game will move on and they will do as they please.

Playing the game is giving your consent to what the person eventually does - and that IS scary to some people. I gave my consent to Tony Blair, and I consider him one of the key players in causing some of the most terrible British/worldwide problems, including the current problems with Islamic fundamentalism. Personally my line has been crossed and I'm not going to be convinced by a 'better than the other' option.

'Better than the other' is EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT. They have already set the terms of the debate; now there is no other option but to choose between these two things that are not good enough. There is no time left, our neck is in the noose and we're voting to tighten it an inch at a time for fear of it tightening all at once. Climate change needs attention NOW; poverty and suffering are happening in our communities NOW; diplomacy has to happen in the middle east because children and families are dying and it is happening NOW.

I think the world needs change or protest now, I suspect we only disagree on the time scale. I agree Hillary would be 'better' than Trump. All I'd say is 'better than the other' hasn't worked in 20+ years. We might already be too late.

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The problem remains the Supreme Court. Ginsburg is 83, Kennedy is 80, and Breyer is 78... So the next 4 years is likely to see up to 4 replacements in the court. While Scalia was a conservative, and a conservative replacement wouldn't be overly bad, Ginsburg and Breyer, were they to be replaced with a far right justice... and the Republicans would push as far right as they can, would bring about the end of most of the progress this nation has seen. We'd see them retake on abortion and rule it out, gar marriage illegal again... all this is not only possible, but most likely with any Republican in the Presidency... the Conservatives know this, in fact it is the main reason they are going out and voting this election, even if they hate Trump. They will not only hold onto the lead the Conservatives have in the court, they will be able to tilt it very far in a Conservative direction that will be that way for a very long time as they serve for life (or until they want to step down). Every President of late has done 2 appointments (Obama would have done 3 had Congress done it's job and moved on his nomination for Scalia's replacement), and the next likely has 3 to 4 in the next 4 years counting Scalia. This is the long term danger... beyond the rhetoric making it far more likely for lone wolf attacks, which I'd put up with if it meant a better turn in the Supreme Court.

Trump as president will be the same as Trump as presidential candidate. There won't be policies and solutions, he wants to be a demagogue, giving speeches and basking in the adulation. He will delegate the hard work of running the country to other people and stoke his ego presiding over ridiculous meetings where he gives directions and derides his cabinet for failing. "You're fired!"

President Trump will get nothing done and when he pushes the wrong buttons he'll be impeached. The Trump presidency will not be 4 years.

But this guy's video is full of shit. He blissfully ignores the fact that a president must compromise and sometimes even make the best choice from a list of undesireable options. No President can, or should be able to, get everything they want. You can never judge a politician based on every naive expectation you have, because you have the luxury of idealism while they're dealing with reality. The best you can do is support someone who's agenda best matches your own and applaud them when they succeed.

It's like pinball. You can use what control you have to push the ball where you want it but you cannot ultimately control where it goes.

This video starts out be denigrating the idea that game theory should influence our choices in politics. Well that's one of the stupidest things he could say. You cannot refuse to throw the dice in monopoly, claim all the properties and believe you're winning. You have to develop the best strategy you can for the best outcome you can manage with the rules that are in place. If you don't like the rules...change them before the next game begins. Of course, that would require you to make an effort in between games. You don't get YouTube views for that.

Both candidates are not the same based on their platforms which he equates to the be same which is a laughably naive notion. Beyond that, he fails to see the importance that the next president will seat at least 2 if not 3 judges on the supreme court. That isn't up for an election every 4 years. That is 30+ years. 1 supreme court vote made a difference between having Citizens United and not. Alito being dead has already had an influence on how some rulings went e.g. Whole Woman’s Health v. Cole and United States v. Texas.

Furthermore, his whole contention lies on the ability for the American people to vote people out of office. Well in 4 years George Bush managed to invade 2 nations and destroy relationships around the world and creating an even larger terrorist threat that Obama had to deal with drones because the American people wanted safety and didn't want troops deployed and you needed a third way. Then the economy tanked. I can't believe people have this view that we didn't need to bailout the banks, it was a difficult decision but the other choice was a complete collapse of the financial system. Obama just came into office. What would you have done?

I don't understand this bizarre view Americans have every 4 years that when a new president gets elected the whole thing resets like the fucking Matrix or something. A lot of what Obama had to do was to undo the damage of the previous administration. 2008 crash can be linked back directly to Bush's promise that every American deserves to have a home. All while the right and the GOP constantly undermined him. Tell me the last time the government was shut down by the GOP over a health care act meant to help Americans?

Nader got 2.74% of the popular vote in 2000, the people who voted for him might as well as burned their votes because there is no post for 2nd or 3rd place. You just lose. Nader was very well known among the American people. Who is Jill Stein or Gary Johnson?

We've all been here before. Last time it was Ron Paul. But Sanders did succeed in creating a new class of fired up people who I hope will focus on the actual battlegrounds of any progressive movement mayoral, state, senate and house races. Not just wake up every 4 years.

I agree with every thing he said.
I'll never vote Hillary. I'll never vote Trump.

Every election there is always some BS floating around about why we have to vote for an R or a D. The Supreme court one has been used several times before.

Enough is enough quit succumbing to their will continuing the rigged game. Never vote for anyone with an R or a D next to their name on the ballot. They are private clubs which control who can become the next president. Doing so will keep us stuck with the same shitty system we have today.

I would rather vote for Roseanne Barr or any other completely unqualified horror from beyond than continue to support the reality TV show we have today.

Voting for a third party is the only way my vote is not thrown away. If I support Clinton or Trump I lose this election and the next one as well.

The Clinton empire is a crooked as they come. They are a killing machine. The Mafia would be envious.


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Oh, fuck this nonsense. We've been here already:

Bush v. Gore: "It's the same shit over and over; I'm voting for change, I'm voting for NADER!"

How'd that shit work out for you?

Unless you think Hillary and Trump presidencies would be absolutely equal then voting third party would be absolutely equal to or worse than not voting at all.

I'm not afraid of Trump. I'm terrified of Hillary.

Both Trump and Hillary are horrible candidates. The only way either can get elected is by people being fooled into believing only two parties are a viable option.

Buy their point of view and forever be a slave to it.

I agree that choosing between Hillary and Trump is like being forced to choose between being punched in the face and having your arm broken.

Why wouldn't you choose a third option?

Oh, that's right, because you get you arm broken anyway.

Exactly what do you think is going to change by not voting or voting 3rd party (effectively the same in the US)? All you're doing is basically allowing someone else to decide which shit sandwich you have to eat.

It's naive in the extreme.

If you really think there is no difference between Trump and Hillary, then go ahead and don't vote or vote Kermit the Frog or whatever.

But if you have been paying attention the last year or so, then you have to vote for the lesser of two evils. This isn't the time for grandstanding.

Let's put it this way. If you want political change in the US, do you think that's more likely if Trump gets elected?? Seriously?

Perpetually being punched in the face is not a solution.

Buying into the false dilemma keeps us in a two party system.

Break my arm. Even the "worst case scenario", Trump winning due to a third party, would be good motivation for Democrats to support a new election system.

Neither party will allow a non "first past the post" system while they have no third party competition. The first and only time I've heard politicians consider adopting an alternative voting systems was when Ross Perot polled high enough to tank the Republican candidate if he ran.

A lot of comments here haven't aged well.

"I'm not afraid of Trump. I'm terrified of Hillary."

lawls.