Yikes!

1:12: I wanted to slap that smug, ignorant, fat face

Any book that is not allowed to be challenged, cannot be true.

Ken Ham is just messing with us, but i can't figure out what his end game is...

http://i.imgur.com/EpBevdL.jpg .. my only reaction.

Over and over again they say, "I don't have the emotional tools to deal with reality so I choose to believe what's comforting."

That's not a way to live.

no brain, no headache

God, give me strength... So I can bitch slap these fools!

Good thing there are so many good intelligent talks and lectures(*) on the sift, 'cos I need to watch one now to prevent my braincells from committing suicide as a result of this overdose of stupid.

(*) A ton of them posted by @kulpims, much <3 for that!

"There are dinosaur bones with brain tumours."

Ironically, this video presents the best evidence I've ever seen against evolution. Honestly, I've met smarter protozoa than these "people".

And the guy at 2:00 is 100% right, he just doesn't realise it

We are clearly failing our young people somehow.... Blows my mind..

This is what successful brainwashing looks like.

You... what?... That makes no sense. That makes no sense!

I think I know what you're trying to say. If a book that is taken as factual, but its representatives reject challenge, then it *must* be false, is that right?

Not attacking you, it just didn't make any sense. If my understanding is correct then I totally agree.

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In some ways it kind of humanises creationists - makes you understand their perspective at least.

But at the same time - it's a massive troll by HBO aimed at secularists - designed to enrage and make them spit their organically grown, aeropress brewed frappadingdong at the TV screen.

I'd boil this whole thread down to something like this...

blah, blah, blah, aeropress!

At least, that's as much effort as I'm willing to spend on it...I tend to get terribly depressed when I think about the stupidity involved in this video.

If there is a God, a truly benevolent God who has given us free will to do with as we wish and would never interfere, then that universe is identical to one where he does not exist.

What I find most surprising here isn't that they have their faith in the face of reality, but rather that they put their beliefs into the science they seem to know so little about. 'Does that mean god is an animal?' is a great example. No.. the entire idea is moot because god does not exist in the first place. 'God hasn't been heard of since the big bang in science' is another.. no god isn't in the equation in the first place.

It's a clear, fundamental misunderstanding of what science is, stemming clearly from an upbringing that ignored anything science related. I wouldn't doubt that many of these people went to schools were biology either isn't taught or is dramatically down played.

money

I love the irony of people believing in an eternal, omnipotent, realitydefining being that can't be the driving, creative force behind concepts like evolution or the big bang just because their human written book says so.
It simply illustrates my point: if a timetraveller went back and edited the early biblestories to include Superman instead of Jesus, these people would have the letter S on their necklaces instead of crosses and the Pope would wear a red cape.
They call themselves christians but what they truly believe in is a book and not the people or concepts it talks about. If it isn't in the book, it isn't real. These people live in Fantastica and science is their Nothing.

Also Pussy.

The back room orgies that guy has must be astounding, I would love to know his life's dirty desires and secrets. Money, power, pussy- what else do those folks go for ?

If it is not religion it is politics or some other public position of power.

Ah hahahaha...

Thank 'god' for all these retards.
Who else is going to clean our toilets or take a bullet for something they 'believe to be true'

The ammount of idiocy in this video is too damn high! What a bunch of morons.

*related=http://videosift.com/video/HBOs-Questioning-Darwin-Creationists-Go-Full-Retard

HBO's Questioning Darwin: Creationists Go Full Retard has been added as a related post - related requested by Grimm.

That's how most folks deal with the idea that the U.S. is a police state soon enough to be under a type of permanent martial law....

once people can get stoned and play virtual reality games for a cheap price things will work themselves out

We don't all live in Houston, the rest of the US isn't the police state you complain about. Some is, most isn't.

2:30 "I would love to encourage Mr Darwin to try god."

Does she not know he's dead, or does she normally encourage the dead to follow her lead? (can't she just follow theirs instead...please?)

4:27 It's god's word that you must stone anyone that eats shellfish too, or works on Sunday (or whatever day is the real Sabbath). Not doing so is at best ignoring god's edict, or more realistically defying it.
Why do they get away with consistently ignoring the parts even they can't defend/explain, but are 100% certain that it's their duty to force others to follow the parts they like? That's a main reason I can't ever respect religion, even those that follow it can't really honestly or logically respect their own religion, and usually have 0 respect for others.

I would suggest that these people don't need the help of anything made by this 'science' we're all overly reliant on.

Shhhhhhh, shhhh, hush now. Repeat the mantra of Proverbs 1:7: "The FEAR of THE LORD is the beginning of knowledge."

The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge.

Fear God, Bible true, science bad, fear God. Therefore science bad.

And if it wasn't already clear that science and the modern Bible CANNOT exist side by side, repeat the mantra of 1 Timothy 6:20-21:

"Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge, which some have professed and in so doing have wandered from the faith."

So it behooves the Christian NOT to involve oneself with documentaries which debate or discuss such matters, simply turn away and be content in your faith. Don't respond to my comment; don't argue; don't say anything. Jesus says walk away, son. Even if it's not printed in red, remember that Bible = Word of God = Word of Jesus Therefore Jesus says.

And so perfectly too! Therefore, again as it always has been, it is the Word and the Word is Law. So -- holy crap, man, THE LAW -- don't violate any of these thought crimes against God. Or you might suffer pain and all of that other stuff that death assigns to itself.

And people wonder how 25% of Americans still think the sun revolves around the earth. Ah yes, herein lies the explanation. Such genuine, complete, and absolute TERROR at the idea of anything even approaching critical thought that it means even attempting to use rationality on any subject is taboo. It's sad. More than that it's terrifying because those 25% (and these people) get to help decide on the fate of so much that is important through voting. Or at least in theory they do. *sigh*

Did that idiot really just urge Darwin to "try God"? Darwin who was studying to be a clergyman? He's dead, ya daft cunt! If your God's real, ole Charlie's known about it for quite a long time now.

What's I was more surprised by was that 33% of Europeans didn't know the earth revolved around the sun. Just wow.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/02/16/1-in-4-americans-thinks-sun-orbits-earth/

Yeah, some folks live in L.A. County, Baltimore, Miami, we all who live in the U.S. under varying levels of the same bullshit either see the slide into oblivion, or refuse to.

By the by newtboy, I don't really appreciate you taking license with another user's alleged geographical location in the public forum:
Not being paranoid, it's simply a crude, rude, passive-aggressive discourtesy.

I consider it a knee-jerk reaction to you having to read something you'd rather either berate or deny. Not very fucking cool, DUUUUUUDE!

knee jerk ??

You are a backwater tinfoil hat wearing twat. it is no secret here that you fit that geography. Fuck off , your stupid bullshit man.. sometimes it is just too much bullshit to take.

hhahahahhaa

fuck you man, flat out fuck you. hhahaha god damn lauhing here how oblivious you are.

ahh crap, I fed the mold a piece of bread. fuck.

Makes perfect sense.They believe because it's religion, it's beyond question. The book is fact to them and cannot be challenged because it's "The word of God".
If the book was based in truth, then, not only could we call it into question, they should welcome the challenge. But we can't because there are so many holes in it and they know it.



ARTICIAN quoted you as saying:
Any book that is not allowed to be challenged, cannot be true.

No no, I get that. But your initial statement of "Any book that is not allowed to be challenged, cannot be true" struck me as funny. Like any book that is allowed to be challenged, therefore must be true.

Not meant as passive aggressive, I thought this was public knowledge I got from your public posts. I was going to aplolgise in case I was wrong, but I can see from posts already made that it was public knowledge here. Please don't berate sifters for repeating information you've given many of them (without telling them to not spread the info)...that is VERY paranoid, rude, and passive aggressive. It's not like you could be 'found' in the megalopolis that it H town unless you wear a Chingalera shirt everywhere, but it wasn't my intent to piss you off with that. Now that you've 'asked' (in your own angry, insulting way) I'll try to not do it again...at least not with that specificity.
I think you need to see your knee Dr.
...and actually, it was because I read, and denied your repeating knee jerk berating of all of my country because your tiny unpleasant experience has given you a foul taste in your mouth about it. (I feel it's likely because one tends to get back what one puts out that you can't stand people.) I was, once again, reminding you that we don't all live in the hyper-populated police state you consistently move into and then bitch non-stop about...that's also not very fucking cool, or smart, DUUUUUUD!
EDIT: ...and I see from my actual post that I didn't say YOU lived there, just that it's a police state, you inferred that it was about where YOU lived.

Stating that "A" is true does not mean you imply that "-A" is also true.

@BoneRemake

Clear violation of official sift decorum
"You are a backwater tinfoil hat wearing twat. it is no secret here that you fit that geography. Fuck off , your stupid bullshit man.. sometimes it is just too much bullshit to take. "

....or simply assholism??

Newt, you should know fucking better and act accordingly if you have it in you to dump your ego in the toilet for a refreshing swim.

I have accepted consequences of my tirades in the past-Trying really hard to play 'NICE' children, got a few years on your "polite' asses as well. Your hate doesn't fool anyone, in fact it seethes with every comment made.

Bothof you continue to ignore or otherwise discount sincere private messages, yet you come out in public to try and destroy my opinions and observations with personal attacks. what's up with that, eh??

Man-up why dontchas?

Mostly answered in private along with the response to the private message, despite the claim that I ignore and discount private messages.
These appear to be ignored because private messages may be apologetic or reasonable, but continuing public messages are anything but. In that situation, I'll always consider the insulting public messages to trump the reasonable private ones.
MY attacks are all about your vitriolic insulting degrading denigrating style. I disagree with many of your points, but I'm never the one to start infantile name calling, even about a position. I may be disrespectful of it, but I don't start the silly, infantile name calling ridiculousness (as a rule, I may not always succeed in this). I don't know you well enough to insult you personally, except when you contradict yourself between private and public posts. I can be insulting of your positions, especially so when they are insultingly given.
I do hate people being smarmy and vulgarly insulting, especially when they then cry foul and throw tantrums if the tables are turned. Distinguish between the hate for a behavior you display and hate OF YOU and you'll be happier and feel less attacked....at least by me.
For that reason, I'm also publicly warning you that any 'private' message to me will be considered fair game from this point on, to use publicly to contradict your public stances when you are being hypocritical and/or disingenuous. That doesn't mean private personal information, unless it directly contradicts what you say in public. Fair warning.
Maned-up enough fo ya?

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This is an official warning for violating our commenting rules. Any further ad hom attacks will result in banination. Thanks.

@chingalera Pretty much what newt said about tables turned and you crying foul. I have witnessed it many times with you over the years. I do not know you but I " Know " you and I do not like you and last night I had the displeasure of again reading a lazy suzan style emotion. I ignore you out right because I have the personal opinion that any genuine correspondence is not worth the time or effort, To be honest when I see that little email pop up I delete it, when I log in I have you on ignore so I just delete that too, I really do not care what you have to say. It is harsh but simplistic really.

Hope that answers your question, sorry Sift for shitting in the comment thread. One of those situations where - yea I got to express myself, but all in all it was not constructive.

OK, So maybe it was worded odd for you - Sometimes clarity in my head, isn't always clarity out loud!
Cheers!

Because the meaningful video is 19 times as long. It's as simple as that, even here, attention spans are limited.

while you did need to reign it in there. It wouldn't have happened had not a certain someone completely changed the topic of the sift.

used to be about creationists remember before it got derailed...as usual