"Again, as so many said in the first video how happy it made them feel, and how great it was. Do you really think this situation is GOOD?"

I think people were happy that Casey defended himself, not that he was put in a situation where it was needed.

Waaaaaa. Poor him. GMAFB.

Try sucker-punching someone your own size next time, Choppers.

Haven't watched either of the video interviews yet, but just from the original video...this dude had someone filming him picking on the other kid. He also had the taller guy backing him up, since as soon as he was slammed taller guy stepped in.

So I have a hard time believing anything he says given he has a someone who knows enough about the past situation to start recording it knowing the slapping and punching are going to occur and being shocked by the body slam.

5 more comments have been lost in the ether at this killed duplicate.

"He's as much a victim as Casey is."

While that may be true, he chose to pass it on, and now he's obviously lying about it after the fact. The sad part is his dad appears to believe him.

Looks like the sack of shit never falls far from the horse.

12 years old with an eyebrow piercing?

So he is a bully, and also a liar...? You have a nice future in front of you kid, way to go.

The problem with vilifying Richard is he does need to be given the chance to learn from this and correct his behavior. He is just a kid.

If I had to speculate on what happened, I'd say Casey was probably what people in my old neighborhood called a "pooh boy". That's someone afraid to stand up for himself in nearly every situation so he's always the target for bullying.

This boy, Richard, is probably someone who's also bullied due to his size, and probably picks on others that won't fight back to help his image. Hence he picked on an easy target: Casey. But in this moment, Casey probably realized he was bigger than Richard; not to mention something about him seems unthreatening compared to most "bullies" I encountered growing up, which I was convinced would cut my balls off and feed them to me. In short, Richard doesn't seem as dangerous as the worst bullies.

I think that fueled Casey to retaliate in that instance when he normally wouldn't do so in most cases. It's kind of sad if this is all true, because we really want to see the big, asshole bullies get their due.

Ah, but fear not citizens. The media is already involved in the case and about to clear everything objectively!

>Sincerity not found.

Maybe I miss heard but his reason for backing Casey against a wall and punching him several times while trying to humiliate him in front of everyone was because Casey bullied him by telling him to get back to class? Maybe that eyebrow piercing nicked his frontal lobe a little but I'm failing to see the logical reasoning behind the supposed offense and his reaction.

This kid is going to have some real problems in the future if pops doesn't step up his parenting game. So far his biggest concern seems to be the public humiliation and vitriol he's suffering cause his kid got caught being a twat. He needs to be extremely alarmed by his child's seeming lack of empathy or inability to judge appropriate reactions to a lackadaisical insult.

Fk you, Rat Boy.

Sad the whole world is judging a school fight now..

This is just insane, its the equivalent of us forming a circle around them and cheering for whoever we like more..

Nothing good can come from this and the press feeds on this pile of shit.

"How dare you tell me to go back to class?! Just for that I'm going to get my friends to film me bashing you in the head knowing that even though I am smaller I have a bunch of other friends willing to back me up in case you decide to unfairly fight someone half your size"

"SOMEBODY CALL DA AMBERLAMPS!"

rabbit toothed lying rat boy

I don't care. The school yard fight was entertaining, but it's over now. Casey won the fight, The end. It's pointless for all of us outsiders to get involved more than we are. Let the parents, teachers and social workers take care of it and get these people out of the media. It may be a sad situation all way round, but exposing all of this in the media for our entertainment is not the way to go. Moving on.

I remember clinging to a telephone pole for dear life while gettin' punched in the kidneys for about 45 seconds when I was about 6.
The End.

This is way too much hype for a fucking quarrel between normal, immature brats.

It's very easy to believe that we aren't seeing the whole story. I find it VERY easy to believe that the bully was in fact bullied himself (though whether or not it was done by the big kid, we'll probably never know). How else did he learn to bully others?

We won't ever know the real story and we really don't need to either. All we can hope for is that this makes someone think twice about bullying someone. If it stops even one incident, then it's a good thing that his has happened.

Someone is milking their 15 minutes of fame for all they can though.

Well, the little shit learned one thing for sure...his right jab needs an awful lot of work.

>> ^lavoll:

rabbit toothed lying rat boy


are you tough talking a 12 year old?
sigh

There's only one way to end this once and for all.

Sounds like a Vicious Cycle that should be stopped. Maybe not all jumping to conclusions like an internet message board is the way to go. Oh the ironing.

>> ^Opus_Moderandi:

There's only one way to end this once and for all.


As a martial artist, something in my stomach tells me this is wrong. But the smile on my face thinks it's fucking awesome.

Spoco, spoco, spoco. I don't remember anyone saying "the situation is good". It almost feels like you've manipulated the general feeling in order to win a point, man.

I'm definitely happy that casey refused to allow himself to be bullied. I think if anyone is NOT happy about that, then they've got something wrong with them.

The situation, however, is shite. But i don't believe in excuse making. I came from a divorced family, lots of arguing, i was raised (during significant periods) in a really bad environment, but you'll be very hard pressed to find me or have ever found me acting in any way that isn't fair and just. No excuses.

"That's not a bully...THIS is a bully"

"Are you sorry?" "No---uhmm, Yeah."

Rat faced weasel boy.

Watch these two kids become friends after this whole thing.

I don't and can't advocate violence when it comes to bully's - but what do you do when no one will step in and help you - this is a classic response to abuse of any kind.

I work with kids on a volunteer basis and sometimes have to help manage groups of up to 100 kids. One thing I've noticed is that there are always one or two kids (boys) who are small (or under-sized) for their age who use bullying tactics just to gain stature in the group. Stomping (hard) on other kids feet when lining up, hitting, pinching and more - little things but they ad up and it gains them status in the group.

Girls usually don't get physical but use words to hurt other girls, things that might seem subtle but again builds up to more in the child being bullied.

I've also noticed that these smaller kids are often the instigators. Other kids join in to become a group (3-4) who in turn, turn on other kids because "It's fun and kind of funny" (to them) and it saves face in front of their peers. Other kids would rather join in than become the next target. They align themselves with the one aggressor that is trying to become the Alpha-male/female of the group in order to maintain their own stature and stay at the top of the pack. This attitude is instinctual and most of them don't even notice they are doing it. It may be an instinctual survival skill dating back to our animal instincts in the caveman days (conjecture).

As an adult, the big thing is to address it as soon as it's mentioned by sitting down all parties involved. Let them know you are going to be checking in with them and will continue to do so. every time it is mentioned that "it happened again" or is "still happening". then you meet with them again. We make it clear with a yellow card system. (second card is a call home, third card is a meeting with the parents to discuss the situation in person.) It's not the cards that are important, it's that they know things are happening and will continue to happen - if they don't revise the behavior, then the situation will get worse for them.

If I was to pick someone at fault here, I'd choose the parents, the teachers and the system that is place for these kids. Kids who bully have other issues that are not being addressed such as being bullied themselves or bad home situations. Kids who get bullied are kids who don't have parents that engage them in meaningful discussions so the kids can confide in them various bad situations that they may be in.

Schools, it seems have cut back on supervision when the kids go outside - they become free to do what ever they want and that's the best time for "positioning" amongst the kids. If the school doesn't provide a comprehensive plan for dealing with this and involve the kids with what the plan is from day one and then continue to remind them throughout the year, how will they control the situation and stop it before it starts. The teachers are part of that system and should be standing up for the kids and a solid set of guidelines (not saying this school didn't have guidelines).

This situation should have been diffused long before it got to this point. I feel bad for both boys. No one should have to be bullied and where was the support for the boy who did the bullying. His situation should have been identified early on and given some attention.

Whatever happened... it really sucks for him that the whole world is judging him now, whereas back in my day, it would've been a few kids on the school yard and that's probably it. He's 12. He maybe deserved getting his ass handed to him. He doesn't deserve the derision and judgement (and probably harassment) of the world for this. Hopefully he succeeds despite his parentage and does well in life.

What a crock of shit from a little fucking weasel. Destined to be someones bottom bitch in prison.

>> ^Xax:

Whatever happened... it really sucks for him that the whole world is judging him now, whereas back in my day, it would've been a few kids on the school yard and that's probably it. He's 12. He maybe deserved getting his ass handed to him. He doesn't deserve the derision and judgement (and probably harassment) of the world for this. Hopefully he succeeds despite his parentage and does well in life.


The 'abused becomes the abuser' excuse doesn't wash. The peer pressure excuse doesn't wash. These kids should be taking personal responsibility for their actions. He thought he could play at being a big man dominating others, for whatever reason, well now it's coming back to bite him in the ass. And I for one am pleased as punch. The broken leg, the humiliation and derision etc are the wages of his actions.

As a person who was frequently bullied and stood up for myself (and usually came out of the fight in a better condition than the bully) I have little sympathy for him. You pick a fight, you're gambling that the other guy isn't going to kick your ass. Bullies either gang up or pick what they think are soft targets because they are, at heart, cowards. Rat boy bet wrong.

They're interviewing the two kids, so why do they need to blur their faces on the internet video?

I strongly agree with your assessment of the father here. In the original post about this bullying, we discussed options for trying to prevent this scenario from ever coming about. It was decided that the best way to do it was through behavioral shaping, and the best way to do that is through good parenting.

What's really impressive to me is that, despite the family situation, the parents on both both sides are very well spoken, and seem to have good values that they at least intend to pass on to their children. What's alarming to me is that the parent of this child fails to do this, even though he intends to. This is clearly evidenced when the kid says he isn't sorry for what he did, and then is corrected by his father offscreen, and then the issue is finally brought out...on camera, by the interviewer. After talking things out and finally achieving character growth, the kid realizes what is wrong about what he did.

Even through all the crap that this family is going through because of how widely popular this video is, and how the entire world has practically vilified this kid and his entire family, his dad never actually sat down with his kid and talked about why he should feel sorry about what he did, and why. It took a television interviewer to bring the issue to the table. I can't think that his dad is a bad person, just that he's not talking with his kids about the important issues like he should be; but it just blows me away that if something of this magnitude can't make a parent do their intended task, what will?

Really, that's not a rhetorical question; what will?

>> ^Crosswords:

>Sincerity not found.
...This kid is going to have some real problems in the future if pops doesn't step up his parenting game. So far his biggest concern seems to be the public humiliation and vitriol he's suffering cause his kid got caught being a twat. He needs to be extremely alarmed by his child's seeming lack of empathy or inability to judge appropriate reactions to a lackadaisical insult.

>> ^blankfist:
...This boy, Richard, is probably someone who's also bullied due to his size, and probably picks on others that won't fight back to help his image. ...


Actually, given his age, he's about normal. His peer group would accept him. Casey, being "husky", would be a target unless he was far more aggressive. In high school I decided to try out pushing people around after being picked on in elementary. Only lasted about a month. Just not in my character. Helped shape a stay-away-from-big-Dave mentality for the rest of school though, that was cool.