Earlier today, I could not believe this had not yet been sifted. Now that I have the time to do it myself, you beat me to it. :-)

I hope this does not take long to get to the top of the New Videos by Vote queue.

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We can't deport them. We can't jail them. We can't shun them. The only option I see is engage them and educate them. Their beliefs come from a miseducation, clearly, since they somehow see their failed causes as superior.
Remind them the Nazis lost...and are anti American.
Remind them the confederates lost...and are anti Americans.
Remind them the white power movements lost...and are anti American.
Remind them that, if they are working to eradicate all but a master race, they have proven repeatedly to not be that master race, so they should start by eradicating themselves.

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the organizers of this disgrace are racists so you don't get to say oh I was just there to protest the taking down of statues; they are losers and they need to go and no it's not a slippery slope

My god, the man's right on every angle.

I may not agree with his economic policy, but it's disgusting that anyone even needs to point out this stuff.

"Hey everyone! It turns out that evil is bad!"

Truth and facts.

Trump did condemn, unlike Arnold's dad.

Truth and facts but left out that his dad was a Nazi.

His dad decided not to beat the loud and angry voices of the Nazi with louder more reasonable voices. His dad just joined them.

Military career[edit]
Schwarzenegger had served in the Austrian Army from 1930 to 1937, achieving the rank of section commander and in 1937 he became a police officer. After enlisting in the Wehrmacht in November 1939, he was a Hauptfeldwebel (Master Sergeant) of the Feldgendarmerie, which were military police units. He served in Poland, France, Belgium, Ukraine, Lithuania and Russia. His unit was Feldgendarmerie-Abteilung 521 (mot.), which was part of Panzer Group 4. Wounded in action in Russia on 22 August 1942, he had the Iron Cross First and Second Classes for bravery, the Eastern Front Medal or the Wound Badge. Schwarzenegger appears to have received much medical attention. Initially, he was treated in the military hospital in Łódź, but according to the records he also suffered recurring bouts of malaria, which led to his discharge in February, 1944.

Bob, nobody gives a fuck about his dad.
If my daddy had said 'Children need to be fucked hard!' I still wouldn't be wrong about fucking children being a bad thing.
It amazes me that you're thinking this shit would work here. You truly are a clown.

Oh and my Grandpa fought in the Wehrmacht. Just saying.

Doesn't this make his statements more poignant and heartfelt, since he knows from a close familial context?
So then he just said his own father rests in hell, you retort ' But his daddy was a nazi'?
I fail to see the point of that beyond deflection. The sins of the father, especially once denounced, are not the sins of the son. Bad form, Bob.

Do you think there's any significance behind him waiting 2 days before actually naming Nazis? I thought that a big criticism of Obama from the right was that he wouldn't name terrorism as 'Islamic', is this different?

How will the Republicans get him elected after the misfire that this current presidency is.

He had to get ALL the facts before going out on a limb and saying something bad about Nazis....but when it appears the attackers were brown, Radical Islamic Terrorism needs to be called out and blamed before we even know if it was an accident, much less the reasons for the attacks....within hours.
Just more proof he doesn't understand the concept of honesty.

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My kind of Republican.

My Grandfather also served in the Nazi army. It's not like they had a choice. Men were forced to fight. In the end my grandfather was arrested for desertion because he wanted to be with his family. He was put to death. His family had to be smuggled out of Germany in the dark and were brought to Canada.

There's a ton more I'm leaving out because frankly, it's none of your business. But my point is, unless you personally know the specific circumstances, which you don't, you don't have to right to pre-judge someone based on a family tree you know nothing about! And you don't. You only know the published short facts, and know nothing about the human side of his family.

In Germany, you just did what you were told or you were put to death. Many families were destroyed. Mine included. Don't go pushing that self righteous crap around like you know what you're talking about!

Thank you

Exactly.. But if he did mention it he would add another dimension of condemnation to the Unit the White party.

That being said I am glad you agree the sins of the father stops at the father.. You do agree to that correct? Lord help me if I'm wrong seeing how much of a leftest nut you are. Answer?

Being a Nazi was the thing to be.. It was the way of the society.
Thanks for making that point.

If he did mention it he would add another dimension of condemnation to the Unit the White party.

I don't think he said his father rests in hell.

True, but would also trigger thousands of retorts just like yours that at least appear to discard his salient points for personal derision and/or deflection. I think he was smart to leave it out, it's not like it's a secret.

1:16-1:38...his dad is one of those poor misled ghosts....no?

Am I my father's keeper?
How the fuck can anyone bear responsibility for anything that happened before their birth? If you're not around to even form an opinion, you can't bear any responsibility.
That said, even if you're around, there's a reason we consider children and adults to be very different when it comes to responsibility.
Therefore it wouldn't matter if Arnold mentions it or not. He spoke his mind and said clearly what he thought. It doesn't matter what his Daddy would've thought or who he was. The Nazis of today are the problem, not the ones who are dead.
And of course, those who are unpatriotic enough to sympathize with Nazis, like your PotUS, Mr. Trump. A proven racist. A traitor to the american people.

I don't think you understood what he was trying to say. There's a difference between being a Nazi, being an opportunistic follower or going along with it to avoid trouble. There's a difference between being a zealot, a shitty human being or a coward.
And if somebody gets himself killed for not going along with it, then that person is neither of these things.
'Being a slave-owner was the thing to be' isn't a correct statement either, or is it, Bob?

Thank you for clearing this up. The sins of our fathers are that of the father and not carried generationally.

With said Today Americans do not owe jack to ancestors of slaves.

American can just get along and move past BLM and all the white privilege bull shit that you and your leftest ilk are promoting.

Thank you very much... Don't for get to inform you leftest friends.

Oh I understood Just wanted to know if YOU did.

Thank you for clearing this up. The sins of our fathers are that of the father and not carried generationally.

With said Today Americans do not owe jack to ancestors of slaves.

American can just get along and move past BLM and all the white privilege bull shit that you and your leftest ilk are promoting.

Thank you very much... Don't for get to inform you leftest friends.

I wanted to use this vid in a different manner. That is of how some Blacks and liberals think that white Americans OWE them for the past sins of the father.


The sins of our fathers are that of the father and not carried generationally.

With said Today Americans do not owe jack to ancestors of slaves.

American can just get along and move past BLM and all the white privilege BS that is being promoted by liberal outlets.

I see, that was both unclear and unadvisable....but I'll play along.....
I think you misunderstand, they want reparations for a past theft that was never recouped or returned. The Nazis returned what they stole and paid dearly for their crimes, and they admit and have shame for the crimes of their nation/countrymen. Slave owners couldn't return the lost lives, families, property, or cultures, and largely didn't even try to pay compensation, and they and their descendants have acted like releasing the slaves WAS reparation AND just punishment for the kidnappers/slavers, so any further complaint is unjustified.

The sins of the father are the father's, but if the son takes the money dad stole and lives on it, knowing it's stolen, then the son is complicit. If my dad kidnaps your child and rapes it to death, and makes a fortune selling tickets to the event, I'm a complicit monster if I live on that money instead of giving it to you even if I wasn't born when he did it....no?

It's largely because the crimes have never been addressed and also because the victims are still, to this day, harassed and attacked as if they were the kidnappers rather than the victims.
If your mother was kidnapped, worked to death, and you were shunned and denied because of it, and so were your children and grandchildren, would you not want your great grandchildren to try to get justice for her from the people whose wealth was created by selling people like her? Would you not hold a grudge against them?

Considering the wrath provoked by niggling perceived slights against the right, can you even imagine how you and they would react if positions were reversed? I think they would demand deportation of the descendants of slave owners and forfeiture of all their assets, judging from recent behavior.

So I was right...it's pure deflection.
You have completely ignored the excellent points he made, made a barely related denigrating point about his father, then extrapolate to attempt to make a completely unrelated, naive or disingenuous (and terrible) point about an unrelated topic....hoping we'll follow along and forget the excellent points he made about Nazis.
Bad form again, Bob....just horrible.

BTW....because you seem confused, no one ever was forced under penalty of death to keep slaves, and very few Nazi's families benefited after the fact from having been Nazis....it's not the same thing by far.

BASF is a huge german corporation that produced Zyklon B, the gas used in Ausschwitz to kill thousands of people. They're still going strong. It is by far not the only german corporation that benefitted greatly from the Holocaust. Take IBM for example, they delivered card-computing systems to manage concentration camp popula... Oh shit! IBM is american, my bad.
The Bundeswehr, the german military, was run by Nazi Generals in its early years. Just this year there were several scandals concerning Neo Nazis among their ranks.
A lot of people benefited from the atrocities of the third Reich. Don't kidd yourself. Remember, Hitler hired Ferdinand Porsche to develop the Volkswagen. The development of the VW Beetle was started by the Fuehrer.

I was under the impression that companies like that paid 'reparations' (restitutions) based on their actions under the Nazis. Is that wrong?
What I meant was they weren't allowed to keep the spoils of the war they lost...as far as I know....and were forced to paid for their complicity, along with the nation as a whole (right? I just assumed Germany paid reparations, but I admit my post war European history is spoty at best)....that doesn't mean eradication, or even stop further success, but it would mean that later successes cannot be attributed to profiting from war crimes. I hope that's right.

First of all, you realize that you posted nearly the same reply twice in a row? Are you copy&pasting replies now?
Second, sincerely, fuck you Bob. You don't get to put words in my mouth. You're a white american and you have to own your shitty, racist past.
It's not about reperations or blame, it's about your unwillingness to own your countries' racist, slave-owning, segregationist past.
The ancestors of white americans invaded, stole, raped, murdered, kidnapped and enslaved brown people to get where they are today. Your ancestors did.
If you refuse to own this, you make yourself an accomplice. You help the perpetrators to get away with it.
I own my countries past. I'll tell you all I know. It may be too little, it may be not good enough but at least I'll try. Go visit Buchenwald. I did it twice and I must say, the first time I was too stupid to understand what it meant. I'm ashamed of that.
I stood in the doorstep of a tiny little room where people would enter, believing they were there to have their height measured. They didn't know there was tiny opening in the wall where they stood. They didn't know that on the other side of the wall there's a man with a pistol waiting to shoot them in the neck. They burned the bodies in a large oven.
I want you to know this. I want everybody to know this.
I'm not at fault. I wasn't around. I'll be an accomplice if I wouldn't tell you about it. I know about a crime and I will tell you all I know about it. That's why I'm not guilty.

You, on the other hand, stand in a puddle of blood (haha, you're a clown called Puddles) and deny anything's wrong.
Maybe you didn't own slaves. Maybe you never lynched a black man. Maybe you're not a cop who shot a black person for no reason. Maybe it's not your fault.
But you help them to get away with this by telling me there's no crime.

That's the difference between us two, you don't mind the blood on your hands while typing your manifestos on the internet. I do. I'll tell you all about it.

Reperations are nothing but blood money. They may send a message but no life lost can be paid back in dollars.

Absolutely, reparations/restitutions don't erase crimes, but they can go a long way towards keeping criminals from profiting from them....an important step in justice... and they can help the injured recover in part.
The lives lost can never be replaced. That doesn't mean no repayment should be attempted, only that it can't be satisfactory by itself. Making the injured party whole may be impossible, but the effort to do so has value still, and meaning, just as making no effort to repay the injured for the damage caused has a clear meaning.

Re. slavery and sins of fathers

I don't think anybody is suggesting that white folks be held personally responsible for slavery, but you do need to accept that, in the main, whites start life with a headstart. We still profit from that history, and that is to say nothing of the racism that still exists today.

I'm not sure that Schwarzenegger really gained much from his father fighting on the losing side of a war. As far as I am aware he came to America almost penniless and somehow manufactured a career for himself. Like...maybe if his dad had got a load of looted art or something and then Arnie inherited that... idk.

Anyhoo, he's white, so he had that going for him.

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One of two of my favourite Arnold videos where he talks about tumours. Sift of the Week.

And blacks in the west start miles ahead of blacks in Africa. So where do we draw the line? Equal opportunity and equal treatment are the very best we should be able to expect in this world because as soon as you put your thumb on the scales, one way or another, someone is going to feel cheated. That will, in turn, become resentment, fair or not, and the cycle will continue.

You trace back every persons family tree and you'll end up with both ancestors that had the boot on their neck, and ancestors who wore the boot. If we carry the sum of the sins of our forebears, then there is not a single person alive today that isn't guilty of some horrid event. A million monkeys with a million typewriters will eventually write Mein Kampf...

I agree with most of what the Governator said, and noted the things he didn't say eg. he didn't say it's okay to physically attack someone expressing a hateful idea.

More importantly, I think Daryl Davis has the solution:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kkk-klu-klux-klan-members-leave-black-man-racism-friends-convince-persuade-chicago-daryl-davis-a74895
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Or Martin Luther King: "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."

Which is why you don't destroy history, you don't shout down people expressing hateful ideas, you do not dehumanise them and in not doing that, you do not become the monster you are trying to fight.