Gasp! He had an affair?!

Thanks dag.
I know this isn't fun for you.

Whats this ?

>> ^westy:
Whats this ?


you got in trouble.

remember that time when everyone frothed at the keyboard and went all red-faced and stuff? you did that.

"Westy has been given his official reprimand for the incident"

My reprimand is the inability to edit my comments ?

I'm confused as to why i have been reprimanded It seems that some people Have not understood a post/posts of mine, Im sure I have misunderstood other peoples posts in the past.

I don't see the problem.

Pretty stupid resolution to a pretty stupid sequence of events.

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Westy - I'd like to ask you an honest question- and get the correct answer.

How many people are you?

I'm only one person

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Are you this person?

?

I am Westy Old guy headphones

I'm not the guy in the video

omg I think my heart is going to burst
what are the warning signs for a stroke

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Are you the guy who left the comment I linked to?

My comment's on that page were

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"Black people do it the monkey way whites do it the other way, why do u think black people are black ? its because they are monkeys."
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And
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"Well its quite clear from my post that im a racist
KnivesOut "Said it before, and I'll say it again. You're an asshole."
Maby i am an asshole But it could also be the case that your a simpleton."
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The second one was because KnivesOut called me an Asshole probably due to his simple mindedness.

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This is about the first comment. Racist comments are against our posting and commenting guidelines.

I don't believe it was racist that's why I replied to KnivesOut calling him a simpleton.

SlipperyPete also sent me a pm saying
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"watch the racism dude - you're going to get yourself banned

In reply to this comment by westy:
Black people do it the monkey way whites do it the other way, why do u think black people are black ? its because they are monkeys."
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And i replied with.

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I'm not racist , Interestingly if sum one actually was racist id rather they were allowed to post as being a racist is an imposable position to defend.
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You don't think that saying black people are monkeys is racist?

Not if i don't believe that black people are monkeys,

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You weren't reprimanded for being a racist.

You were reprimanded for posting a racist comment. I don't think you're a racist.

Hahaha. Westy may be my new hero. That was hilarious.

I don't see how it was a racist comment ,

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To understand racism I think it requires a bit of empathy. Would you get in front of a classroom of black children and tell them that they are monkeys and white people are not?

BTW - I agree that we are all primates, but I don't think that's the point you were making in your original comment.

I would look at the audience and try to ascertain there intellect and there perceptive abilities

In your example i would not. I would also not tell a classroom of White children that they are monkeys and Black people are not.

Depending on the context and the age/intellect of the room i might say the same thing during a lecture, depending on the subject and the aptitude of the students / aptitude of the governing school bodies .

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So, if you were to say this during a lecture -what point would you be making - what would the context be?

stop torturing dag, westy

I don't think the school example is an appropriate analogy because video sift is not a class room full of black children/children (as far as i know)

My saying I may use the essence of the comment in a lecture was more me trying to conform with your analogy and show how age and audience are relevant. In order for me to use the exact wording the video would have to come up in a lecture and this would be very unlikely.

From reading comments it would seem the average user is at least over 14, years of age and thus a fair % of video sift users would understand what i put without an explanation.

I dislike having to justify myself due to the fact that the people that didn't understand in the first place will likely not understand after my ramblings and that i don't believe you can change sum ones perceptions of things within a reasonable amount of comments/ before i become disinterested.

This is why Traditionally i will avoid these forum type arguments unless i happen at the time of writing to feal motivated to type.

Definitely not ironic satire. Shame we voted for a tyrant who saw it that way.

What do you make of the fact that you have negative 56 downvotes on that comment? Does that tell you anything? Mean anything to you? Give you any pause for reflection .. that sort of thing?

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You may not be willing to explain it, but unfortunately - you have an obligation to make yourself clearly understood or suffer the consequences of misapprehension.

The limited flexibility of a short block of text on a page does not lend itself to subtlety or nuance. This is a problem that reasserts itself over and over - and is a great source of conflict on the Internet. Unless you are Wordsworth or Steinbeck - say what you mean or suffer the results.

Well, well, well. Here we are, all with our peckers out, and nobody has the same measuring tape.

And in 3 months time, nobody is going to care. (Except for the thin-skinned and small-peckered of us.)

(...and my acknowledgment to all the ladies of the Sift, who don't have to be bothered with having peckers in the first place. Mmmmmwah. )

>> ^videosiftbannedme:
Well, well, well. Here we are, all with our peckers out, and nobody has the same measuring tape.
And in 3 months time, nobody is going to care. (Except for the thin-skinned and small-peckered of us.)
(...and my acknowledgment to all the ladies of the Sift, who don't have to be bothered with having peckers in the first place. Mmmmmwah. )

I don't use a measuring tape...I use a scale

1/8" = 1'-0" is usually enough to make me average

Wait -

I'm still just taken aback at the actual words in westy's comment above. All the words are spelled correctly. Westy, I really would like to know - if you are indeed capable of spelling like that, how come almost everything else looks like it was spelled by a third grader? Is it all just part of some online persona or just something to do that will confuse people?

^Maybe he's sober?

Honestly, given his refusal to even explain his game-playing when asked, and his flat-out refusal to offer any explanation for the intentions of the original comment, I'd offer up a new interpretation. He's a troll, pure and simple...he thinks it's funny to anger as many people as he can.

If it were possible, I'd like to change my vote in the poll from hobbling to banning. I have little patience with racists, but even less with trolls.

"
The limited flexibility of a short block of text on a page does not lend itself to subtlety or nuance. This is a problem that reasserts itself over and over - and is a great source of conflict on the Internet. Unless you are Wordsworth or Steinbeck - say what you mean or suffer the results."

What you said there is my point

"say what you mean or suffer the results."

How can you ever say what u mean when the people that disagreed with you in the first place will never understand ?

"short block of text on a page does not lend itself to subtlety or nuance"

Evan the most simple of language is riddled with subtlety and nuance because everyone is going to read it from there point of view.

As a long time connoisseur of westy.. .I'm unsure if this is in fact the original westy of yesteryear. Maybe he has dropped his persona just a little bit to type proper sentences, but I don't like his dropping his character persona. It's like Borat using a british accent.


Dag, yes the casual sifter might have seen that post and complained... but that is not what happened. Supposedly high intellect people that know 'westy' and his comments over a long period of time are feigning outrage and misunderstanding at what was clearly an parody comment that no reasonable person could assume it was meant seriously.

The fact that it was so obviously over the top indicated it was just a poor taste, poor humor, attempt at saying something stupid.

So if it is all comments cannout offend anyone, then fine. But if you are trying to stick up for whiners who are fanning them selves and having fainting spells, then I feel sorry for you.

Under the logic of my current shackle I think i would probably have to be shackled 70% of the time. I think a good proportion of the sift community would also have to be shackled.

Not a single misspelled word and a lot of large words. Did someone hack into westys acct (i'm serious, i'd check the IP). westy i hate to see you break character.

This thread has gone on far too long.

>> ^Fjnbk:
This thread has gone on far too long.


You're right it has, anything else said is redundant.

No more comments please, Fjnbk gets the last word.

Agreed. Someone call rottenseed in here to discard this.

NEVER

>> ^Fjnbk:
This thread has gone on far too long.


yep. I said it before:

"what i've personally concluded after reading through all the discussion, is that we here at the sift, and elsewhere on the internet, have a bit too much time on our hands to be having such lengthy discussions as we do on relatively insignificant matters"

Would you go to the zoo and yell at the monkeys that they are a bunch of white kids?

Just think, this guy was up on the chopping block to be banned for racism! How ridiculous is that!

This is clearly a case of a poster over-estimating his audience. You'd have hoped that we'd all have been adults enough to interpret his comment correctly, but man quite a few missed the boat!

Whats harmful for the sift is posters having to "dumb down" what they say just so that the "slow kids" can keep up with the class...I say it should be more like the largest bladder on a road trip...you don't let the guys who can't hold their piss slow the whole thing down to a crawl...

^westy:
Interestingly if sum one actually was racist id rather they were allowed to post as being a racist is an imposable position to defend

To the people that are taking interest in westy's 'sudden' semi-proper spelling: there's this magical-helpful-thingy called "spell-checker". it's now a couple of times that westy's mentioned that he occasionally uses it. sometimes one has the additional time to process one's comments through it, and sometimes one doesn't. doh.

oh, and maybe some of you ought to search for sifts and comments with the keywords 'westy' + 'dyslexia'. just a thought.

For all of those saying 'you're being too stupid or dense to get what Westy was really saying'.

Um

What was he really saying? No one, including Westy, has actually said what the crap that post was supposed to mean. I thought it was very offensive, many others thought it was very offensive, Westy's only response to it being called so was to lash out at those that had said so.

Basically all I see is someone being a right old dick and trying to pretend that everyone who thinks that is just being stupid.

Well sorry, but that's just not true

My God all this paranoia about racism.

People foam at the mouth at the very hint of race being mentioned. For a bunch of post-religious liberal hipsters, most of you aren't much unlike those who imprisoned Galileo.

Yes his comment was distasteful, but talk about a storm in a teacup. (Yet this equally disturbing comment merits no attention.)

Hitler's great posthumous legacy is the absolutely panicked and desperate attitudes Europeans take on race.

last

White Paranoia on Black Issues
http://www.videosift.com/video/Racism-Black-Vs-White

to dag: fuck censorship of any kind. if there are racists and bigots on the sift, let them speak out, so we know who to avoid in the future. I mean, why did you introduce the ignore button then?!?

The difference between the comment you are referring to and westy's comment, is that Majortomyorke included a at the end of the comment, implying sarcasm.

There is no immediate way to gauge the tone of Westy's racist comment and so we must conclude that his intent was a literal statement that "black people... are monkeys."

Even upon further analysis (after westy explained that it isn't intended to be racist), I cannot see anything sarcastic, satiric, funny, or clever about it.


I'm with Spoco2: if it should be so clearly innocent to all of us, why can't anyone explain it?


>> ^Pprt:
My God all this paranoia about racism.
People foam at the mouth at the very hint of race being mentioned. For a bunch of post-religious liberal hipsters, most of you aren't much unlike those who imprisoned Galileo.
Yes his comment was distasteful, but talk about a storm in a teacup. (Yet this equally disturbing comment merits no attention.)
Hitler's great posthumous legacy is the absolutely panicked and desperate attitudes Europeans take on race.

humor does not satire make.

i hate to quote a dictionary...but...what other option is there at this point?

"the use of irony, sarcasm, riducule, or the like, in exposing, denouncing, or deriding vice, folly etc."

if westy's comment is not that listed above, satire does not exist. the use of satire is far more interesting as are those who know how to use it. how boring would life be if everyone expressed themself at a fifth grade level?

"racism's bad, mmkay"

Unfortunately, the problem with satire is that it can be too similar to the behaviour that its trying to ridicule to differentiate. Of course its ridiculous to honestly think that black people literally are monkeys, but many real die-hard cross burning racists of the worst kind say that sort of thing in all earnestness. Considering that Westy's comment came completely out of the blue and had no hint of irony, sarcasm, or ridicule, surely you can see how some of us might have confused his statement with racism.

When your a raging Homophobe and racist such as myself its hard to contain it day in day out, everyone once in a while you are going to let slip.

Its like that time i was at gay pride in Brighton and i got mobbed by gays.

"the problem with satire is that it can be too close to the behavior its trying to ridicule"

its not so much the problem, as it is the definition

I was joking. I'm not Asian, therefore I'm putting myself down.
Don't hate me, hate my inferior DNA.

Also, white people smell funny.
(don't believe me? Come to my house, I'll prove my point)

>> ^Pprt:
My God all this paranoia about racism.
People foam at the mouth at the very hint of race being mentioned. For a bunch of post-religious liberal hipsters, most of you aren't much unlike those who imprisoned Galileo.
Yes his comment was distasteful, but talk about a storm in a teacup. (Yet this equally disturbing comment merits no attention.)
Hitler's great posthumous legacy is the absolutely panicked and desperate attitudes Europeans take on race.

i registered this account just to say that westy is a fucking genius, and the way he makes dullards and airheads run around "debating" things is probably the most intricately beautiful parody of parodies that I have ever witnessed. You think westy is joking? lol, read what he writes, he is deadly serious, consistent and quite happy to answer any questions you have (with answers you might not understand due to low IQ or arrogance or embarassment or whatever your problem is)

last time i checked, quantumushroom wasn't hobbled for his outrageously stupid comments against "liberals"... and he does it with zero finesse. Oh, but that's not skin colour, right?

Like kulpims said, wtf is "ignore" for? I guess with comments like the banana comment, westy got ignored by everyone who doesn't understand satire, problem solved. you want to ban him so even his supporters can't enjoy his contributions? You're so frikkin stupid.

Westy did what all the greatest intellectuals have always done, he tested the limits and fucked with your simple heads. Dag, in defending your actions you have merely exposed your own stupidity and hypocrisy, as westy pointed out to you. That is uberninjasatire. You don't even realise it's happening to you. God westy, i am hot for your "short blocks of text". The amount of utterly lame commenting on here that's spelled correctly and doesn't mention race is TOO HIGH.

For more information see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTifRi3qDkU

I dislike Caucasians, black people, Asians, Mexicans, green people, gray people, spooks, spicks, spocks, and the Dutch...

and every other name you can think of.

Everyone sucks - racially.