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Where's the Dog Whisperer when you need him?

"lets hump these bitches!"

i've never heard of tatooing on dogs. I'm inclined to think that it has something to do with neutering?

i LOVE pits too. I have a pit/shepherd mix and he's the biggest lap dog. Goes to show you its not the breed, its the owner/trainer

The inside of a dog's ear can be tattooed with an ID number to help identify the dog if it gets lost, the tattoo isn't very big. The SPCA usually tattoos the dog when it's being spayed/neutered (if it doesn't already have a tattoo), because the dog is already unconscious. They could microchip the dog but I think it's cheaper to tattoo and there is no special equipment needed to read the tattoo unlike a microchip.

>> ^smooman:
i've never heard of tatooing on dogs. I'm inclined to think that it has something to do with neutering?

Hmmm, I'd like a lick or two...

I've never known a full-blooded pit bull, but I did live with a pit/great dane mix once. She behaved exactly like Ginger...believing she was a lap dog, and wanting nothing more than to share kisses all day long. Sweet dog, but I'm sorry...180 pounds is just too big for -my- lap.

That was adorable. Someone should show this to the fuckers in government here in Ontario. That "vicious" breed has been banned here for about a year I think.

So much for the vicious breed. Yep. Tell that to the people who's kids have been killed by a pit bull. It's mostly the owner and not the dog, that's pretty obvious. Also obvious that if Pit Bull and Rottie breeds are responsible for 67% of the dog related deaths in the US, then maybe, just maybe, there's something up with the characteristics the breed(s) have been fostering.

I wouldn't hold that against Ginger. I do the same thing when I'm around attractive women.

I've wanted to lick Randene's face for a couple of years now.

Anybody have some peanut butter handy?

EDIT: for the pit bull, that is... the other one might be a bit dangerous.

Uh it really does not matter if its the breed or the owner. I mean say its the owner not the breed then even with restrictions on who owns one some bad owner will get through. And to what degree of a bad owner do you have to be? If it just takes a few bad incidents to set the dog off and it kills a kid than is it worth it? I really think owning one should be just as if you owned a tiger or any other animal that can be tamed but keeps its wild instincts and has the strength to kill.

Pitbulls are dogs, not tigers. A scary name doesn't make a dog any more dangerous. I call my dogs dragons sometimes, but to my knowledge, they have neither breathed fire, nor eaten any virgins.

Breed specific legislation is fucking asinine. It is completely about the owner.

Insurance is a different story. A bigger dog can do more damage, just like a faster/heavier car. Any car is unsafe in the hands of a bad driver.

I was a bit skeptical about vonriesling's claim of 67% of dog related deaths attributed to pits and rotties. While looking it up, I came across this link.
The analysis seems to be very balanced and makes some interesting points. Everything from the larger size and power of pitbulls and rottweilers and the attraction they have to "asshole" owners, to the tendancy of pitbulls to not give warning before attacking.
Unfortunately the author couldn't come to any conclusion on how to deal with the more dangerous breeds other than breed-specific laws being unfair and hard to enforce, and to educate people of the possible risks associated with them, but I personally think that could apply to all medium to large breeds.

They eat their own poo.

>> ^blankfist:
They eat their own poo.

that's downright efficient in my book

So, to join on the dead horse of an argument...

Yeah, I used to be of the opinion that Pit Bulls were "misunderstood" and hated on for no reason - it's the owner not the breed, right?

Well, then my basset hound got attacked by one. This wasn't a situation where my hound provoked anything, mind you - she was hiding under a chair. Next thing I know the pit's mouth is around her neck. I was punching this dog in the face and in the stomach as hard as I could and it would not let go. Luckily hounds have loose skin and after about 8 minutes or so the pit let go because it couldn't breathe after we covered its nostrils.

Was the pit mistreated when it was raised? Yes - the guy was a complete douche and bragged about keeping a bat around to deal with it (he also ran out on most of the medical costs for our dog).

But what if the guy had a miniature schnauzer instead? It wouldn't have ended up the way our situation did. It would still be unfortunate that the dog was mistreated and the guy deserved to have the bat taken to his head, but my dog wouldn't have been almost ripped to shreds.

Another thing that needs to be considered about pits is that they may be perfectly cool around humans or even most dogs, but you put them in a room with another dog that triggers something and they can snap.

Ban pits.

oh and pits are very lovable and VERY strong. Even when they play they can be extremely intimidating. The fact is you have to be very very strong to train them. Just yanking on a regular leash is like a game to them. Get them and train them at a young age and they're just as sweet as can be.

In Aus, pit-bulls are declared dangerous dogs and are actually illegal to own without a permit.

So here is my 'totally no pit bull in there' Rottweiler/Mastiff/Ridgeback cross Boomer...

http://i85.servimg.com/u/f85/11/45/02/64/dsc00210.jpg

She looks so vicious as well... =)

Well, that's what I would do.

Fuck pitbulls, and FUCK YOU pitbull owners. Go pursue an inane cause that doesn't require everyone around you to accept the premise that "don't worry, this bomb I bring everywhere won't go off while your kids are around. I'm a responsible bomb owner. Just don't make any sudden movements or anything that could potentially be taken as a threat, around my totally harmless bomb, or otherwise it might harmlessly rip your fucking face off."

The first time I let my dog within biting distance of a friend's Pit, she got bitten really hard, even though the owners were my friends, the dog knew me, and everyone was gathered around urging the Pit to be calm as we introduced the dogs. No warning, their Pit just clamped on the fucking neck of my black lab. If not for an instantaneous and well-placed kick in the side of the face from the Pit's owner, my dog's jugular probably would have been ripped in two. I imagined how I would feel if it had been my niece or nephews, and came to this conclusion: FUCK PITBULLS.... just because they're licking your face one moment doesn't mean they're not going to eat it off you the first fuckign excuse you give them.

The other weak-ass part of Pit owners' argument is this: When a black lab or even a german shephard decides to bite a person, a second person of reasonable strength can rescue that first person from the dog (if the first person can't rescue themselves). This is not really the case with Pits, unless the third person is willing to put themselves at risk (by trying to "wheelbarrow" the Pit for instance), or become seriously violent and murderous in attacking the dog (by picking up a brick and bludgeoning it in the fucking skull).

I had been around a lot of Pit Bulls as a kid, my aunt bred them and she gave us one and my grandparents one. They were one of the most affectionate dogs I've ever seen. Granted their affection and size didn't always have the best of results... I remember being dragged out the front door by our dog while I was holding his collar when we opened the door to greet a friend, he just ran up tried to lick him.

I've never seen a dog not give an indication of their mood before attacking, there's always some sort of warning unless you manage to suprise the dog. Pretty much all animals need to be closely watched when being introduced to something new. As for the claims that Pit Bulls having some sort of magic immunity to pain, I've never seen it. Our dogs always reacted to a smack as you'd expect, but they also never attacked any people or pets... however my 12inch Chewbacca did meet his demise in the mouth of our Pit.

>> ^budzos:
Go pursue an inane cause that doesn't require everyone around you to accept the premise that "don't worry, this bomb I bring everywhere won't go off while your kids are around. I'm a responsible bomb owner.


and my wife, when she was 4 years old, had her face half torn off by an old german sheppard who had been peaceful and friendly all it's life. Totally unexpected, she was playing with it as she had done many times before and it just turned, latched on and proceeded to eat the chunk of her left cheek it had removed.

Animals, like humans, can snap and there doesn't have to be any rhyme or reason to it. So feel free to shove your rhetoric up your ass where your head is already firmly planted.

I don't know much about them, but it's my understanding that Pits as a 'breed' (they're not just a breed, I know) were bred to be aggressive toward other dogs and to not be aggressive toward (adult) humans. Kids probably exist in some sort of limbo. And of course there're going to be variations in temperament depending on the exact breeding and raising and training. Still, I don't think you should be surprised when the generally-super-sweet pit bull attacks your dog.

Due to their reputation, a pitbull is more likely to be owned by a douchebag. "It's not the gun that's dangerous, it's the guy behind the trigger". Problem is, with Pit Bulls, that gun doesn't have a safety and it's always loaded and cocked.

Terriers of all types are known for their aggression and tenacity, THEY WERE ALL BRED FOR IT. Pit Bulls were bred for traits useful in dog fighting rings. Traits that do not "play well with others."

Just because your dog doesn't have those traits active, doesn't mean they're not there. Although, I bet more than a few people who had their Pit Bull "freak out for no reason" also thought it was really cool the dog routinely tore apart that tire swing in their back yard.

E.V.E.R.Y.O.N.E. who buys a Pit Bull is buying into that mystique. Don't fucking say otherwise, you KNOW it's true. You want to walk down the street and have people and their dogs move away from you. You want to be known as "that guy with the Pit Bull". There is no other reason to own THAT PARTICULAR BREED. There are other breeds with traits and looks that are equal to if not better than a Pit Bull.

"I own a Suzuki Hayabusa for the fuel mileage and to reduce my carbon footprint."
Bullshit.

"I own an Escalade for the improved road view."
Bullshit.

"I own a Pit Bull cuz they're so cuddly-wuddly."
Bullshit.

>> ^vonriesling:
So much for the vicious breed. Yep. Tell that to the people who's kids have been killed by a pit bull. It's mostly the owner and not the dog, that's pretty obvious. Also obvious that if Pit Bull and Rottie breeds are responsible for 67% of the dog related deaths in the US, then maybe, just maybe, there's something up with the characteristics the breed(s) have been fostering.


Flawed reasoning i'm afraid. Statistical anomilies can be translated in a variety of different ways. Such as maybe...just maybe... certain breeds of dogs atrract certain breeds of assholes.

It's the assholes you need to ban, not the dogs.

And payback - all dogs have that instinct and streak in them. All dogs go batshit crazy from time to time - ALL OF THEM. It's just that some dogs are bigger than other dogs, and are capable of tearing a tire apart. Some are only capable of tearing your newspaper apart. Some of them are capable of tearing - unfortunately - a person/small child apart, and even more unfortunately, some get that opportunity.

And when that opportunity arises, and the dog has the batshit crazy moment, we end up with tragic results.

It's the asshole who owns the dog. I speak from a lifetime of dog experience and i will never be convinced otherwise.

My dog is the most placid lovely dog you could possibly hope to meet. He's a very very strong athletic and muscly chocolate lab. The other day he snapped at me for taking a bone away from him - i've NEVER heard him do that, ever, i've never seen that side of him. Like i've always said - i could trust my dog with a baby, i'd be almost 100% certain he'd never attack a baby. BUT WHY WOULD YOU?

Upvote for 2:40 though... "SNIFF MY BUTT!!"

The problem with Pit Bulls is not that they're any more likely then other dogs to be vicious. The problem is that the very few that are vicious have the ability to fucking kill you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull#United_States_Centers_for_Disease_Control_and_Prevention_.282000.29

To be fair, the most intelligent animal on the planet (humans) have been known to snap, become violently aggressive and harm other animals for no reason other than because they can.

It's a side effect of being sentient and breed/owner/genetic disposition/upbringing/whatever, shit happens.

anyone else catch the "cut the cheese" joke at the very end?

http://www.cdc.gov/ncipc/duip/dogbreeds.pdf

Per the above study over 50% of dog bite related fatalities in the US between 1979 and 1998 were caused by Pit Bulls and Rottweiler type dogs. That being said Dannym is right in that statistics can be skewed by unidentified factors. Its difficult in a study of dog attacks to determine that X% of the owners involved also had meth labs or were training the dogs for fighting or were just simply morons. However, even if you could identify all such factors I think you would find that the type of owner does not have a statistically significant effect on the numbers. We've all seen those news broadcasts where the owners try to defend their dog and in my experience the majority seem to be average people. And what do they all say? "My sweetie-pie has always been a gentle and affectionate dog, I don't understand how this could happen" or "That three year old must have done something to provoke her" Its all bullshit anyways. The only control or regulation that could possibly have any possible effect on the numbers is to ban the breed. Difficult to enforce but a hell of a lot easier than any attempt to control who can or cannot own one.

I say again: FUCK YOU pitbull owners.

If you dont ban them then you need a law that says any owner is responsible just like in gun laws and should go to jail for murder whether or not they were good or bad owners.