What if they change their mind AFTER they drink the tea?

I know it happens.

I suggest you make damn sure they want the tea and that will happen less.

This metaphor really doesn't work in Ireland.



You might think I'm joking, but I have had cups of tea literally* forced on me by old women.

* yes, literally.

You stick your finger down their throat and help them undrink the tea.

My question, what if they passed out because they have scurvy and desperately NEED the tea!? Still no tea?

You probably used some of that weird herbal tea.


Perv.

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So when the waiter trips and spills it on your lap, that's just "Surprise Tea"?

I'm still trying to figure out what the "making tea" metaphor is supposed to represent. Are people fluffing before gametime or something these days?

I think it's called "fore-play". You're not just...adding cold water to a teabag and drinking it down immediately are you? That's not how to have enjoyable tea.

@Jinx. Beautifully said.

I got arrested once for going into a store and trying to buy an iced tea.

Not sure if this is a prostitution or necrophilia joke.

Then they have tea regret. Everyone has tea regret sometimes.

What if I make some tea now, but I like to drink it cold a few hours later?
Also what about coffee?

What about women who say they don't want tea but really they do?

Now THAT is an easy question to answer.

No tea for them.

If they aren't mature enough, or sexually aware enough, to make a clear tea choice, don't have tea with them.

If they grow up, and learn to take responsibility for their own tea choices, THEN you can have tea together.

(Besides, how do you know they really want tea, if they don't say anything? You may be wrong. You don't want to be wrong about something as important as sharing tea, do you?)

This video's about sharing tea. What you do with your own tea is nobody's business but your own

Don't be hard on me for being so thick, as I'm not trying to pull a boner, but in this metaphor does "making tea" mean manufacturing an erection and presenting it?

Can't think how it could make sense otherwise.

Sadly that can be true, and long after not be true anymore. There shouldn't be any takesies backsies after the fact, that's just silly, and yet here we are.

Yeah, but what is more interesting is to ask WHY there are takesies backsies.

And if as the tea maker you really understand that can happen, and don't let tea making become your biological imperative, and help stop the tea shaming that this society engages is, I'll repeat myself. Because it is an important point to really let land.

There will be much less takesies backsies if everyone slows down and really consents to drinking tea. (And much less forced tea drinking, where the guy doesn't even know he is forcing the tea drinking and can play all butt hurt -- she said she wanted tea!)

There are mentally disturbed people of both genders who get involved in tea drinking. Both genders need to be more careful about who they drink tea with, who they are alone with.

I do think that's a good direct physical meaning for the metaphor. I also think that could be interpreted more broadly with a man building the expectation of having sex. Like you're on a date and things are going well and then you get back to your place and y'know for whatever reason she just isn't in to it that night. You've 'made tea' by having a good time together and then something shifts and she's not into it any more at the moment. That's fine we'll make some tea and have it another night.

But if the guy doesn't even know he's actually forcing her to drink tea, how much responsibility can the guy be reasonably expected to take on? She says yes, perhaps even emphatically so and then gives no indication that she has changed her mind all throughout the act and only changes her mind the morning after.
According to this video he did everything he should have and yet he may still wind up being accused of forcing tea on someone.
As for the mentally disturbed, there are many people with mental conditions that can seem perfectly normal on the outside. You have to crank the handle a good number of times before the song ends and the Jack pops out of the box.

In your scenario, he has an emphatic yes, yes, yes, I want to drink tea with you, he has done his due diligence.

Until we get less crazy around sex in this Puritan country, and even after, there will be mentally disturbed people who say yes and then say no.

But here's something you probably don't know. Women are conditioned to be polite. They are conditioned to be nice. They say no while smiling, and that is a definite mixed message. As someone "joked" already on this comment stream, what about the women who say no but really mean yes?

All the stuff in the prior paragraph is NOT CONSENT to drink tea.

So yeah, it sucks eggs large that there are women out there who don't take responsibility for their own choices, and for whatever fucked up reason, change their mind later.

But those are the minority, dear Scud.

The majority are women who smiling say no and don't speak up while, in their minds, they are having tea forced upon them. Or who go paralyzed and are silent. That happens. That happens a crushingly high number of times in this world.

Here's a true story, to give you a peek into how screwed up we train our young women to be. I heard this in a self defense class. A young woman was held in a dorm room for two days, having tea forced on her repeatedly. She could hear people walking in the hallway, who could have come to her aid. Why didn't she yell out? If she could hear them, then they could hear her. The guy didn't have weapon, just the threat of physical force. So why didn't she yell out for help?

She didn't want to make a scene.

Isn't that awful? Isn't that crappy?

We tell our girls to be nice and pleasant. And the message gets perverted, yeah?

The plus side is she got herself to a really good self defense class that taught her to speak up and make a scene and gave her some physical skills to deal with any tea forcing behavior. It won't be happening to her again.

But I'm telling you, dear Scud. This nice pleasant woman, if she had been asked, would have said no, no thank, I don't want any tea. If she was asked. And you don't know if you have a meek person or a loudmouth like me. So you need to ask. And ask again. And make it fun while you ask, because it is sexy as hell to say yes, please, more tea. Give me more tea. Put that tea right there.

Oh yes, I'm quite aware of the fact that women in the U.S. (and other parts of the world as well) are programmed to be submissive and polite, to a fault. Smiling and saying 'No' is still no in my book, but there are plenty of idiots out there who don't really consider it a 'No' until she's macing you in the face and screaming it at the top of her lungs, anything less than that is still a maybe to them. But that is a problem with the conditioning of men, not women.
And for everyone's sake I hope that the instances of women falsely reporting rape is as rare as you say it is, because when that happens, it hurts everybody. For the record, I had a friend a few years back who was falsely accused by a woman he slept with, it never actually went into the legal system but she accused him personally.
I've heard the story of the woman held in to dorm room as well and it is an utter atrocity. But just as false accusations are probably rare, crimes of this magnitude are probably also the exception rather than the rule. Most rapes probably happen between two people who know each other, and everything happens behind closed doors so it becomes a big game of he said/she said, I don't envy the people who have to try and get to the truth in those situations.
I guess what I am concerned about is that with the weight of all those years of ignoring legitimate rape reports we will start falling all over ourselves to convict every guy at the merest hint of an accusation. And a guy who has been falsely accused/convicted of rape is every bit as much of a victim as a woman who has been raped.

@00Scud00
Glad to know you know about women being too nice. And then there is the old canard "boys will be boys." I've been saying for years that we need to learn from each other. Men need to work on empathy and women need to work on straightforwardness.

This video isn't meant to rehash the past, though. It is a template for good hearted and well meaning tea drinkers to go into the future thinking about things differently.

Not all tea drinkers are well meaning, of course.

But first we need to define consent. Boys learn to ask and girls learn to speak up clearly.

And then practice practice practice, yeah?

I'm sitting in an office of 7 other guys, and its my turn to make tea for them all

Well... at least you're the one making the tea...

I can't believe he forgot to remind the viewers to put a condom in the teacup. If people say it tastes better without a condom, just refuse to drink it.