One of my fondest fantasies there.

Some may laugh at him... but I wouldn't mind trading places with him one bit.

stereotypeformation.

It's rare to see females wrestle. Or at least it was rare when I wrestled my 9th grade year. But because there wasn't a female wrestling team in most high schools, we would catch the occasional girl wrestling. It wasn't often and most of them were terrible, but, hey, I'm all about gender equality, so more the merrier! Still, the handful of them that I saw, they were all crap. Crap with boobies.

I think that there might have been some hesitation on his part because he was thinking of the huge slap he would have received if he had touched her rear.

566 views in a couple hours for a random girl wrestling a random boy while (for example) lykke li and bon iver get only 20 views in more than a day? :'(

maybe i should spam more? (even http://www.videosift.com/video/Vice-President-Sarah-Palin-ft-John-McCain gets only 6 views from logged in members)

>> ^berticus:
stereotypeformation.


looks like a boobie.

Thats good for her.

Tangent:
I have never been fond of wrestling or this MMA stuff. Because most of my training has revolved around neutralizing a threat with the least amount of effort and the most amount of prejudice (because grappling with some one requires that I break a sweat). Believe it or not, learning to do these ultimate killing moves is rather easy. its as simple as repeating them until they are ingrained in your head, but there is a draw back. If the proper amount of stimuli is applied, to a person that is trained in this fashion, it can cause unwanted results. As in killing or maiming some one who wasn't a threat (IE a friendly or worse a loved one). The same way that a soldier may sleep lightly and lash out at some one who tries to wake them up, or how a police officer reaches for their gun when they aren't wearing it.

But what is good about these sports is that they teach a principle and not just the ability to kill.

In a sports match (or training setting) there are unlisted rules, you don't really want or need to kill the opponent.

People will always say, well none of that hocus pocus martial arts super killing techniques actually work in a cage fight. That's because there are rules against breaking some ones neck, or gouging the eyes (this type of maiming is taught often to self defense students). And in these settings you want to win a fight legally and not end up in jail because some one was murdered.

What does this mean? In short, nobody knows what the fuck is going to happen, as we have seen in this video.

Why so surprised?

Duh. I'd let her win, too. She could win rematch after rematch after rematch, until she was carrying my child.

^So THAT'S how blankfist got pregnant!

Nice vid, but it doesn't seem real.

He would have a weight and strength advantage - particularly in the upper body - too great to be overcome unless there was a large skill gap, and they appear to have roughly equal skill.

The match wasn't long enough for the possibility of greater conditioning to come into play.


(Not that girls can't kick serious ass.)

^I think it went down fair and square, no fakitude involved. Too many people in the gallery, i.e., the witnesses, played it straight. There aren't that many teens who could have played it as convincingly as they did.

I've seen guys taken down by dudes 50% smaller than them. So have most people who haven't lived a sheltered life. So why can't a woman do the same? Seriously. I see your point, chilaxe, but to me it simply doesn't hold water. I mean no insult whatsoever, but I think you're underestimating this young lady's ability, or overestimating the acting talent of the crowd, or both.

Again, no offense. Just one man's humble opinion.

>> ^chilaxe:
Nice vid, but it doesn't seem real.
He would have a weight and strength advantage - particularly in the upper body - too great to be overcome unless there was a large skill gap, and they appear to have roughly equal skill.
The match wasn't long enough for the possibility of greater conditioning to come into play.

(Not that girls can't kick serious ass.)


Grappling is more about technique than raw power. Harnessing the power of leverage against a foe only takes a fraction of the power to offer several multiples of the level of pain and restriction your are applying. He lacked in form or underestimated his opponent, perhaps even by thinking he could mussel his way out of any problem he got into...which just isn't the case with arm locks and such.

Danna beats Goliath

This is how pornos start.

>> ^kronosposeidonI've seen guys taken down by dudes 50% smaller than them. So have most people who haven't lived a sheltered life. So why can't a woman do the same?"

Exactly, then why the Title? it contradicts your statement. I kid you not...it does.

^Why the title? Because it's an unexpected outcome. Most of the time men can and do beat women in activities that involve strength. Just ask any woman who has been in a relationship that involved domestic violence. That's not sexist; it's just a fact. Men on the whole are bigger than women, and therefore they are generally stronger than women, and therefore they are generally able to physically subdue their female counterparts. Obviously strength isn't everything, as this video clearly demonstrates. Still, if I had used no title, tags, or description for this video, virtually everyone here, women included, would have expected the dude to win, especially when it's obvious that he easily outweighs her by 40 or 50 lbs. I kid you not.

I can't believe I actually have to explain this. I kid you not.

I for one would like to see some one use a Sankyo or a Suwari Waza Katadori Shihonage Ignore the knife parts (kneeling wrist grabe to arm break over the shoulder - this can be done with out hurting the oponent ... to much.)

Before Every one screams OMG UNREALISTIC... its a demonstration, and the attacks are done deliberately this way so the teacher can teach as well as the student can survive with out a broken arm.

I would tape some of my practices... but its forbidden to tape practice, because I have to get every ones consent.

She has a pretty good sprawl while he seems green.

Just looking on that above post, i saw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX-hGLuheDc&feature=related

How on earth is that taken seriously? I understand the intention of demonstrations, and how they can be changed or manipulated to suit a situation, however these people are simply falling over for him. He moves his hand towards them and then literally flop down like a house of cards.

The knife one was alright, and elements of it could definitely be used in a real situation.

>> ^dannym3141:
Just looking on that above post, i saw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX-hGLuheDc&feature=related
How on earth is that taken seriously? I understand the intention of demonstrations, and how they can be changed or manipulated to suit a situation, however these people are simply falling over for him. He moves his hand towards them and then literally flop down like a house of cards.
The knife one was alright, and elements of it could definitely be used in a real situation.


That is Ukemi, and that is what gives Aikido a bad name. We could argue all day.
In a lot of these movements particularly sankyo nage there is immediate pain, and flopping down will let the other guy know that it hurts... like hell.
Ukemi is an integral part to practicing safely, in this way every one can live though 2 hours on the mat.
When you are more experienced you can go as fast as you like so long as you are ready for the injuries that will come with that.

In a real situation you do what you were trained to do, in my training I would reach for a weapon.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
^Why the title? Because it's an unexpected outcome. Most of the time men can and do beat women in activities that involve strength. Just ask any woman who has been in a relationship that involved domestic violence. That's not sexist; it's just a fact. Men on the whole are bigger than women, and therefore they are generally stronger than women, and therefore they are generally able to physically subdue their gender counterparts. Obviously strength isn't everything, as this video clearly demonstrates. Still, if I had used no title, tags, or description for this video, virtually everyone here, women included, would have expected the dude to win. I kid you not.
I can't believe I actually have to explain this. I kid you not.


So what? unexpected outcomes don't have to be put in such "omfg no way in hell" manner.
As if unexpected outcomes in sports were this super rare event only happening every 1000 years.

The first part of the title conveys the message of your posts which I agree with, but the kid you not part is baggage.

^Straight from the book of "One Person's Opinion."

>> ^NordlichReiter:
>> ^dannym3141:
Just looking on that above post, i saw:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX-hGLuheDc&feature=related
How on earth is that taken seriously? I understand the intention of demonstrations, and how they can be changed or manipulated to suit a situation, however these people are simply falling over for him. He moves his hand towards them and then literally flop down like a house of cards.
The knife one was alright, and elements of it could definitely be used in a real situation.

That is Ukemi, and that is what gives Aikido a bad name. We could argue all day.
In a lot of these movements particularly sankyo nage there is immediate pain, and flopping down will let the other guy know that it hurts... like hell.
Ukemi is an integral part to practicing safely, in this way every one can live though 2 hours on the mat.
When you are more experienced you can go as fast as you like so long as you are ready for the injuries that will come with that.
In a real situation you do what you were trained to do, in my training I would reach for a weapon.


I believe he was mentioning the throws that were totally unrealistic, like the one where they each have two hands on an arm, and he just tosses them by swinging his arms and stepping forward. Most of Aikido is bullshit, learn Judo.

I went to a high school with 2 female wrestlers. They were pretty too, nice slim physique, not total behemoths. Once you see it, you realize there's really nothing astonishing by it. Since most of wrestling is technique in take downs, counters, counter counters, counter counter counters, etc...the person with the better understanding and both physical and mental speed will often times prevail. I suppose before you've seen it, it could be surprising, though.

But see, rottenseed, nobody cares.

EDIT: For those of you without humor receptors in your neurological makeup, I'm teasing rottenseed, because he's my friend. Because I care.

Could this be Bristol Palin kicking the ass of the guy who got her pregnant?

^LOL!

>> ^kronosposeidon:
^Straight from the book of "One Person's Opinion."

Nice, the circularity of that statement goes well with the title.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
But see, rottenseed, nobody cares.
EDIT: For those of you without humor receptors in your neurological makeup, I'm teasing rottenseed, because he's my friend. Because I care.

Just wondering...do you have a personal record of everything I have ever posted on this site? I mean, to be able to pull that up within minutes of reading my response, you're either the smartest man alive or the creepiest stalker I've had yet [flattered].

It's like you know me...*blush*

I like this. I think its totally legit (meaning he's fighting back trying not to loose, it's NOT good cred for him...) and whilst not too surprising (not because its not rare, but because it looks like she has some skill, and so has stuck with it, and that's less likely if this was never possible for her to achieve) certainly worth watching.

And i dont think im a bad person for thinking that she can wrestle me to the floor and smother me with her chest any day she wants (and generally wishing someone would) because I'm human. And that's not a crime neither

so people get turned on by this or something? thats kinda sweet

>> ^mauz15:
>> ^kronosposeidon:
^Straight from the book of "One Person's Opinion."

Nice, the circularity of that statement goes well with the title.

Fixed the title for you.

I watched my friend, who's about 5 feet and 135 pounds, take down a man who was 6'6" and about 300 pounds. I KID YOU NOT, KP. I KID YOU FUCKING NOT!

^If mauz15 was there he would have known the outcome even before those two encountered each other. He's kind of like a Jedi. I kid you not.

Are you kidding me?

>> ^kronosposeidon:
^If mauz15 was there he would have known the outcome even before those two encountered each other. He's kind of like a Jedi. I kid you not.

Now i'll upvote seeing as mauz15 knew it from the start. That changes everything.

"I kid you not" in the title could definitely be seen as demeaning. Sure it seems more likely for the guy to win, but it's not as if it's unfathomable for the woman to win. "I kid you not" would be more suited to trail a title like "Man summons fire from fingertips".

Nobody should be that amazed by this unless they think women are completely and drastically inferior.

^Did the crowd that was there not act slightly astonished at the outcome?

And is "I kid you not" synonymous with "Oh my fucking God in heaven! This is a fucking miracle! This has to be CGI because there's NO WAY a girl could beat a guy, and why isn't she in the kitchen in the first place?" Maybe, but probably not. More likely it means, "Mmm, I did not expect that."

Believe whatever you want about what my four little words meant. Just remember that beliefs don't always convert to reality. This isn't church. It's just a video with a harmless title, unless you're hyper-sensitive.

Just because someone claims he or she is being sexually harrassed doesn't mean it's always so. And just because someone says that the outcome shouldn't be surprising doesn't mean that most people won't be surprised. Hence my usage of the four little words that shook the Sift.

Wait, you say the Sift is NOT shaken because of four words!? But I just wrote it, and if it's written then it MUST be true!

Nobody cares.

seems to me like some aren't fully appreciating the

50-pound weight difference

as an additional source of surprise.

http://www.mixedwrestlingisrael.com/ hehehe

This happens to me every time I go to the bar...

^As always, you've got a knack for blowing things out of proportion. I didn't say you were sexist, I just said it could be read that way.

"I kid you not" implies disbelief. All I'm saying is there shouldn't be any reason not to believe "Girl beats dude in wrestling."

Is it wrong that I found the comments more interesting than the vid?

The girl did a great job of capitalizing on the fact the guy wasn't taking her seriously. But if they went best two out of three, my money would be on the guy.

^As always, your air of smug superiority is annoying, overcast.

Don't tell me how to name my videos. I've managed quite nicely all this time without your assistance. If mauz15 and you want to read something sinister into my words I can't stop you, but I will defend myself from baseless accusations. If you've read the rest of my comments in this thread then you'll realize that I praised this girl's wrestling skills in the face of an opponent who outweighed her by 49 lbs. So to imply that the meaning of my words might be sexist when my intention clearly was not sexist is stupid and lazy at best and malicious at worst.

Those "graphs" are so vague and so far from being scientific it's ridiculous.


>> ^berticus:
stereotypeformation.

They illustrate a point, one that has been robustly supported by evidence since the 50s. If you want, you can go and spend hours reading about intergroup behaviour, social cognition, social identity theory, the accentuation effect, the relative homogeneity effect, etc etc. It was just easier to sum up in 2 simple graphs. In actual fact, the graphs don't represent the extremity of the accentuation effect.

>> ^deedub81:
Those "graphs" are so vague and so far from being scientific it's ridiculous.

For christ's sake. Everyone knows men are stronger and women are better at washing the dishes, why the semantics. Celebrate our strengths and weaknesses, and if one day a man comes along and makes the wine glasses sparklier than I do, then i'll be sure to film it and put it on the sift, cos that would make for some controversial viewing, I kid you not

Am sorry but smothering with boobs is a violation of wrestling rules and regulations. I say she be disqualified.

>> ^xxovercastxx:
^As always, you've got a knack for blowing things out of proportion. I didn't say you were sexist, I just said it could be read that way.
"I kid you not" implies disbelief. All I'm saying is there shouldn't be any reason not to believe "Girl beats dude in wrestling."


Why not? It's pure fact that females are, as a whole, physically weaker than males. There's plenty of reason not to believe it.
1)Males are generally stronger
2)Males are generally bigger
3)Males are generally more used to rough play/wrestling

There's at least three reasons not to believe "Girl beats dude in wrestling." But yes, there are plenty of females that could kick my ass.

Amazing how you missed the point poseidon.

>> ^alien_concept:
For christ's sake. Everyone knows men are stronger and women are better at washing the dishes, why the semantics. Celebrate our strengths and weaknesses, and if one day a man comes along and makes the wine glasses sparklier than I do, then i'll be sure to film it and put it on the sift, cos that would make for some controversial viewing, I kid you not


Alien,

I bet you ten bucks I could outsparkle you in the wineglass department.

A woman leaves the kitchen! I kid you not!

oy vey.

between the weight class and the effects of testosterone?
it's fairly impressive. that's all.

and i don't see any comments here that should've been construed as insulting.
to men or women, except in very obvious humor.

i'm 6', 180 lbs.
and would not expect to be able to pin some roided-up dude clocking in at 230.

This is all about probabilities, and everyone here knows and has enough brains to figure out the factors that affect the likelihood of a woman winning against a man in wrestling (size, physic laws, strength, muscle volume, etc, etc)

So it is vacuous to add a redundancy like that. not only vacuous but makes it unclear. Otherwise why would you at one point in this thread had to say there was nothing sexist about this? Do you think if the title was clear this would have happened? We dont need you to confirm that you are not really deceiving us. Thank you but we get it. Is not that I knew already, but by reading half the title we all know what is implied, period.

I kid you not is ambiguous, and with anything ambiguous, there would be different responses. If this is the case then why bother adding ambiguity when the first half makes it clear enough?

Thanks for showing me what happens when I ask you a question, in mere inquisitive motive, not a demand, not a downvote, a simple 'why'

Hoping you give me another circular one liner. I love when people focus on the person instead of the motives for a question.

I kid you not.

>> ^Ryjkyj:
>> ^alien_concept:
For christ's sake. Everyone knows men are stronger and women are better at washing the dishes, why the semantics. Celebrate our strengths and weaknesses, and if one day a man comes along and makes the wine glasses sparklier than I do, then i'll be sure to film it and put it on the sift, cos that would make for some controversial viewing, I kid you not

Alien,
I bet you ten bucks I could outsparkle you in the wineglass department.


I'll see that bet and raise you a burnt pyrex dish and some silverware

mauz, you're being anal dude. Let it go man, chill Winston, relax...

<Redacted, because I was a shit.>

My personal opinion is that anyone who would take offense to "I kid you not" is really digging, but it clearly could be spun that way. I am not accusing you of sexism. Some people interpret words differently than others. All I am doing here is discussing possible interpretations, not telling anyone what to do. There's no need for childish name-calling. As far as I'm concerned the "baseless accusations" are all on your side of the fence.

>> ^xxovercastxx:
My personal opinion is that anyone who would take offense to "I kid you not" is really digging, but it clearly could be spun that way. I am not accusing you of sexism. Some people interpret words differently than others. All I am doing here is discussing possible interpretations, not telling anyone what to do. There's no need for childish name-calling. As far as I'm concerned the "baseless accusations" are all on your side of the fence.


Exactly. Simply asking and discussing interpretations. I did not take offense but asked 'why the title?' based on the comments he made. I have no clue where the assumptions of accusations of sexism and attacks come from

But then again, he missed the point, and termed this whole thing as an act of trolling.
I give up Poseidon, no educated answer for a simple question. Thanks anyways.

Id do er

<Redacted, because I was a twat.>

If i receive unsolicited advice,
this justifies a failed attempt of ridicule.

Yeah, that's logical. not emotional at all, no.

^I have come to the conclusion that this silly argument has gone well past its expiration date. I'm sorry for my role in allowing it to go this far. I have even changed the title. Peace?

He wrestled with a hot girl. How did he "lose"?

^He lost because he liked penis.

>> ^alien_concept:
For christ's sake. Everyone knows men are stronger and women are better at washing the dishes, why the semantics. Celebrate our strengths and weaknesses, and if one day a man comes along and makes the wine glasses sparklier than I do, then i'll be sure to film it and put it on the sift, cos that would make for some controversial viewing, I kid you not


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