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I smell suspension!

Noticed that earlier. 20 of 25 downvotes were given to gwizs videos. That whole attack on our "downvote-conspiracy" was just stupid, but let's give him a chance to explain and/or apologize before suspending him.

"...he just finished castrating the lot of us..."

Were you trying for castigating?

^Yes, but when I wrote castrate in its place, it made me laugh... so it stays, gorillaman. It stays!

Not again...

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Sound the Sifquisition gong! [Dons robe and ceremonial Sifter hat]

We've made it very clear that indiscriminate, vindictive down-voting is a no-no around here. Not only that, it's just a real dick move that pisses us off.

It would be good to hear from Siftquisitioned on this matter before we rush to judgment.

Why is everyone standing somberly in a circle with purple velvet robes on?

Oh! Oh.. My goodness. That is quite a large variety of marital aids gathered around that spit roast.. I'm, going.. Over to another town now.

You failed to mention the upvotes i added as well by the way at least get the story correct before you cast judgement.

So one person telling another to downvote a video is ok?

I didnt name the 2 people in question but they both were downvoting the same type of video. It looked like a "Tip-off" from one "sift-informer" to "sift-police":p How much are informers getting paid these days?

^ As was explained in the sifttalk post you started, Kronosposeidon got people to downvote HIS OWN video. It was meant as a joke, because something like that would never get sifted. Read their replies in the other post.

>> ^prisonpanda:
So one person telling another to downvote a video is ok?
I didnt name the 2 people in question but they both were downvoting the same type of video. It looked like a "Tip-off" from one "sift-informer" to "sift-police":p How much are informers getting paid these days?



It doesn't fucking matter who said what to whom to get them to downvote. It doesn't give you the right to go on a fucking spree.

the most important consideration that i've yet to see mentioned?

timecodes, plz?

ie. was this 15 downvotes in as many seconds, last night, and then upvoting a few, hours later, after 'busted'? or did he spend 10 min, go through his queue, and simply vote up and down as he saw fit?
need input, lucky!

>> ^prisonpanda:
> How much are informers getting paid these days?

and do yourself a favor. don't go there.

don't try making this about something other than your voting.

*ban

I really think blankfist needs to go...

blankfist cannot be banned because star accounts are immune to banination - ignoring ban request by rottenseed.

...oh this isn't about blankfist.

gwiz's videos suck anyway. That and he probably deserved it. That guy's an asshole.


[just kiddin' gwiz...you know I loves ya]

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Exhibit A: Time stamps for Prisonpanda's downvotes:
2008-09-17 11:28:05 Bill Maher - Christian 'Values Voters'
2008-09-17 11:27:16 Fire in the hole! - Pirates
2008-09-17 11:26:03 Diamonds - She'll pretty much have to
2008-09-17 11:24:26 Dire Straits - Telegraph Road (2 parts)

I could do more, but they are a pain to extract.

^Milk from my KP's tits are a pain to extract too, but that doesn't stop rottenseed.

>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> ^prisonpanda:
So one person telling another to downvote a video is ok?
I didnt name the 2 people in question but they both were downvoting the same type of video. It looked like a "Tip-off" from one "sift-informer" to "sift-police":p How much are informers getting paid these days?


It doesn't fucking matter who said what to whom to get them to downvote. It doesn't give you the right to go on a fucking spree.


Could you at least try to keep your language clean and not down in the gutter. Dont use that kind of language at me again.
Thanks in advance.

>> ^my15minutes:
don't try making this about something other than your voting.


>> ^prisonpanda:Could you at least try to keep your language clean and not down in the gutter. Dont use that kind of language at me again.
Thanks in advance.


I think that answers it. Ban him/her.

Ooh, what did I do to deserve such a fate as this!? Woe is gwiz.

I didn't even notice until I saw this post. Good thing blanky can't keep his eyes off my enticing portfolio.

^ fuck twat prick shit wank

Not really sure why this is being made into a deal at all. Clearly downvoting without watching the vids is unreasonable. And it's clear he hasn't watched those vids as there is one downvote per minute. Looks very much like his nose got put out of joint because of the response to his post and this was his reaction. Really nothing major, someone can go and upvote them all up to balance it out, no point in giving him a really hard time about it. But it definitely goes against how we're supposed to work things around here. Suspend and forget it says I!

As much as that's worth

>> ^rasch187:
>> ^my15minutes:
don't try making this about something other than your voting.

>> ^prisonpanda:Could you at least try to keep your language clean and not down in the gutter. Dont use that kind of language at me again.
Thanks in advance.

I think that answers it. Ban him/her.


I think that's a bit strong. This is obviously an idiot move which deserves some comeback, but hardly worthy of a ban. Like someone else said, he's not known as a bad guy, this is just some over-emotional crap that got out of hand.

I could gather that this is probably a response to my downvote on
http://wtf.videosift.com/video/Big-Belly-Man-Been-missing-you
and the response http://wtf.videosift.com/talk/Voting-here-is-like-blockvotes-at-Eurovision-song-Contest

Cry more and eat a cookie. That video was pure crap and fully deserved my downvote.

thanks ^dag.

so, there's consistently a minute or two inbetween, not just a few seconds.
could be fair, especially if the upvotes are mixed in with the downs.

oh. and fuck fuckitty fuckfuck.
sorry, but wrong crowd for the nun-with-a-ruler act, panda.

especially when all you had to say was yes, you actually watched the clips.
instead of diversions about informants and pottymouths.

everyone kiss and make up?

This post is riddled with point of views and perspectives.

I have several points to make, so stay with me here.
>> ^prisonpanda:
So one person telling another to downvote a video is ok?
I didnt name the 2 people in question but they both were downvoting the same type of video. It looked like a "Tip-off" from one "sift-informer" to "sift-police":p How much are informers getting paid these days?


Did you follow them because that's how they were voting or did you do it because they privately told you to?

Either way is wrong. Most down voting is done when the video is of poor quality, or it seriously offends. Explain why it was downvoted.


>> ^my15minutes:
>> ^prisonpanda:
> How much are informers getting paid these days?
and do yourself a favor. don't go there.
don't try making this about something other than your voting.


The above is ad hominem, with malicious emphasis on your, and could lead me to believe that owner of this comment has something to lose, if the 2 sifters prisonpanda has spoken of happens to be the same person. - This is how I read that comment. It is best to stay impartial to personal attack, lest those attacking be party to the fray. If that be the case, they need to defend themselves with out ad hominem.

Also if there is a conspiracy I would like to see it outed, so yes he has the right to defend himself even if that means outing the co conspirators. So yes, if there were a significant power meant to force prisonpanda out, then I would like to see who it is, so I can properly avoid them.

Now after taking the time to view all the profiles I thought would be particular to this case, I have come to the conclusion that prisonpanda did attack gwizz.

However gwizz has more downvoted videos that I ever imagined I would see, from numerous sifters, this leads me to suspect nothing of Gwizz other than his stringent taste.

Verdict: Prisonpanda is guilty on the charge of malicious down voting.
Recommended sentence: Two days suspension, and probation forever(Because now you are forever marked).

My recommendation to prisonpanda, dont downvote any more.

I just stop a video that I don't like, you should too.

Edit: I am not as neutral as I suspected I was. I looked at my down vote record and saw that I down voted two videos. In Both my motives were questionable, now that I look back on them. I stopped down voting after because I got word that it wasn't a good Idea to down vote in spite. So I'm sending you word, do not down vote in spite.

I say ban everyone and reboot the site.

*dons robe*

hum, mass downvoting...ever good - if someone does not like your video you should never go to their profile and cherry pick a bunch you 'don't like'

That is not how it works here...

>> ^prisonpanda:
>> ^MarineGunrock:
>> ^prisonpanda:
So one person telling another to downvote a video is ok?
I didnt name the 2 people in question but they both were downvoting the same type of video. It looked like a "Tip-off" from one "sift-informer" to "sift-police":p How much are informers getting paid these days?


It doesn't fucking matter who said what to whom to get them to downvote. It doesn't give you the right to go on a fucking spree.

Could you at least try to keep your language clean and not down in the gutter. Dont use that kind of language at me again.
Thanks in advance.


You're fucking welcome.

Oh, and what's this? You went charter last fucking night, too! So does that make it all better? Like some sort of lame-ass attempt at absolving yourself from the fucking consequences of your immature actions?

"But Daggy, I paid you money, so I can stay, riiiiigght? Pleeeeeaaaassseeee?"

In case you didn't realize, no one is exempt from it. Choggie is one of the most active and longest-running members here. A charter the whole time, and he was banned all the same.

"However gwizz has more downvoted videos that I ever imagined I would see, from numerous sifters, this leads me to suspect nothing of Gwizz other than his stringent taste."

And I've even eased up.. Don't let my inner ant out, it's not pretty.

Abuse Guidelines ¶

1. Video votes must be cast only for the content and nothing else; the video must be viewed before voting

Clearly this was violated, as Dag has shown above.

Verdict: Same as before, 2 weeks suspension. Given the comments made by the accused, review of future downvotes during the span of 2 months from being released from suspension. Probation period, if you will.

Wow, well I'm guilty of upvoting sometimes without viewing it or at least finishing it. *ban me

blankfist cannot be banned because star accounts are immune to banination - ignoring ban request by swampgirl.

>> ^prisonpanda:
So one person telling another to downvote a video is ok?
I didnt name the 2 people in question but they both were downvoting the same type of video. It looked like a "Tip-off" from one "sift-informer" to "sift-police":p How much are informers getting paid these days?


I'm going to reply to this with a timeline of my own actions. Reason is this:

>> ^prisonpanda:
Ah noes the internet police were here. Man you folks down voting really outta chill out and stop trying to police this site.


in aparently reply to a coment i made, just before it.

KP posted a vid. clearly a rediculouse vid. a vid of horrror. i see it (in early unsifted state) as i was browsing reasent comments, and saw Issys coment invokation * Fear:
Vid: http://www.videosift.com/video/Man-Boobs
Comment: href="/video/Man-Boobs#comment-517208"

I watched the vid by KP and was horrified. I upvoted the fear coment. I didnt down vote. Not yet. Why? it wasnt sifted. and, i didnt want to attracked increased attention to this attrocity.

later, KP left me a comment profile suggesting i down vote his vid. why? because it was getting perilously close to getting sifted and it was truly awefull. He left such coments on a ffew peoples profiles, this being a bit of an injoke/entertaniment amoungst the regulars.

I duly downvote, as the + to - vote ratio was on the wrong balance.

Kps videos had mr pregnant in the tags.

I was at the bottom of the vid page, to see who else had down/upvoted. In so doing, i spoted http://wtf.videosift.com/video/Big-Belly-Man-Been-missing-you in the related videos section. very similar thumbnails. Isnt there for me now, but was at the time.

Sometimes, after one vid from a src gets sifted (or even submitted) others from that src get sifted too, by the human jump on bandwagon reaction i myself have succumbed to at times. These vids were too bad to ignore, and the thought of several on the front page could nto be countenanced.

This meme needed nipping in the bud, and fast.

So i watched the above vid, didnt like it, not one bit, and down voted. I also left eh follwing coment: "href="/video/Big-Belly-Man-Been-missing-you#comment-519237

which was immediately followed by the one at the top by prisonpanda referring to "the internet police" and suggesting "chill out and stop trying to police this site" which is such utter bullshit its beyond words. its attempting to police the site through up and down votes, that stops it being YouTube. its the WHOLE FUCKING point of being here.

it was shortly after that the sift talk post about http://wtf.videosift.com/talk/Voting-here-is-like-blockvotes-at-Eurovision-song-Contest was posted, making similar statements

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So thats my actions, and the chronolgy/sequence/reasons for them.

As for Ban or Not Ban, if, thoes down votes were legit to qthe quality fo the watched vids, fine. if not, and an emotional outburst, then i vote for rules is rules and 2 week suspension/ban as i think thats the standard duration.

DONT down vote from spite. down vote cos the vid is bad, and the Mr Pregnant vids 9atleast the 2 i watched) are appauling

I have but one question. Does anyone else think Kronos was wrong to discard this video when the whole purpose of him posting it was on a dare? I dared him to post it. He did, then he discarded it. Isn't that just terrible? I think so too. What a wus. Okay, back to your Siftquisition.

the * kill call was needed. if you'd more balls you'd have tried it. wait, this is you, you find horrors so bad the sun stops shining and somehow I sometimes upvote before my brain recovers from your devastating mental powers...

We all need to calm down. There are no internet police, and no one needs to be banned.

When was choggie banned?

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I think there is evidence of deliberate, punitive downvoting of Gwiz's posts.

I call for a 2-week suspension of Prisonpanda. Counter-arguments?

>> ^dag:
Counter-arguments?


Zilch.

Doesn't Bannedpanda sound much cooler than Prisonpanda?

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Prisonpanda, you are hereby suspended for 2 weeks. Guards?

*pokes head in the door
OH!?? Sorry... someone told me this was the bathroom.

I guess it's okay to *unsticky this now.

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kill all humans?

>> ^mintbbb:
Doesn't Bannedpanda sound much cooler than Prisonpanda?


how about prisonbanned-a...huh? anybody? It's Ok, I'll show myself out.

"Diamonds - She'll pretty much have to" You can't downvote that if you watched it!!!!!

That's the real crime here. It is because Jews own all the diamonds? Maybe he is a racerist, can we get the jew-police on the case? I'm waiting for another round of anti-semite. (For the record, putting Palestinians in a progrom is anti-semitic... US and European aliya-ists are not typically semites.)