Delicious rant about this here: http://www.torontorealtyblog.com/2011/08/the-friday-rant-the-i-renew-bracelet/

Best comment from that rant:
The day that I found out that my father had bought one of these bracelets was the saddest day of my life.

I hope Apple sues.

There's a similar scam going on here in Europe, and the worst is that they are being sold... in pharmacies. *überfacepalm*

On the bright side, when I see someone wearing one I know s/he's severely lacking in critical thinking skills. On the dark side: there are a lot of them.

This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

Hey, Shinyblurry... There is no such thing as magic you. This is a scam, just like you.

>> ^shinyblurry:

This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".


Oh, the irony is palpable

Magic is real and comes from Satan..The device attempts to control reality outside of Gods power so it can be considered sorcery..anything like that puts you under the power of supernatural evil.

>> ^EMPIRE:

Hey, Shinyblurry... There is no such thing as magic you. This is a scam, just like you.

I do hope you're nothing but a troll, because if not you should be institutionalized immediately.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Magic is real and comes from Satan..The device attempts to control reality outside of Gods power so it can be considered sorcery..anything like that puts you under the power of supernatural evil.
>> ^EMPIRE:
Hey, Shinyblurry... There is no such thing as magic you. This is a scam, just like you.

shit, shinyblurry was a troll all along? i'm kind of disappointed.

Jesus did magic. He just called it miracles.
>> ^shinyblurry:

Magic is real and comes from Satan..The device attempts to control reality outside of Gods power so it can be considered sorcery..anything like that puts you under the power of supernatural evil.
>> ^EMPIRE:
Hey, Shinyblurry... There is no such thing as magic you. This is a scam, just like you.

LOL!!

(This comment goes great with your avatar btw)

>> ^gwiz665:

Jesus did magic. He just called it miracles.
>> ^shinyblurry:
Magic is real and comes from Satan..The device attempts to control reality outside of Gods power so it can be considered sorcery..anything like that puts you under the power of supernatural evil.
>> ^EMPIRE:
Hey, Shinyblurry... There is no such thing as magic you. This is a scam, just like you.

*fail *eia

Adding video to channels (Eia) - requested by ant.

>> ^EvilDeathBee:

>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

Oh, the irony is palpable


There is no irony. Shiny is a troll.

My favorite part is when they say that if I'm not satisfied that it works exactly like I've seen in this commercial, I can just put it back in the box and send it back. I'm glad they said that, because I'm sure that as soon as I realized I still couldn't play golf or lift a handweight, I probably would have just stuck a stamp to it and put it in the mailbox.

I don't need the iRenew to destroy my faith in humanity, humanity itself does a pretty decent job at destroying my faith in humanity already.

iRenew may also cause birth defects, anemia, and stroke.

And........ Ignore *click*.
>> ^shinyblurry:

This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

Lol you're just as deluded as the idiots who buy this crap thinking it will change their life for the better.

Pro-tip: its an inert piece of plastic, not a fucking magic talisman.>> ^shinyblurry:

This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo

Sigh...>> ^shinyblurry:

This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

I don't understand. Don't these people care about the truth?

iRenew makes my dookie smell like potpourri

>> ^Gallowflak:

I don't understand. Don't these people care about the truth?


Why should they? Truth is the invention of a liar.

It's a satanic deception. This is simply new age mysticism, and people enmasse are being trained to embrace and accept it. The principles of it stem from occult practices which have been practiced for a milennia. It is quite simply magic, or the attempt to gain power over reality by human willpower and directed intention. Since you are blind you don't see the spiritual consequences of these things, but they are plainly obvious . People are being taught to rely on mysticism and esoteric knowledge rather than God, to believe that they themselves can be gods, just as the serpent promised in the garden. There is nothing new under the sun; this is a very old deception. Satan doesn't have any new tricks, and he doesn't need any, because the old ones keep paying off.


>> ^KnivesOut:

Lol you're just as deluded as the idiots who buy this crap thinking it will change their life for the better.
Pro-tip: its an inert piece of plastic, not a fucking magic talisman.>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

You can't test for spiritual influences.

>> ^lampishthing:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo
Sigh...>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

>> ^ponceleon:

>> ^EvilDeathBee:
>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

Oh, the irony is palpable

There is no irony. Shiny is a troll.


Nah, Bill O Reily was a troll. Shiny's nonsense is the exact same crap I was told from true believers when I was growing up

When did magnates become magic?

I've said it before,

Just BAN the creep already!

Yes, we don't want to just ban people for thinking differently, but this sb guy clogs up otherwise enjoyable comments with this crap and he's getting more and more emboldened every time he gets away with it.

If sb just stated his/her beliefs that would be a different story, but this insistence on continually attacking over--and over--and over gets real old, real fast.

Thanks for this video Krupo. The tags are enjoyable by themselves.

>> ^shinyblurry:

You can't test for spiritual influences.
>> ^lampishthing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo
Sigh...>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".




That's right. Because they don't exist! Isn't that interesting.

>> ^Boise_Lib:

I've said it before,
Just BAN the creep already!
Yes, we don't want to just ban people for thinking differently, but this sb guy clogs up otherwise enjoyable comments with this crap and he's getting more and more emboldened every time he gets away with it.
If sb just stated his/her beliefs that would be a different story, but this insistence on continually attacking over--and over--and over gets real old, real fast.


I disagree. Sure what he says is bollocks, but banning him simply for speaking his beliefs would simply be hypocritical on this site. Nothing he's said has been extremely offensive or outrageous. If it really upsets you that much either ignore him (like actually set the user to ignore) or just don't respond to his comments.

Also, who knows? Maybe us challenging him all the time may lead him to start questioning all the nonsense that has been shoveled upon him.

@EvilDeathBee - Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

"Nothing he's said has been extremely offensive or outrageous." I agree.

"Also, who knows? Maybe us challenging him all the time may lead him to start questioning all the nonsense that has been shoveled upon him." I disagree--any comments which don't agree with his previous mindset will only be seen as an "attack" on his "faith" (read delusions). This will actually only harden his resolve to chastise the sinners.

"...banning him simply for speaking his beliefs would simply be hypocritical on this site." I agree--that's why I stated above, "If sb just stated his/her beliefs that would be a different story, but this insistence on continually attacking over--and over--and over gets real old, real fast." For example take qm, I completely disagree with almost everything he says (and I think he might be an unstable person), but I would fight to keep him from being banned just for that. When qm has something to say--he says it--then moves on; he doesn't take over the whole thread and trash someones posting spouting trite crap.

About the ignore button--I'm not really sure how it works. Does it wipe out all the replies? Some of the replies are gold and I wouldn't want to miss them. If I ignore someone does that mean I wouldn't see their comments on a video I posted? I wouldn't want that because I want to see all activity on my posts.

Now, banning may not be the only solution available to the site admin here. If his comments could be limited to one per video that might be a viable solution--with out invoking the dreaded ban. As @Payback has said before if everyone simply ignored him the whole problem would go away--but that's (almost) against human nature.

Thanks again for the discussion, and Sorry @Krupo for taking up so much of your thread.

Actually you can in large groups. A statistically significant difference in outcomes between a spiritual group and a non-spiritual group would infer that spiritual influences were affecting the issue in question.>> ^shinyblurry:

You can't test for spiritual influences.
>> ^lampishthing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo
Sigh...>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

No worries, I get lazy sometimes and just ascribe my comments to upvotes and downvotes.

To go along with your desire to ban 'craaazy' thoughts, that's where the downvote function comes in handy. To play "anti-devil's advocate" (if you see what I did there), despite what you may think, shiny made a valid point, grounded in some pretty logical teaching in a dualistic sort of systme (not really usign the right terms, but let's move on) -> if you do believe in the supernatural (and many do), if you're not embracing spiritual power from God / the "positive" source, then everything else is coming from the negative source (e.g. Satan or the evil equivalent you suscribe to).

Now, drawing a link between a TV scam and the Prince of Darkness is a bit of a stretch, but if you see "scams" as evil, and Satan as "the boss of evil", then this isn't as crazy as it sounds. And certainly not ban-worthy.

Fun discussion though.

Incidentally, in the thread, which isn't really 'mine' but belnoging to the video, I was more shocked taht I hadn't put this into the eia channel as ant did for me. For surely, if you see someone of your favorite gender wearing one, it'll make you reconsider things.

>> ^Boise_Lib:

@EvilDeathBee - Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
"Nothing he's said has been extremely offensive or outrageous." I agree.
"Also, who knows? Maybe us challenging him all the time may lead him to start questioning all the nonsense that has been shoveled upon him." I disagree--any comments which don't agree with his previous mindset will only be seen as an "attack" on his "faith" (read delusions). This will actually only harden his resolve to chastise the sinners.
"...banning him simply for speaking his beliefs would simply be hypocritical on this site." I agree--that's why I stated above, "If sb just stated his/her beliefs that would be a different story, but this insistence on continually attacking over--and over--and over gets real old, real fast." For example take qm, I completely disagree with almost everything he says (and I think he might be an unstable person), but I would fight to keep him from being banned just for that. When qm has something to say--he says it--then moves on; he doesn't take over the whole thread and trash someones posting spouting trite crap.
About the ignore button--I'm not really sure how it works. Does it wipe out all the replies? Some of the replies are gold and I wouldn't want to miss them. If I ignore someone does that mean I wouldn't see their comments on a video I posted? I wouldn't want that because I want to see all activity on my posts.
Now, banning may not be the only solution available to the site admin here. If his comments could be limited to one per video that might be a viable solution--with out invoking the dreaded ban. As @Payback has said before if everyone simply ignored him the whole problem would go away--but that's (almost) against human nature.
Thanks again for the discussion, and Sorry @Krupo for taking up so much of your thread.

This isn't even new! There have been magnet bracelets for YEARS, and the "holographic" ones are even more of a scam, if that's even possible. The holographic ones tout that they "align the proton flow through your body" or some such nonsense.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'iRenew, scam, as seen on tv, empty, promises, snake oil' to 'iRenew, scam, as seen on tv, empty, promises, snake oil, that is so cooool' - edited by calvados

>> ^grinter:

iRenew may also cause birth defects, anemia, and stroke.


http://p1.portal2sounds.com/96

...athletes and celebrities...



Doesn't everyone want to mimic the most useless people in society?

...taught to rely on mysticism and esoteric knowledge...



That sounds vaguely familiar. Almost biblical...

You sound like my ex-girlfriend of seven years. Beautiful, super sweet semi-intelligent girl that turned manic-depressive, schizophrenic & super religious. One day I saw it coming and left at dusk. I guess it ran in the family & even though we moved to San Fran from the east coast her background caught up with her somehow. I'm glad I left when I did; I often refer to her as the "she-devil" because super extreme religious folks are evil/hypocritical beings in my opinion. Religion is only but one cancer on your mind; be mindful of not mixing them up.

>> ^shinyblurry:

This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

That's pretty much where I am coming from. Although, I wouldn't call my system dualistic if the sense is that they are equal forces. Now, this kind of evil may seem mundane, even banal, but really that is the worst kind. Slow change over time turns the good bad and the bad good. Satan uses and abuses whatever access he has, which is every person who sins, and he has a worldwide plan of deception built into every facet of modern life. Most of the corrupting ideas he insinuates into society have the same basic principles:

Get people to worship anything other than God..ie, other gods, money, power, themselves..etc

Get people to worship the creation rather than the Creator..ie, the pagans, deists and animists, environmentalists

Get people to believe that they can change reality through will power or do things under their own power..ie, the new age movement, secular humanists etc

Everything which is going on has a spiritual dimension, which is basically a war between the forces of good and evil. There is no space which isn't claimed, so everything which can be claimed is in dispute. While this might be a little thing in the grand deception, it helps reinforce the self-empowerment theology that many ascribe to.



>> ^Krupo:
No worries, I get lazy sometimes and just ascribe my comments to upvotes and downvotes.
To go along with your desire to ban 'craaazy' thoughts, that's where the downvote function comes in handy. To play "anti-devil's advocate" (if you see what I did there), despite what you may think, shiny made a valid point, grounded in some pretty logical teaching in a dualistic sort of systme (not really usign the right terms, but let's move on) -> if you do believe in the supernatural (and many do), if you're not embracing spiritual power from God / the "positive" source, then everything else is coming from the negative source (e.g. Satan or the evil equivalent you suscribe to).
Now, drawing a link between a TV scam and the Prince of Darkness is a bit of a stretch, but if you see "scams" as evil, and Satan as "the boss of evil", then this isn't as crazy as it sounds. And certainly not ban-worthy.
Fun discussion though. <IMG class=smiley src="http://cdn.videosift.com/cdm/emoticon/smile.gif">
Incidentally, in the thread, which isn't really 'mine' but belnoging to the video, I was more shocked taht I hadn't put this into the eia channel as ant did for me. For surely, if you see someone of your favorite gender wearing one, it'll make you reconsider things.
>> ^Boise_Lib:
@EvilDeathBee - Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
"Nothing he's said has been extremely offensive or outrageous." I agree.
"Also, who knows? Maybe us challenging him all the time may lead him to start questioning all the nonsense that has been shoveled upon him." I disagree--any comments which don't agree with his previous mindset will only be seen as an "attack" on his "faith" (read delusions). This will actually only harden his resolve to chastise the sinners.
"...banning him simply for speaking his beliefs would simply be hypocritical on this site." I agree--that's why I stated above, "If sb just stated his/her beliefs that would be a different story, but this insistence on continually attacking over--and over--and over gets real old, real fast." For example take qm, I completely disagree with almost everything he says (and I think he might be an unstable person), but I would fight to keep him from being banned just for that. When qm has something to say--he says it--then moves on; he doesn't take over the whole thread and trash someones posting spouting trite crap.
About the ignore button--I'm not really sure how it works. Does it wipe out all the replies? Some of the replies are gold and I wouldn't want to miss them. If I ignore someone does that mean I wouldn't see their comments on a video I posted? I wouldn't want that because I want to see all activity on my posts.
Now, banning may not be the only solution available to the site admin here. If his comments could be limited to one per video that might be a viable solution--with out invoking the dreaded ban. As @Payback has said before if everyone simply ignored him the whole problem would go away--but that's (almost) against human nature.
Thanks again for the discussion, and Sorry @Krupo for taking up so much of your thread.

Please don't compare me to your ex-girlfriends. That's just creepy.

Your point here isn't exactly salient. "Shinyblurry, you're evil and stupid and you remind me of my ex girlfriend the she devil and your mind is full of cancer" Well gee I am touched. Do you have anything constructive to say or are you just going to run your mouth?

>> ^shagen454:
You sound like my ex-girlfriend of seven years. Beautiful, super sweet semi-intelligent girl that turned manic-depressive, schizophrenic & super religious. One day I saw it coming and left at dusk. I guess it ran in the family & even though we moved to San Fran from the east coast her background caught up with her somehow. I'm glad I left when I did; I often refer to her as the "she-devil" because super extreme religious folks are evil/hypocritical beings in my opinion. Religion is only but one cancer on your mind; be mindful of not mixing them up.
>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

>> ^Boise_Lib:
I've said it before,
Just BAN the creep already!
Yes, we don't want to just ban people for thinking differently, but this sb guy clogs up otherwise enjoyable comments with this crap and he's getting more and more emboldened every time he gets away with it.
If sb just stated his/her beliefs that would be a different story, but this insistence on continually attacking over--and over--and over gets real old, real fast.


I don't think someone should be banned for expressing their beliefs. I encourage people to believe what they feel is right, regardless of who else shares those beliefs. If Shinyblurry was using some sort of manipulative technique to persuade us then that may be grounds for banning. All I see is someone who believes in something, can't back it up with anything of substance, and is relatively harmless because at most all they're doing is giving us a bit of a chuckle.

@shinyblurry - Don't you understand that the nonsense you spout has a similar affect on us as this nonsense of some sort of magic bracelet has on you. We know it's BS, like you know the magic bracelet is BS (although for entirely different reasons).
Both are equally nonsensical concepts that have zero basis in reality nor any evidence to support their wild claims. I'm just wondering what do you expect to gain from constantly trying to brainwash us with the same crap you've been brainwashed into believing.

BTW, as I write this my friend just messaged me a quote:

"Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one. It's fine to be proud of it. But please don't whip it out in public and start waving it around. And PLEASE don't try to shove it down my children's throats."

Nice timing

I'm just saying that your sort of "insanity" brings back a lot of bad memories and I hope you learn what the actual nature of everything is without fruitless, wasteful & dangerous ideas.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Please don't compare me to your ex-girlfriends. That's just creepy.
Your point here isn't exactly salient. "Shinyblurry, you're evil and stupid and you remind me of my ex girlfriend the she devil and your mind is full of cancer" Well gee I am touched. Do you have anything constructive to say or are you just going to run your mouth?
>> ^shagen454:
You sound like my ex-girlfriend of seven years. Beautiful, super sweet semi-intelligent girl that turned manic-depressive, schizophrenic & super religious. One day I saw it coming and left at dusk. I guess it ran in the family & even though we moved to San Fran from the east coast her background caught up with her somehow. I'm glad I left when I did; I often refer to her as the "she-devil" because super extreme religious folks are evil/hypocritical beings in my opinion. Religion is only but one cancer on your mind; be mindful of not mixing them up.
>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".

In this commercial, the iRenew has liquid methamphetamines brushed onto the inside edge to give the first time wearers a euphoric jolt.

>> ^shinyblurry:

It's a satanic deception. This is simply new age mysticism, and people enmasse are being trained to embrace and accept it. The principles of it stem from occult practices which have been practiced for a milennia. It is quite simply magic, or the attempt to gain power over reality by human willpower and directed intention. Since you are blind you don't see the spiritual consequences of these things, but they are plainly obvious . People are being taught to rely on mysticism and esoteric knowledge rather than God, to believe that they themselves can be gods, just as the serpent promised in the garden. There is nothing new under the sun; this is a very old deception. Satan doesn't have any new tricks, and he doesn't need any, because the old ones keep paying off.

>> ^KnivesOut:
Lol you're just as deluded as the idiots who buy this crap thinking it will change their life for the better.
Pro-tip: its an inert piece of plastic, not a fucking magic talisman.>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".




I don't see the difference between "new age mysticism" and old age mysticism. What the message seems to be in this video is that some object can bring about strength, endurance, and balance. Why is that so wrong to you shinny? What do you think the holy trinity is other than a mass propagated symbol of strength, endurance, and balance. The value of the message is a universal desire for that kind of thing in a person's life. People are NOT being trained these days to accept new deception, rather they have been trained for thousands of years to accept the same deception from various faiths in existence today. Seems to me that if you are losing members of your flock to gadgets such as these, it may be time to get a more charismatic preacher. Maybe if the pope signed off on the iRenew you would be singing a different tune.

OKAY. Time to make a comment that ISN'T related to SB and his attention-hogging not-sure-if-trolling inanity.

I have a friend who has been sharing via facebook how her laptop has been "possessed" and detailing her ongoing and futile attempts to solve the problem. Well, today someone finally fixed her computer for her... by suggesting that she take off her magnetic bracelet while using the machine. Apparently magnets and computers don't get along very well kids, so keep that in mind while trying to fix all of your health problems with jewelry AND post funny cat videos at the same time.

Or, maybe JEEZUS was mad at her for using her EVIL MAGIC and used his WORLD CREATING and REALITY BENDING not-magic-because-jesus-does-it POWERS to punish her by making her laptop a little wonky.
...damnit SB sucked me in.

>> ^laura:

My favorite part is when they say that if I'm not satisfied that it works exactly like I've seen in this commercial, I can just put it back in the box and send it back. I'm glad they said that, because I'm sure that as soon as I realized I still couldn't play golf or lift a handweight, I probably would have just stuck a stamp to it and put it in the mailbox.


Yea... but when you find out there's $15 Shipping and Handling that you will never get back, and the true production, processing and shipping costs are around $5 per unit. You start to realize that if they sell 1,000,000 units, and every single last person sends them back, they still made $10 million.

That also pre-supposes they are operating legally, albeit dishonorably. Others are impossible to get your money back from.

The only problem I have with the trolling of shinyblurry, is that while I have him on ignore it doesn't resolve the issue. Everyone one else starts to participate in these religious flame wars, that are never informative , always the same in tone and nature, and always moronic. The thread turns into this wasteland of shinyblurry topics instead, with no way to sort it out except by reading a bit and moving on.

I can do this, no problem. But, I think we gain little from shinyblurry's contributions if they are one trick pony efforts alone and always on "convert" mode. I can't ignore everyone. Just look at this thread and the nature it took on. Half of it is for shinyblurry except for the top part.

I don't think we need a ban, but perhaps a censure/suspension to try to assuage shinyblurry's "one trick pony" attitude. Perhaps to learn to post in a normal sense than always trying to thread-jack with commentary I could pre-emptily write myself, most likely semi-verbatim (I hate to say, but the thread-jacking works well, and I think needs to be discussed). It may not bother some of you, but may of us are tired of the sheer ridiculousness of it all.

No the comments are not hurtful or an outrage. They are merely begin to reach off-topic, every-time, in the exact same fashion.

Sorry, @shinyblurry (don't respond to this as I don't read your stuff anymore, go ahead--if you feel you need to though), but you are an outright troll for this community. I've yet to had a reason to feel a need to upvote anything you've ever done. Even QM gets upvotes from me all the time as he doesn't have to rely on some sideshow to answer or post about in every video/post he does participate in.

For now I will just browse and scroll. Sooner or later I may just downvote any comment that is thread-jacking continuously that deals with this subject. Harsh, but it gets tiring. Especially, when we are talking about a plastic bracelet that does nothing.

Well firstly, the pope is a type of antichrist. The catholic religion is not Christian, which may suprise you. It suprised me too because before I became a Christian I didn't know the difference. It is a pagan religion which derives from Christianity but is in every way is antithetical to biblical teaching.

Second, I am saying the magic bracelet isn't completely fake. I am saying it will appear to grant the properties and characteristics expected by the wearer. This is due to spiritual deception by Satan. It isn't that it is wrong for people to have strength and balance, it is the source they are trying to get it from..ie, not God.

If you take a piece of wood and worship it, a demon will assigned to it to receive that worship. Whenever you're calling upon something other than God, Satan can and does use it to mislead and corrupt. These things always have spiritual connotations. Even the flying spaghetti monster has become a false idol, and receives worship. http://www.venganza.org/

I did in fact say this isn't a new deception, just an old one in new packaging. Pagans have been using this kind of spiritual systems for thousands of years, impuing objects with special powers and using them to manipulate reality. This is sorcery for the masses.



>> ^albrite30:
>> ^shinyblurry:
It's a satanic deception. This is simply new age mysticism, and people enmasse are being trained to embrace and accept it. The principles of it stem from occult practices which have been practiced for a milennia. It is quite simply magic, or the attempt to gain power over reality by human willpower and directed intention. Since you are blind you don't see the spiritual consequences of these things, but they are plainly obvious . People are being taught to rely on mysticism and esoteric knowledge rather than God, to believe that they themselves can be gods, just as the serpent promised in the garden. There is nothing new under the sun; this is a very old deception. Satan doesn't have any new tricks, and he doesn't need any, because the old ones keep paying off.
>> ^KnivesOut:
Lol you're just as deluded as the idiots who buy this crap thinking it will change their life for the better.
Pro-tip: its an inert piece of plastic, not a fucking magic talisman.>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".



I don't see the difference between "new age mysticism" and old age mysticism. What the message seems to be in this video is that some object can bring about strength, endurance, and balance. Why is that so wrong to you shinny? What do you think the holy trinity is other than a mass propagated symbol of strength, endurance, and balance. The value of the message is a universal desire for that kind of thing in a person's life. People are NOT being trained these days to accept new deception, rather they have been trained for thousands of years to accept the same deception from various faiths in existence today. Seems to me that if you are losing members of your flock to gadgets such as these, it may be time to get a more charismatic preacher. Maybe if the pope signed off on the iRenew you would be singing a different tune.

I have every right to express my views, and simply because you don't agree with them doesn't mean you have the right to censor me. This is quite plainly a fascist statement, where you are advocating that I be monitored so I am making the right kinds of comments that the most people agree with as being proper.

Your comment is also hypocritical as you were just recently having an indepth conversation with me on the nature of time and space. I didn't see your last reply there, otherwise I would have finished the conversation..however now I guess I shouldn't bother since you have me on ignore.

>> ^kceaton1:
The only problem I have with the trolling of shinyblurry, is that while I have him on ignore it doesn't resolve the issue. Everyone one else starts to participate in these religious flame wars, that are never informative , always the same in tone and nature, and always moronic. The thread turns into this wasteland of shinyblurry topics instead, with no way to sort it out except by reading a bit and moving on.
I can do this, no problem. But, I think we gain little from shinyblurry's contributions if they are one trick pony efforts alone and always on "convert" mode. I can't ignore everyone. Just look at this thread and the nature it took on. Half of it is for shinyblurry except for the top part.
I don't think we need a ban, but perhaps a censure/suspension to try to assuage shinyblurry's "one trick pony" attitude. Perhaps to learn to post in a normal sense than always trying to thread-jack with commentary I could pre-emptily write myself, most likely semi-verbatim (I hate to say, but the thread-jacking works well, and I think needs to be discussed). It may not bother some of you, but may of us are tired of the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
No the comments are not hurtful or an outrage. They are merely begin to reach off-topic, every-time, in the exact same fashion.
Sorry, @shinyblurry (don't respond to this as I don't read your stuff anymore, go ahead--if you feel you need to though), but you are an outright troll for this community. I've yet to had a reason to feel a need to upvote anything you've ever done. Even QM gets upvotes from me all the time as he doesn't have to rely on some sideshow to answer or post about in every video/post he does participate in.
For now I will just browse and scroll. Sooner or later I may just downvote any comment that is thread-jacking continuously that deals with this subject. Harsh, but it gets tiring. Especially, when we are talking about a plastic bracelet that does nothing.

>> ^shinyblurry:

I have every right to express my views, and simply because you don't agree with them doesn't mean you have the right to censor me. This is quite plainly a fascist statement, where you are advocating that I be monitored so I am making the right kinds of comments that the most people agree with as being proper.
Your comment is also hypocritical as you were just recently having an indepth conversation with me on the nature of time and space. I didn't see your last reply there, otherwise I would have finished the conversation..however now I guess I shouldn't bother since you have me on ignore.
>> ^kceaton1:
The only problem I have with the trolling of shinyblurry, is that while I have him on ignore it doesn't resolve the issue. Everyone one else starts to participate in these religious flame wars, that are never informative , always the same in tone and nature, and always moronic. The thread turns into this wasteland of shinyblurry topics instead, with no way to sort it out except by reading a bit and moving on.
I can do this, no problem. But, I think we gain little from shinyblurry's contributions if they are one trick pony efforts alone and always on "convert" mode. I can't ignore everyone. Just look at this thread and the nature it took on. Half of it is for shinyblurry except for the top part.
I don't think we need a ban, but perhaps a censure/suspension to try to assuage shinyblurry's "one trick pony" attitude. Perhaps to learn to post in a normal sense than always trying to thread-jack with commentary I could pre-emptily write myself, most likely semi-verbatim (I hate to say, but the thread-jacking works well, and I think needs to be discussed). It may not bother some of you, but may of us are tired of the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
No the comments are not hurtful or an outrage. They are merely begin to reach off-topic, every-time, in the exact same fashion.
Sorry, @shinyblurry (don't respond to this as I don't read your stuff anymore, go ahead--if you feel you need to though), but you are an outright troll for this community. I've yet to had a reason to feel a need to upvote anything you've ever done. Even QM gets upvotes from me all the time as he doesn't have to rely on some sideshow to answer or post about in every video/post he does participate in.
For now I will just browse and scroll. Sooner or later I may just downvote any comment that is thread-jacking continuously that deals with this subject. Harsh, but it gets tiring. Especially, when we are talking about a plastic bracelet that does nothing.



Its impossible to win any kind of Internet argument/debate. Its impossible to have any sort of rational/logical discussion with a fanatic or member of the religious fringe. Basically, debating with this guy will only lead to a double loop of fruitlessness and inanity. Its tempting to engage people like this (which unfortunately I am doing right now) but all youre doing is "feeding the 'tards."

"Someone" should look at ip addresses and see if SB is a sock puppet.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Well firstly, the pope is a type of antichrist. The catholic religion is not Christian, which may suprise you. It suprised me too because before I became a Christian I didn't know the difference. It is a pagan religion which derives from Christianity but is in every way is antithetical to biblical teaching.
Second, I am saying the magic bracelet isn't completely fake. I am saying it will appear to grant the properties and characteristics expected by the wearer. This is due to spiritual deception by Satan. It isn't that it is wrong for people to have strength and balance, it is the source they are trying to get it from..ie, not God.
If you take a piece of wood and worship it, a demon will assigned to it to receive that worship. Whenever you're calling upon something other than God, Satan can and does use it to mislead and corrupt. These things always have spiritual connotations. Even the flying spaghetti monster has become a false idol, and receives worship. http://www.venganza.org/
I did in fact say this isn't a new deception, just an old one in new packaging. Pagans have been using this kind of spiritual systems for thousands of years, impuing objects with special powers and using them to manipulate reality. This is sorcery for the masses.

>> ^albrite30:
>> ^shinyblurry:
It's a satanic deception. This is simply new age mysticism, and people enmasse are being trained to embrace and accept it. The principles of it stem from occult practices which have been practiced for a milennia. It is quite simply magic, or the attempt to gain power over reality by human willpower and directed intention. Since you are blind you don't see the spiritual consequences of these things, but they are plainly obvious . People are being taught to rely on mysticism and esoteric knowledge rather than God, to believe that they themselves can be gods, just as the serpent promised in the garden. There is nothing new under the sun; this is a very old deception. Satan doesn't have any new tricks, and he doesn't need any, because the old ones keep paying off.
>> ^KnivesOut:
Lol you're just as deluded as the idiots who buy this crap thinking it will change their life for the better.
Pro-tip: its an inert piece of plastic, not a fucking magic talisman.>> ^shinyblurry:
This is a spiritual issue. Anyone wearing this bracelet is engaging in sorcery, because this is basically magic. This leaves them open to deception from the enemy. The wearers of these bracelet may well be perceiving a tangible benefit because of this spiritual deception. It is just one of the tacts the enemy uses in spiritual warfare, getting people to rely on themselves or magic devices, or things like "the secret".



I don't see the difference between "new age mysticism" and old age mysticism. What the message seems to be in this video is that some object can bring about strength, endurance, and balance. Why is that so wrong to you shinny? What do you think the holy trinity is other than a mass propagated symbol of strength, endurance, and balance. The value of the message is a universal desire for that kind of thing in a person's life. People are NOT being trained these days to accept new deception, rather they have been trained for thousands of years to accept the same deception from various faiths in existence today. Seems to me that if you are losing members of your flock to gadgets such as these, it may be time to get a more charismatic preacher. Maybe if the pope signed off on the iRenew you would be singing a different tune.



Who should I speak to about getting my piece of wood assigned a demon? I pity your insanity.

I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Power Balance bracelets yet, and the fact they were called out in Australia for misleading advertising.

Spent about 10 minutes digging through various research webportals and couldn't find any hint of the cited iRenew bracelet study performed at Southwestern Oklahoma State University.

Anyone else?

>> ^kceaton1:

The only problem I have with the trolling of shinyblurry, is that while I have him on ignore it doesn't resolve the issue. Everyone one else starts to participate in these religious flame wars, that are never informative , always the same in tone and nature, and always moronic. The thread turns into this wasteland of shinyblurry topics instead, with no way to sort it out except by reading a bit and moving on.
I can do this, no problem. But, I think we gain little from shinyblurry's contributions if they are one trick pony efforts alone and always on "convert" mode. I can't ignore everyone. Just look at this thread and the nature it took on. Half of it is for shinyblurry except for the top part.
I don't think we need a ban, but perhaps a censure/suspension to try to assuage shinyblurry's "one trick pony" attitude. Perhaps to learn to post in a normal sense than always trying to thread-jack with commentary I could pre-emptily write myself, most likely semi-verbatim (I hate to say, but the thread-jacking works well, and I think needs to be discussed). It may not bother some of you, but may of us are tired of the sheer ridiculousness of it all.
No the comments are not hurtful or an outrage. They are merely begin to reach off-topic, every-time, in the exact same fashion.


Thank You, kceaton1.
You've said what I was trying to say--only infinitely better than I.

At least it's woman-proof.

>> ^laura:

My favorite part is when they say that if I'm not satisfied that it works exactly like I've seen in this commercial, I can just put it back in the box and send it back. I'm glad they said that, because I'm sure that as soon as I realized I still couldn't play golf or lift a handweight, I probably would have just stuck a stamp to it and put it in the mailbox.

I like shinyblurry and feel s/he should be allowed to comment.

S/he is not vindictive or hateful, though I do wonder if it isn't an act of some kind.

The trolling aspect, whether intentional or by design is that he jumps into these threads; says things that are sure to cause a stir; then hides behind all the replies by throwing the bible up infront of him as a shield. What I mean is, he'll jump in.. call someone a harlot, heathen, satanist, proclaim the video satanic, all the above, none of the above, etc.. then any reply is met with, 'You have a beef with God,', Or, 'That's incorrect and here's some metaphysical non-sense I claim is personally taught to me by an unseen force.'. From there he seems to enjoy following up with, "Don't you have anything of substance to contribute?". Basically he'll say anything to stir the pot, then is able to dodge any responsibility by throwing religion in front of it.

I tried asking him if he could try to accept that his views may not be 100% right, even if he BELIEVES it.. but he just came back at me with, "Oh, you just don't know the truth like I know it.". A person can believe in something, but still at least facilitate other possibilities to some degree, at least for the sake of discussion. You can't discuss with Shiny, only get preached at.

In some cases where others start making good points, he just stops replying (a lot of his earlier debates went like that).

What we have is a brick wall. Either we get everyone to ignore him (which is pretty much impossible), agree to just put up with his continual one-sided views and watch *these* types of threads form under videos, or something else. I'm all in favor for something else at this point.

So, how's that different, exactly, from praying to God?>> ^shinyblurry:

the attempt to gain power over reality by human willpower and directed intention.

I agree that SB should be allowed to comment. I just wish he wasn't such a condescending prick all the time.

You're a funny guy QM, and even though I disagree with %99 of what you say on the sift, I enjoy the way you say it.>> ^quantumushroom:

I like shinyblurry and feel s/he should be allowed to comment.
S/he is not vindictive or hateful, though I do wonder if it isn't an act of some kind.

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