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Sad.

http://videosift.com/video/7-years-7-mass-shootings-7-distraught-speeches

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Wow. The complete disconnect from the obvious, actually stated consequences of their own actions is staggering.
I think not EVER saying his name, or investigating his 'reason' is the ONLY way to report these crimes now. As he said, otherwise you are giving them fame and a platform as a reward for their murders....and the more one kills the more air time they receive. That's asinine.

They don't make the news, they just report it...


...in the sexiest, most glamorous way possible.

Uh... wow. Not investigating their 'reasons' for killing? That sounds... insane. You know that there's a difference between uncritically reading the killers' manifestos on air, and trying to look into 'why,' right?

Also it's not hypocritical, or clueless, of CNN to name the killer - you might think it's wrong, but it's definitely a choice they made consciously in line with their editorial policy. What the sheriff said and what the killer said doesn't dictate policy.

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

Yeah, posted it before. And I'll post it every fucking time. Good job, America. You make sure those evil liberals don't stop you murdering the fuck out of each other.

Also stop fucking giving these assholes coverage!

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BBC news did pretty much exactly the same thing. They even have an article on their website outlining the reasons why it is a bad idea to report the shooters name and picture etc...but then they are just as guilty of writing these bullshit stories about who the killer was, who his parents were, his hobbies, his favorite colour, that thing he once said to someone etc etc. Meanwhile the victims are just numbers for the most part.

Reality is, someone is going to name the guy and they are going to get the attention.

I understand why the sheriff doesn't want the name released but it's not within his purview to demand that media respect his wishes. It would get out one way or another, I don't really see what the hoo ha is about.

If it's just a general complaint about sensationalist reporting, there are plenty of sources of news that just give you the facts and don't turn it in to a sideshow. They are generally a bit more obscure (no frills actual reporting doesn't draw much attention) so you have to hunt for em, but they are out there.

Only semantically. In reality, if you put their message out there because they killed people, you're rewarding them.
I'm not saying the authorities shouldn't investigate, and I'm not even saying that information shouldn't be used to inform policy makers, I'm saying the 'reasons' for the mass murders (and names of the mass murderers) should not be reported publicly, because reporting it gives incentive for the next guy with a message (or with a pathological need for 'fame') to use mass murder to spread it.

I don't really think it's hypocrisy, it's just that CNN unabashedly does not give a shit if they encourage more mass shootings.

There's a lot of words one could use for CNN's coverage, but hypocrisy is not one of them. Seriously people, words have actual meanings. Let's try to use them, rather than just toss words out there because we like the way they sound.

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Removed hypocrisy from the title. Any idea what might replace it or a better title?
I grabbed the title from another site without giving it any thought. My bad.

I'm not sure a replacement is needed. The current title is definitely accurate. Not particularly spectacular, but accurate. Now if we could just get the media to follow suit...

Actually, I already assumed you'd taken the title as found...I wasn't bitching about you personally.

I agree with the sentiment but news assholes don't give a flying fuck what happens to humanity, as long as sensational bullshit happens in the process of whatever the fuck goes on in this world. She's probably in the bathroom on her breaks fingering herself in anticipation of the next shooting.

"His motivation in killing as many people as possible was to get his name mentioned, so here's his name..."

duhhhh, what? awesome.

I've been so out of touch (busy) that I wasn't even aware there was another mass shooting.

1. Of course the authorities should investigate, but we also expect media to critically investigate what they report. They don't always do a decent job of it, but neither do the authorities. By reporting publicly, media helps provide transparency on both the events they report on and on what the authorities are doing / not doing. Naturally it's problematic when this becomes a business model, rewarding tragic scoops, but that's hard to avoid without state-run media.

2. Publishing the names of victims and perpetrators is a dicy media concern regardless of whether somebody sees it as a 'reward' or not. At some point you draw the line and set policy, and then it's unethical to go back across the line just because a specific perpetrator gets off on hearing his name mentioned. You set your policy as a means to serve the public as well as possible, not as a means of rewarding or punishing bad guys.

3. Regardless of whether they mention his name or not, the tragedy is that I don't remember his name. Not because he deserves to be remembered or not, but because this happens so frequently that the names blur. There's no way I'll remember his name, or Dylann Roof's, or Vesper Flanagan's, this time next year - it'll just blur into 'all the shootings that happen all the time'.

Mass shootings are great for ratings. Just sayin'.

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