USAF Veteran taking a stand against NFL

I guess they have to either burn or get rid of the truck now.

https://twitter.com/NFLRT/status/1037712766877028353
MilkmanDansays...

I think it was probably a sifted video that first got me to look up Kaepernick's actual statements from about 2 years ago when he started sitting out the anthem in protest. There's a great post-game interview where he made himself available and answered questions from many reporters etc. about his motivations, etc.


To me, it seems impossible to watch that with an open mind and come away with the Fox News narrative on the guy intact. He straight-up says that it wasn't ever meant to be taken as a slight on the military at all. He clearly and rather eloquently explains what it was/is about for him. He acknowledged that there would likely be consequences, which certainly came true.

Maybe he wouldn't be a QB in the NFL even if he'd have just kept quiet and been a good little conformist, but he got to a point where he didn't feel he could do that.

So, at least in my eyes, kudos to him for standing up for what he believes in. Even after losing his primary soapbox (being an NFL player), he's still putting the issue out there with Nike's help. I don't necessarily trust their motivations -- all publicity is good publicity, after all -- but after having heard his own statements I sure as hell trust his as being 100% genuine.

bobknight33says...

I applaud him for standing up for a cause he believes in. It just the wrong venue. With all the millions sports figures make and all the media at their beckon call this can be handled in a different venue.

It as he said not slight on the military at all. However, somethings just take on a life on its own.



Hand up don't shoot ... that swept across America after 2014 shooting of Michael Brown. Fact is this saying was never uttered by Michael Brown or anyone else. It was just a false claim by an witness.

Media, spin doctors and organizers take what they want and damn be truth.

MilkmanDansaid:

I think it was probably a sifted video that first got me to look up Kaepernick's actual statements from about 2 years ago when he started sitting out the anthem in protest. There's a great post-game interview where he made himself available and answered questions from many reporters etc. about his motivations, etc.


To me, it seems impossible to watch that with an open mind and come away with the Fox News narrative on the guy intact. He straight-up says that it wasn't ever meant to be taken as a slight on the military at all. He clearly and rather eloquently explains what it was/is about for him. He acknowledged that there would likely be consequences, which certainly came true.

Maybe he wouldn't be a QB in the NFL even if he'd have just kept quiet and been a good little conformist, but he got to a point where he didn't feel he could do that.

So, at least in my eyes, kudos to him for standing up for what he believes in. Even after losing his primary soapbox (being an NFL player), he's still putting the issue out there with Nike's help. I don't necessarily trust their motivations -- all publicity is good publicity, after all -- but after having heard his own statements I sure as hell trust his as being 100% genuine.

ChaosEnginesays...

I don't believe for a second that this is anything other than a brilliantly calculated and utterly cynical move from Nike to co-opt Kaepernick's protest.

But I find it hilarious that people are falling for it, especially the idiots burning their shoes.

So you were fine with Nike when they were doing actual evil shit like sweatshops and child labour, but you'll burn the sneakers (that you already gave Nike the money for) over an ad?

And liberals are just as bad on this. Nike are a big corporation who give 0 fucks about BLM. If you buy their shoes, you're supporting a company with terrible labour practices.

I'm not saying you should or shouldn't buy Nike shoes. If you want some shoes and they're good shoes and you're ok with their labour practices (or you feel that you not buying one pair of shoes won't make a difference), then buy them. Or if you don't like them as a company, don't buy them.

But don't lie to yourself and pretend that buying or burning Nikes is some kind of political statement.

MilkmanDansaid:

So, at least in my eyes, kudos to him for standing up for what he believes in. Even after losing his primary soapbox (being an NFL player), he's still putting the issue out there with Nike's help. I don't necessarily trust their motivations -- all publicity is good publicity, after all -- but after having heard his own statements I sure as hell trust his as being 100% genuine.

RFlaggsays...

The problem with all these Trumptards that are protesting the NFL because a few players aren't standing for the anthem, and just want them to do their job, though they DO do their job, which is play football. Meanwhile, they were singing the praises of Kim Davis when she refused to do her job when some people came in because some people sinned differently than her.

And as to how can they can see the interview and question the Fox and Trump narrative... They will NEVER question the Fox and Trump narrative. He could admit today he colluded because he owes tons of money to the Russian mob because of his money laundering, they wouldn't care, they'd just stat spitting out the Fox and Trump narrative that at least it saved us from the Demoncrats... just look at the shirts at Trump rallies about "I'd rather be Russian than Democrat", though not too long ago, even in the Reagan days, it was "better dead then red"... now I guess being aligned with the Soviets isn't bad, so long as you aren't Democrat... of course just look at Arkansas (I think it was), where even if turned out to be true that their one guy was a child molester, they'd still vote for him over a Democrat. That is how far these people are in the Fox and Trump mindset. Like Trump said, he could shoot somebody on the street and not loose a single vote. And near 100% of those people will be out to vote this November. If moderates and liberals want any chance of change, they'll need to turn out in droves, because he's already got 30+% of the voting population locked in and voting GOP this November, because they know they got more Supreme Court seats coming, and they are honestly afraid their faith is at stake if they don't vote GOP.

lv_huntersays...

I always find it funny when someone says kaep should have done it somewhere else or that its the wrong venue? What was the right venue? would you have listened to him if he hada big press conference? Would you have proclaimed that police brutality is a thing? Would you have gone to a symposium on police brutality if kaep wanted to discus things?

This decision had the biggest impact to bring it to peoples attentions, its sad that the message has been shifted to that of players protesting the military, which doesnt make sense. Protesting because they want more money? That isnt how players go about making more money. (Holding out for more money like bell is doing and not getting fantasy points is how its done). The fact that people talk about it means the message is on peopels minds, and sadly its either the wrong message or the right one in their heads.

The fact that the women had to exclaim the reason he was removing the plate was because of "our lands" "our America" "our people" and not for BLM already shows shes right leaning and wouldn't care for any reason but waht fox news gives her.

bobknight33said:

I applaud him for standing up for a cause he believes in. It just the wrong venue. With all the millions sports figures make and all the media at their beckon call this can be handled in a different venue.

It as he said not slight on the military at all. However, somethings just take on a life on its own.



Hand up don't shoot ... that swept across America after 2014 shooting of Michael Brown. Fact is this saying was never uttered by Michael Brown or anyone else. It was just a false claim by an witness.

Media, spin doctors and organizers take what they want and damn be truth.

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