When you act like a dick you usually get dicked over

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I gotta admit, as much as I hate the overuse of tasers. The guy was trolling for a confrontation and he got one...and lost.

So no sympathy here.

Should have tased him twice

What a fucking clown. Should've pepper sprayed him after he was cuffed, too

They should have tased his balls off. What a fucking asshole.

Not what a taser is for, otherwise the police academy would be a two-day course. It's like you nubs* people think cops are Judge Dredds or something. Guy was a jerk, but cops don't dispense justice.

*EDIT: sorry

I've railed against taser usage many times here. They're less lethal, not non-lethal.

again...still zero sympathy for the obviously antagonistic douchebag. He very quickly demonstrated that he wasn't going to be reasonable, claiming to be battered and claiming his rights were being violated and being needlessly obstructive when being asked simple questions.

Did you see the sign above the door? it was over a traffic violation. Fucking moron wasting the court's time because he feels his righteousness was slighted. Fuck him and I'm glad they put him down.

I'm sick of pricks like him with out of control egos. I'm honestly delighted that he experienced pain that maybe approaches how much he is a pain to others.

A taser is not for justice, it is for detaining a suspect. The cop was perfectly within his rights to detain the suspect.

I was speaking of the people above who think he should have been dispensed more pain for his behavior.

However... a taser is not simply for "detaining a suspect", although it may be used to do so. It's an extreme form of non-lethal (usually) force to be used when other means have failed or are untenable. UNCAT even classifies it as a torture device. Tasers are just another tool cops use to be lazy assholes, IMMHO, and I think it's unfortunate that they have become so ubiquitous and citizens so ignorant that they cheer for more when they see a guy get tased for merely being a jackass, which, I don't think, is against the law.

Combine that ubiquitous police and security presence with non-stop news babble of threats, terror, alerts, security, etc., add a dash of endless reports of carnage, death, violence, TSA pat down, etc. etc. etc.....And you have a recipe for a delusional frightened public eager for safety and security at the cost of their humanity, civil and constitutional rights, their will.

Dumb-ass should have left the fucking building and simply never paid the ticket. If he waited until he was pulled over again, chances are good he'd not be taken to jail for a simple FTA over a damn traffic citation-Sometimes the best way to fight the system is to ignore it.

I have traffic warrants out of a couple of precincts where I am, have for years-I have been pulled over several times and have only been told to "take care of those as soon as possible."

It helps to live in a city whose county jail is constantly overcrowded-Oh, and the last time I spent the night in jail, I had about $3000 in fines from old tickets that miraculously melted away after 24 hours. I will NEVER pay a local municipality again for a traffic ticket.

On another cheery note, I would like to thank the cornucopia of neighbor's to the south representing a few countries who come here illegally and clog the county court system ensuring no room for non-violent offenders like myself. The broken system works for me, works real well.

I definately wouldn't say that a taser is a "lazy cops" method. A taser prevents secondary targets from being affected (unlike pepper spray) and the cop in question definitely did not want to get into a wrestling match with the suspect while wearing a suit (where it would be unlikely that he would be able to control the situation). The suspect was warned and refused to back down.

As for cops in general being lazy, again I say no. I have two state police officers for friends and at lest with the Indiana state troopers the line is drawn when the possibility of injury to the officer would exceed the possibility of injury to the suspect from the taser. If its an old dude or someone who appears to have health issues they are obviously going to use more restraint than some young punk kid who will suffer some pain but will be back on his feet shortly.

That's totally out of order and pretty funny too.

The taser was over the top. They didn't need to do that They had enough people there to restrain him without using it.

It's perfectly possible to police without resort to weapons, our police do it all the time. There are times when they use their batons, but in the UK this would have just been dealt with without resort to weapons. What's wrong with Americans?

I'm guessing it's because if someone asked me to go up to someone and tackle them, then arrest them without their consent and they're going to fight back, or tazer them, let them fall then arrest them without a fight I'd choose the latter. Yes, I'm lazy.

So the moral of the story is, they decided that tazering people is the same as tackling them.

I am not OK with this. I don't care how annoying the dude is, or how incapable the cop is at dealing with him verbally, you don't resort to electrocution.

I don't think they were justified in using the taser, but only because it was too early. I don't think he'd crossed that line yet where any physical action was needed.

But if you think a pile of guys wrestling him to the ground would have been safer (for him or them), I have to disagree.

wow.....
so many here are totally ok with this?
thats disturbing on so many levels.
is the indoctrination so embedded and complete that nobody sees the abuse of power?
do you really think "he was being an obnoxious dick" is sufficient justification?
at what point do you draw the line of the power of the state and its agents over your life?
when it only affects you and those you know and care about?
but when its some random dude you do not know and have no connection with..well..then thats fine.
tazer him some more for obnoxious behavior.

how sad and depressing.

Blah blah abuse of power, abuse of this yadda yadda yadda mindless blather.

A) He was there for something simple, like a traffic ticket.

B) He was a total prick, douchebag, asshole and completely uncooperative.

C) Cameras ARE NOT PERMITTED inside courtrooms for PRIVACY. Dumbass award again. He thinks he can waltz in and violate everyone's privacy and harass another person because he has "rights"?

D) The officer didn't express ANY type of abuse whatsoever. If you think he did, sorry, but you might want to reconsider who's been brainwashed.

The officer had a choice: potentially violent altercation with a young man in a confined space where others could potentially be injured, or tazer him. If you think the officer is wrong for not allowing this to escalate and potentially injure others, then you really need to reassess your concept of police control and abuse of power.

The officer told the douchebag calmly, and concisely, that he was NOT permitted to pass that point with the video camera. The douchebag tried to push his way through, and surprisingly, the officer DID HIS JOB and kept the man from entering WITHOUT using excessive force.

Unless, of course, you think an officer touching a person who claims to NOT be a US Citizen is abuse. The douchebag began escalating the situation further until, well, I'm sure his biggest worry now isn't simply a speeding ticket anymore but a list of actual 1st Degree Misdemeanors and possibly a Felony.

So yes, I AM PERFECTLY FINE with the officer's use of a tazer to restrain the individual. And the reason I am, is thankfully the douchebag was recording it and we now have proof of who was in the wrong.

No camera rules in public places should not exist.
We are the state. We all own that court house. State owned property is public by definition.
We all should be able to see what goes on in our government.
They're our employees. We should be able to keep tabs on them.

-scheherazade

I don't really get this whole tazer deal.
2 older gentlemen on the heavy side guarding a door. Seriously you needed a taser? Seems to me these guys are just not fit for the position.

I work with a few security guards downtown that deal with all sorts of drug addicts, drunks, crazy people and outright idiots. They aren't issued anything.
I hear stories of them wrestling guys to the ground almost every week.

these 2 just wanted to test their new tazer and the situation was all the green lights they need.

justified? not even the slightest.

Whether you think he deserved it or not is irrelevant.

If he wasn't presenting a direct danger to himself or other persons the taser was unjustified. Being an asshole does not count.

2 men vs. 1 man and they use a taser.

They clearly wanted to, they could have easily detained this man without use of a weapon.

Over here, weaponry is a last resort, used out of necessity. It's probably more to do with that psychology than "access to guns" that creates the guncrime incongruity.

I often think i would like to live in america one day, but every time i see videos of police i realise that i'd not trade our police for anything.

I don't mind being shouted down. I'd go as far as to say that the comments section on the sift has decreased steadily in quality year upon year, which is why my attendance also has. Fact of the matter is, no one can deny that this man did not NEED to be tasered, when 2 heavy set men were quite capable of arresting him without it.

It's a dangerous world right now, to live without the protection of a government or a treaty with the government of your current location. Maybe someday it won't be, I know I hope for that.

But for a guy traveling in the domain of a foreign power, he wasn't very smart. The Bill of Rights applies to U.S. citizens. I don't know what sovereign associates of the State of Idaho get for protection.

I'm not sure there's a foreign country in the world where a U.S. citizen can act like that safely. And he claims to not even be one of those, so he's *really* going to have trouble.

I consider the taser largely irrelevant in this scenario. Getting tackled to the grown isn't a lot nicer. Until the world finally outgrows nationalism, he'd better pick a citizenship that will give him some backup in a government conflict.

The guy is following the teachings of David Wynn Miller..

http://www.davidwynnmiller.com/

I can agree that he whipped out the taser a bit early and that perhaps there should have been a warning given. "Hey, I will tase you if you do not step back."

Thing is though, I seriously doubt it would have changed a thing. Douchebags like that don't stand down in situations like that. In the Douchebag's mind, he is the evolved Nietzschian Superman genius, and the guards are part of the evil empire so there was simply nothing the guard was going to say to The Elevated One to convince him to step back peaceably and wait his fucking turn like the rest of the mere mortals.

Doesn't matter how right he thinks he is. It doesn't matter if he is ultimately right about everything he was ranting about. The rule is no cameras and he refused to comply. The guard did his job, maybe a bit too eagerly, but he did his job.