Oprah For America! Really?

100% agree with this.

Sorry to ruin everyones love fest, but I don't see why Oprah would make a good president.

Sure, she'd make a better president than Trump, but so would almost anyone.

I get that you don't like politicians, but FFS, being president is not something you should learn on the job.
newtboysays...

I've been making exactly this point since the Oprah idea started spreading.
Sure, she's a decent enough human being, and a huge step up from the worst person in the world, but she's incredibly far from qualified to lead the nation. Get a grip, people.
*quality

cloudballoonsays...

I also agree. Especially since she's also a billionaire "outsider" like Trump (vastly different how they got there though). If she runs, it's just another impression that financial success/celebrity-status is merit enough to go for the job.

I'm Canadian, so I have no say/vote in future USA presidential race. But I would be even more critical, especially post-Trump, of anyone seeking a political office with no policy, no ideology, no experience before announcing the candidacy.

ChaosEnginesays...

100%. As I mentioned in the golden globes thread, promoting Dr Oz is actually a social harm.

That said, gotta give Oprah at least some credit. She is not the one pushing this idea.

Frankly, it's a measure of how fucked up everything is under Trump that this is even taken seriously.

nanrodsaid:

And let's not forget that Oprah is in many ways anti-science. Not as much as Trump by a long shot but a cabinet with Dr. Oz and Deepak Chopra?

HugeJerksays...

I don't mind Oprah running for President, but she should spend at least a few years in local government, then a decade in state level government.

We don't simply need a well liked person in there... they need to know how things actually work and that sometimes the best thing isn't going to be the easiest thing.

bobknight33says...

Oprah, as good as she is is not up to the task of POTUS.

She would have to fight the Democratic field and beat all those in line. She is to nice to engage political fighting,

Who ever ends up facing Trump will get their lunch handed to them. He did it it to the 15 Republicans then faced Hillary and beat the heck out of her. One of the greatest upset victory's of out times.

StukaFoxsays...

He didn't "beat the heck out of her", he lost the popular vote. The majority of voters voted for Clinton. Those votes were stolen by the worthless Electoral College and an immature, pedophile-enabling, chronic liar was put in a position of power.

The first thing that needs to happen to restore America to sanity is flushing the Electoral College. It's a useless relic, and serves zero purpose in modern times.

bobknight33said:

Opera, as good as she is is not up to the task of POTUS.

She would have to fight the Democratic field and beat all those in line. She is to nice to engage political fighting,

Who ever ends up facing Trump will get their lunch handed to them. He did it it to the 15 Republicans then faced Hillary and beat the heck out of her. One of the greatest upset victory's of out times.

bobknight33says...

Popular vote does not mean jack.. keep dreaming

Hillary was to win by a land slide but just the opposite happened

306 VS 232 Electoral college votes . Land slide.

StukaFoxsaid:

He didn't "beat the heck out of her", he lost the popular vote. The majority of voters voted for Clinton. Those votes were stolen by the worthless Electoral College and an immature, pedophile-enabling, chronic liar was put in a position of power.

The first thing that needs to happen to restore America to sanity is flushing the Electoral College. It's a useless relic, and serves zero purpose in modern times.

newtboysays...

48.2% to 46.1%...landslide....for the one with 46.1%?
Keep dreaming. That's winning by technicality at best.
In 10 months, Trump becomes a lame duck president and we can all contain and ignore him. In 2 years and 10 months, we'll tear up his tax scam.
I, like you, hope that's not under president Winfrey.

bobknight33said:

Popular vote does not mean jack.. keep dreaming

Hillary was to win by a land slide but just the opposite happened

306 VS 232 Electoral college votes . Land slide.

newtboyjokingly says...

Certainly not happening under Trump...it's the only thing he had going for him...and from your description, I'm sure he feels like it's kindred spirit.

StukaFoxsaid:

The first thing that needs to happen to restore America to sanity is flushing the Electoral College. It's a useless relic, and serves zero purpose in modern times.

MilkmanDansays...

Bob's pretty much right, by the only numbers that matter (electoral votes). Is that a stupid system, that both sides should be clamoring to resign to the scrap heap? Yes. But they aren't, in spite of the D's getting screwed by it twice in very recent memory, and even the R "beneficiaries" have had to try to deal with some uncomfortable infighting and internal strife as a result (cue world's tiniest violin).

I don't think Trump is some sort of super genius and that he "played the game under the existing rules" better than Hillary or anything. He won by a technicality, just as you say -- but the mere fact that anyone can actually win by such a technicality ought to be an unbearable affront to our very conceptions of Democracy and Government. Instead, entirely too many of us seemed too complacent and apathetic to give a fuck, moments later. I really wish I could muster some surprise at this point.

I don't agree with Bob's other assertion that Trump stands a great chance of beating anyone that gets the D nod in 2020. On the other hand, 2016 proved the old adage about what happens when we assume.

I do completely concur with (both of) you that President Oprah isn't the answer.

newtboysaid:

48.2% to 46.1%...landslide....for the one with 46.1%?
Keep dreaming. That's winning by technicality at best.
In 10 months, Trump becomes a lame duck president and we can all contain and ignore him. In 2 years and 10 months, we'll tear up his tax scam.
I, like you, hope that's not under president Winfrey.

bobknight33says...

306 VS 232 Electoral college votes . Land slide.
Keep crying for another 7 years.

Trump is doing a great job.
He is exactly what you need as POTUS.

newtboysaid:

48.2% to 46.1%...landslide....for the one with 46.1%?
Keep dreaming. That's winning by technicality at best.
In 10 months, Trump becomes a lame duck president and we can all contain and ignore him. In 2 years and 10 months, we'll tear up his tax scam.
I, like you, hope that's not under president Winfrey.

bobknight33says...

Hillary won popular vote by 2.2% .

Trump won Electoral College Victory by 24% victory over Hillary.

And you thing Hillary should have won POTUS.
Hillary has a better chance of going to jail than the White House. Both slim to none.

newtboysaid:

48.2% to 46.1%...landslide....for the one with 46.1%?
Keep dreaming. That's winning by technicality at best.
In 10 months, Trump becomes a lame duck president and we can all contain and ignore him. In 2 years and 10 months, we'll tear up his tax scam.
I, like you, hope that's not under president Winfrey.

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