Gaza: Why is no-one rebuilding it? BBC News

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BBC's Lyse Doucet visits Gaza where during the last conflict with Israel, more than 2,000 people were killed and 18,000 homes destroyed. 73 Israelis also died. It's now 6 months since a ceasefire was declared and tens of thousands still have no shelter. International donors pledged more than $4bn for the reconstruction of Gaza, but little of the money has arrived. As our Chief International Correspondent Lyse Doucet has been finding out, most Gazans feel that a new war is inevitable.
newtboysays...

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Edit: I find that position a disgusting hateful ignorant position to hold.
Ever consider maybe Hamas needs to take their land back? It was theirs first.

bobknight33said:

Its the fault of Hamus. Israel just needs to finish them off once and for all and take their land back.

enochsays...

oh how i have missed your racism!
deeeeelicious......
you racist bastard you../hugs and sneaks an assgrab
oh,
and lets throw a *promote on this bad boy!

bobknight33said:

Its the fault of Hamus. Israel just needs to finish them off once and for all and take their land back.

siftbotsays...

Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Friday, February 27th, 2015 3:21am PST - promote requested by enoch.

newtboysays...

LOL!!!
So you believe the Israel sponsored site is feeding you the whole truth, huh? They simply don't show you the non-Jewish flag the original inhabitants used and pretend the area was essentially uninhabited before they came along. The entire area was under dispute and barely held together by British might, but inhabited by the people now called Palestinians who had been promised autonomy for fighting the Turks in WW1 (Before WW1 it was held by the Turks). The Jews were nearly 100% immigrants, not natives.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/palestine_1918_to_1948.htm

lantern53said:

this link shows the original Palestinian flag

http://www.factualisrael.com/1939-palestinian-flag-look-like-surprised/

It should be illuminating for the uninformed.

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lantern53says...

Who owned it before it was inhabited?

Nobody.

It belongs to whomever can hold it...same as any country. The land doesn't have 'property of...' signs anywhere, does it? If the Israelis wanted Gaza, they could get it.

The palestinians seem to be an example of how not to do anything right, hence the destruction of their area. Their leaders just sock away foreign aid or fire rockets at Israel, which brings back the destruction 10 fold. They need to smarten up.

newtboyjokingly says...

@billpayer has a point.
I wrote a reply to you, but realized there's no reason in posting it and erased it.
You're incapable of seeing any but your own solidified myopic viewpoint, what point is there in explaining international law or who inhabited where? You don't care about facts unless they support your conclusions.

lantern53said:

Who owned it before it was inhabited?

Nobody.

It belongs to whomever can hold it...same as any country. The land doesn't have 'property of...' signs anywhere, does it? If the Israelis wanted Gaza, they could get it.

The palestinians seem to be an example of how not to do anything right, hence the destruction of their area. Their leaders just sock away foreign aid or fire rockets at Israel, which brings back the destruction 10 fold. They need to smarten up.

Jerykksays...

There comes a point where you just need to swallow your pride and accept defeat. Hamas is never going to win a war against Israel. Their continued efforts have achieved nothing but the destruction of their own country and the people within. Politics and religion are not worth the death toll.

Now, someone is inevitably going to rant about sovereignty and freedom and all that. Tell me... should Germany have continued fighting after the fall of Berlin? Should Japan have continued fighting after Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Should Native Americans be launching rockets and bombing government buildings? No. You accept defeat and start taking the road to recovery.

Stormsingersays...

I see this from a somewhat different angle. If the victor spends decades looting and abusing the losing side, they really cannot be surprised that their victims continue to struggle. Consider the results of WW1, and how the vicious restrictions imposed on Germany led directly to WW2. That's what Israel has been repeating.

It's a stupid, counterproductive strategy, and they've lost my support for good.

Jerykksaid:

There comes a point where you just need to swallow your pride and accept defeat. Hamas is never going to win a war against Israel. Their continued efforts have achieved nothing but the destruction of their own country and the people within. Politics and religion are not worth the death toll.

Now, someone is inevitably going to rant about sovereignty and freedom and all that. Tell me... should Germany have continued fighting after the fall of Berlin? Should Japan have continued fighting after Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Should Native Americans be launching rockets and bombing government buildings? No. You accept defeat and start taking the road to recovery.

newtboysays...

They already looted Gaza of all they could, and destroyed nearly 100% what was left, that's why they have nothing worth having except land, which Israel is continuing to steal.
You are completely insane if you believe that anyone in 'Palestine' has even hundreds of millions, much less billions. If they had billions to spend, they would have nuked Israel years ago, or at the least have better weapons than home made, unguided, completely ineffective rockets and stones, and would find a way to buy concrete, water, food, and medicine. Things you CAN'T get in 'Palestine'. If they even had millions, they would take them and leave (individuals, that is).
No one wants to live in Palestine as it stands.

Actually, if they had billions to spend, the international community would not ignore them as they do, because they want those billions. I'm not sure where you got that idea...Fox? Seems likely, it's just the right kind of dismissive, blame the victim insanity they love.

lantern53said:

Why would Israel loot Gaza? Does Gaza have anything worth having? Other than billions stashed away at their leaders hovels?

Jerykksays...

Even if viewed from that angle, Hamas' actions have only worsened their own situation. When they won the election in 2006, they were given the opportunity to accept Israel's conditions in return for aid and support. They refused. Were Israel's sanctions justified? Maybe, maybe not. But Gaza would most certainly be better off simply accepting them. The alternative is what we have now.

Stormsingersaid:

I see this from a somewhat different angle. If the victor spends decades looting and abusing the losing side, they really cannot be surprised that their victims continue to struggle. Consider the results of WW1, and how the vicious restrictions imposed on Germany led directly to WW2. That's what Israel has been repeating.

It's a stupid, counterproductive strategy, and they've lost my support for good.

bcglorfsays...

If you want to know why Gaza hasn't been rebuilt, you need to ask who exactly is supposed to do the work and buy the materials? Presumably, Hamas being the strongest faction and nominally ruling government of Gaza, it would be on them to rebuild. The answer then IMO, is that Hamas is too busy rebuilding what really matters to them, their military capacity to continue to wage more attacks on Israel.

To be fair, Israel hasn't done much to help rebuild Gaza either, but I still must insist that the biggest burden of failure is on the leadership in Gaza who are seemingly far more successful in acquiring small arms, rockets and fighters than concrete and construction crews.

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