bcglorf says... " I believe what is widely understood to be Christianity and the actual definition don't resemble each other" I'd largely agree, although I think Christianity is widely understood to mean follower of Christ and the actual definition does match that far. I see Christianity in NA having a different problem with there being so many different opinions/beliefs of what following Christ should look like as to make the term almost meaningless. To your point about widely understood versus understood correctly, good communication isn't just about speaking accurately, but being understood accurately. ChaosEngine very succinctly made this point, National Socialism might accurately describe your group, but the public is going to misunderstand it, and I don't think yelling loudly that everyone else is wrong really helps. newtboy said: I believe in English speaking North America, "widely understood" and "correctly understood" are often divergent. I believe what is widely understood to be Christianity and the actual definition don't resemble each other, so other religions (new or old) have no obligation to be better. I believe what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I believe that nothing shown denies the possibility that they actually believe in the biblical "Satan" or another deity so named, just because the public actions are political in nature doesn't deny the possibility of honest belief and the nature of any worship is 100% open to interpretation, so your entire premise is based on assumptions and an unwillingness to apply the same standards across the board, exactly what they're fighting against. For these reasons, I find your questions moot..... .....but yes, those are the "widely understood" connotations of the words, just not necessarily the ultimate denotations. That...or Vicki Vallencourt....Vicki Vallencourt is the devil.