Stalled?!
Geeze, you're not supposed to be able to fuck up that badly in these modern birds. Sorry the pilot took 6 people with him... * eia

ETA: I'll be more charitable as we don't know the cause yet...

Backup youtube:
http://youtu.be/icfVsql38oc

"There are rumours that radio frequency monitors heard the crew report that the load had shifted just prior to the crash: the heavy cargo plane pitched up past the point at which the crew could not recover; the resulting drop in airspeed made the aircraft stall and that close to the ground there was nothing the crew could do."

http://theaviationist.com/2013/04/29/bagram-jumpo-crash/

Interestingly, that link says the taliban tried to claim responsibility for downing the aircraft. But unless they had about 100 suicide plumpers sneak on the back to weigh the plane down, they're probably full of it.

Whoa....Never thought about a massive load shift causing a major fleacup like this...Makes perfect sense, jeeeez!

That sort of stall is far too drastic and easy to avoid in normal conditions for it to be the pilot's fault. Something happened - though it would take a remarkable amount of weight to become dislodged for that to happen.

*holyshit

*wtf *fail *wings

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Obviously, there is sound with the video. How did the driver of that car avoid a "HOLY FUCK!" moment as this was happening? That guy must have really seen some shit over there if a cargo plane exploding in front of him barely elicits any emotion.

Man, the impact shook his antenna from that far away.

Yet another reason we should not be there.

I'm thinking this might be the only video ever of a 747 crash. Also, am I paying to fly MRAPS OUT of Afghanistan? Leave them there, please.

Holy fucking SHIT

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Scary. Reminds me of the completely not real crash in Knowing.

Yeah, it looks like it was trying to climb far too fast, getting the plane almost completely vertical, then it likely was hit by a breeze, turned it so the wings were giving absolutely NO lift, and fell into a slip, making it about as effective as putting engines on a pencil.. it'll go forward, but it won't stay in the air.

Very unfortunate.

it is said that a load broke free inside the plane and put all the weight into the tail

Question - anyone know what that sound is at 0:46 and again at 1:46? Some sort of interference? Dit da dit dit da dit, etc.

This one must also and obviously recognize, given the audio unedited, the calm doggy, etc, that certain folks don't lose their shit when explosions or other such mahem erupts or arises from catastrophic FUBAR, given they're used to such a display in the regular day-to-day more than the most of us, fucking-off on the internet in our cushy podz....

I'm confused. This video got discarded as snuff when the crash is barely seen in the corner of the video because four people died in the crash. This video clearly shows the crash in which all on board were killed, but no one is crying snuff. IMO, neither one is snuff because they aren't posted for "entertainment."

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You have good reason to be confused. IMO the interpretation of snuff needs to be more subjective and not so black and white. I think many good quality videos have been tossed out due to snuff being defined to rigidly.

BTW the video you pointed out imo should not have been considered snuff but at the time it wasn't a fight I wanted to take up.

Put a cellphone next to a speaker and you'll get that sound occasionally as the cellphone communicates with the tower. So yeah, electromagnetic interference. More info:
http://mentalfloss.com/article/17586/why-cell-phones-make-speakers-go-blip-blip-blip-buzz

Driver must be Russian

Sounds like the interference I get in my speakers when my phone is receiving a call or text. Seems likely that's what his is too.

GSM cell phone interference in particular.

It was slippy toad from star fox

Welcome to the Great 'Sift Snuff Debate, Round 14. Fighters, in your corners!

*DING*

Who the hell even remembers that movie?

*dark *waronterror

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Some educated speculation from FlightGlobal:

"Crews taking off from military bases like Bagram in hostile territory normally plan to climb at the maximum climb angle, to put them at the greatest height above ground level achievable by the time they cross the airfield boundary. This entails a high nose attitude that is maintained for longer than normal, rather than trading climb angle for greater airspeed to make the aircraft easier to handle and safer in the event of an engine failure.

In this film there is no clear visual evidence of a missile travelling toward the aircraft, nor of the explosion or fire that a missile would cause if it were to detonate.

The risks of a maximum angle of climb departure are many. If an engine fails very soon after take-off there is a lower airspeed than normal. Slower speed reduces the rudder authority that keeps the aircraft straight and lowers the margin above stalling speed. In the event of an engine failure it is essential for the crew to push the nose down fast to maintain a safe speed with the lower power output.

Another major risk is that if any cargo is not adequately secured in the hold, the high climb angle will cause the payload to slide backward. This could unbalance the aircraft and cause the nose to pitch up, possibly overwhelming the elevator authority available to the pilots if they attempt to push the nose down."

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/video-flightglobal-expert-analyses-bagram-747-crash-sequence-385338/?cmpid=SOC|FGFG|twitterfeed|Flightglobal

*related=http://videosift.com/video/Plane-crashes-near-freeway

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Hmm. Yeah, I see what you mean. We seem to be doomed to be constantly debating the snuff rule. Even when we nail it down in the guidelines there's a lot of leeway for interpretation. Look at it this way - Lucky is like Sonia Sotomayor and I'm Ruth Ginsburg - and you're um ... Johnny Cochran - no wait, he's dead - Your're Matlock ... You state your case and we look at precedence, I don't want to go against Sonia - maybe I would fall on the other side of the line on that last case, but there's no way Ruth Ginsberg is going to second guess Sonia Sotomayor - even if you are Johnny Cochran, or Matlock - or whatever.

I hope that's clear - the point I'm trying to make is ... we probably need to be consistent on these things, but it's tough.

> and you're um ... Johnny Cochran

As long as I'm Sam Elliot
And my horse is on fire.

the snuff rule for videosift should be reducible to a simple set of questions... lets come up with the test:

1) Is an animal or human witnessed being killed, where you can actually see them die? (this plane crash is not snuff by this rule)

2) Is something seen alive in one moment and then dead in a later scene, even though you do not witness their death? (this plane crash is not snuff by this rule)

3)....

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Wouldn't it make more sense to be realistic about the possibility of the Taliban firing missiles? Does that happen enough that every takeoff has to perform what sounds like a risky maneuver?

Pulling up that fast with a heavy load seems a high risk approach.

I suppose, that indirectly, the Taliban can claim some credit for this.

I suppose that indirectly, anyone can claim responsibility for this and any flight that's pulled-off with hitches that end in disaster-No, yes, NO.... the Taliban?? Get real, Finster, it's a U.S. air force base in Afghanistan-If they let Taliban wander in to sabotage shit it ain't gonna be a shifting load and a stall that takes out an air-freighter-This was an accident and there are no terrorists except maybe the ones in your head.

What I mean Chingy is that the nose-up take-off is from fear of enemy missile strikes. I'm sure the Taliban have a few Stingers around or whatever these kids use these days.