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gwiz665says...I, for one, am fucking outraged at [explitive deleted].
NordlichReitersays...I must say, these cops conducted themselves rather well.
As much as I wanted to say fuck 'em, I can't find a reason to.
Well placed short burst of pepper spray, and excellent response to the assault seen later in the video.
Although, they let that guy throw sucker punch at the perpetrator. I don't know who that guy is, but he would have been arrested to; for assault. If Sweden has laws like the US on assault.
gwiz665says...Oh, I think the policemen handled themselves excellently, I'm pissed off at the assailants.
MrFisksays...It's identical to a U.S. fast food joint after last call.
Kreegathsays...Whom did you say they let throw a sucker punch? It looks to me like there was a lot of commotion and the many things going on at once took a while to get a handle on. The police acted very professionally.
Then again we generally don't see them as the enemy, nor does every other citizen walk around with a conceiled weapon, so their response doesn't have to be that extreme.
TheFreaksays...During the time I lived in Sweden the police never failed to impress me.
You get so accustomed to police in the U.S. who view every civilian as the enemy, then you encounter Swedish police who seem truely concerned with helping the public. It's culture shock to say the least.
NordlichReitersays...>> ^Kreegath:
Whom did you say they let throw a sucker punch? It looks to me like there was a lot of commotion and the many things going on at once took a while to get a handle on. The police acted very professionally.
Then again we generally don't see them as the enemy, nor does every other citizen walk around with a conceiled weapon, so their response doesn't have to be that extreme.
The guy who was assaulted from the left side, at about 35-38 seconds. Then you can see the sucker punch at 45 seconds. By his body language after he threw the punch I could tell he was not a cop. No doubt the cops couldn't do much about stopping the sucker punch, and I doubt anyone really cares. It's a matter of principle, and justice is blind.
NordlichReitersays...>> ^TheFreak:
During the time I lived in Sweden the police never failed to impress me.
You get so accustomed to police in the U.S. who view every civilian as the enemy, then you encounter Swedish police who seem truely concerned with helping the public. It's culture shock to say the least.
The Freak, police used to be that way in the US too. Until the war on drugs hell the war on everything. I can't remember a time when cops in the states gave a shit about rights.
bobknight33says...If Muslims are going to be our way or die then its time to kick out the Muslims out of all the countries and ship them back to the desert. Let them eat sand not freedom. You talk about intolerance. Crap they will kill you for a cartoon. Lighten up, If you are going to live in an open society then embrace it, be part of it. If you don't like it then leave.
honkeytonk73says...Religion of peace.. my ass.
hpqpsays...>> ^honkeytonk73:
Religion of peace.. my ass.
To quote Bill Mahr: "Yes, Islam is a religion of "peace": a "peace" of you here, a "peace" of you there...
Shepppardsays...>> ^TheFreak:
During the time I lived in Sweden the police never failed to impress me.
You get so accustomed to police in the U.S. who view every civilian as the enemy, then you encounter Swedish police who seem truely concerned with helping the public. It's culture shock to say the least.
It's not just sweden, it's basically everywhere that isn't the states. For whatever reason, the cops there seem to be more corrupt then the rest of the world, and that in turn garners hatred towards all police officers, much like NordlichReiter displayed here.
dagsays...Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)
Darwin save us from angry young men and the forces that exploit them.
charliemsays...Fucking terrorists, the lot of em.
Morganthsays...Anyone else get really annoyed by the woman who wouldn't stop screaming "Allah Akbar" in the background?
gharksays...what's ironic is that the random ad that loaded for me on the right side is for a muslim dating site. Muslim singles ftw, you can join your life partner at events like these and sucker punch cartoonists happily for as long as you both shall live.
Also yes, Sweden should be very proud of their police.
Issykittysays...by tagging this terrible, I interpret that as saying that you think the artist's work was a bad idea that shouldn't have happened. Maybe it is terrible on the level that he is instigating anger from fundie Islamic nutjobs, and in the process he is putting his life in jeapardy (wtf did he expect???), but your intent with the terrible tag was to say that this was a very negative incident that took place... correct? Not what the Terrible channel tag is for. Y'know what I'm sayin'? *nochannel *religion *controversy *islam *waronterror *fear
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lavollsays...i piss on your religion
lavollsays...if the police had done anything "USA style" here, like tasering etc, i think the situation would have escelated quickly.
gwiz665says...Like bravo, terrible is a terribly named channel. But of course, you are correct.
>> ^Issykitty:
by tagging this terrible, I interpret that as saying that you think the artist's work was a bad idea that shouldn't have happened. Maybe it is terrible on the level that he is instigating anger from fundie Islamic nutjobs, and in the process he is putting his life in jeapardy (wtf did he expect???), but your intent with the terrible tag was to say that this was a very negative incident that took place... correct? Not what the Terrible channel tag is for. Y'know what I'm sayin'? nochannel religion controversy islam waronterror fear
kulpimssays...fucking religion
Kreegathsays...Some more info has been released, and it's been revealed that the person getting sucker punched was a police officer.
Apparently what broke the camel's back for the muslim audience was when they showed a clip of dutch exile-iranian gay porn in Muhammed masks.
lavollsays...mmmmm, dutch exile-iranian gay porn in Muhammed masks, the best kind.
blackjackshellacsays...Fuck all religions, with Islam and Catholicism at the top of the pile of assholery.
entr0pysays...>> ^Kreegath:
Some more info has been released, and it's been revealed that the person getting sucker punched was a police officer.
Apparently what broke the camel's back for the muslim audience was when they showed a clip of dutch exile-iranian gay porn in Muhammed masks.
I guess I can imagine a bunch of ultra conservative right wing Christians reacting the same way if exposed to gay Jesus on Jesus porn. Is Jesus on Jesus a thing? Because it should be.
ctrlaltbleachsays...Ive never been so pleased to see someone get pepper sprayed.
*edit I thought it was just a cartoon. Still crazy though.
blankfistsays...Swedish cops look more like a 1980s boy band.
rgroom1says...I trolled a fundy
Once power is returned to its rightful place, we will reinstate the laws of the one true god by reversing global warming and reinstating the mighty pirate to his rightful place on the poop deck. We will then exalt the chosen ones (midgets + trees). Your insolence will be returned with sheer terror as your fingers(and who knows what else) are replaced by noodly appendages.
FSM AKBAR!!
thinker247says...I'm pretty sure "Allah Akbar," loosely translated, means, "I'm a coward."
Crosswordssays...The thing, like others, that caught my attention the most was that the cops didn't go medieval on their asses, and they weren't fat.
fjulessays...Did you know that Sweden and Norway are countries with very, very low level of crime? That's why police is nice and doesn't beat everyone to death. They just aren't used to violence. The only crime that is committed is by immigrants like these sandniggers.
dannym3141says...>> ^fjules:
Did you know that Sweden and Norway are countries with very, very low level of crime? That's why police is nice and doesn't beat everyone to death. They just aren't used to violence. The only crime that is committed is by immigrants like these sandniggers.
Or maybe the police conduct themselves excellently so the crime rate is so low.
LarsaruSsays...Just some background information:
Vilks was speaking at a University in Uppsala. It was a lecture on his artwork, the arts and freedom of expression/speech.
Here is a more recent update on the situation and what happened. (in English)
Here is a bit more information. (In English)
Here is a link to a Swedish newspaper where you can read some more about it, it's in Swedish but there are translation services available on the Interwebs, although most of them butcher the Swedish language.
If you want me to I can do a translation of the Swedish newspaper article for you non-Swedish speaking sifters... I tried the translation tool in Chrome to see what it looks like if you use an automatic tool and it came out completely butchered (no surprise). If I do the translation myself it would be a better translation and a more correct one than the automated one so let me know.
gwiz665says...I'm so glad I went with [explitive deleted] in my post, which originally had something similar, but more simian, in mind. *dances around the flame*
>> ^fjules:
Did you know that Sweden and Norway are countries with very, very low level of crime? That's why police is nice and doesn't beat everyone to death. They just aren't used to violence. The only crime that is committed is by immigrants like these sandniggers.
quantumushroomsays...Allowing muslims into a civilized country is like pooping on a white silk pillow. Learn America's lesson, Swedes, endless immigration of 3rd world trash = scenes like this.
lavollsays...allah fuckbar
criticalthudsays...loosely translated, "allah akbar" means "Logic has no place in sheep-dom"
Sagemindsays...The artist's name is Lars Vilks.
During a free speech lecture in Sweden about the limits of artistic freedom. 15 Muslims screaming “Allahu Akbar” rushed the podium, headbutted Vilks, broke his glasses and tackled him to the floor. The whole assault was caught on tape:
Vilks has been receiving death threats since he drew an image of the prophet Muhammad with a dog’s body.
Most contemporary Sunni Muslims believe that visual depictions of the prophets generally should be prohibited, and they are particularly averse to visual representations of Muhammad.
Lars Vilks said a group of about 15 people had been shouting and trying to interrupt the lecture before the incident at Uppsala University. Vilks told The Associated Press a man in the front row ran up to him and head-butted him during a lecture, breaking his glasses but leaving him uninjured. It wasn’t immediately clear what happened to the attacker.
Lars Vilks Muhammad drawings controversy:
Vilks has faced numerous threats over his controversial drawing of Muhammad with a dog’s body, but Tuesday’s incident was the first time he has been physically assaulted.
Earlier this year U.S. investigators said Vilks was the target of an alleged murder plot involving
Colleen LaRose, an American woman who dubbed herself “Jihad Jane,” and who now faces life in prison. She had pleaded not guilty.
Sagemindsays...Cartoonist Lars Vilks attacked for showing Prophet Mohammed in gay film
merkadosays...>> ^bobknight33:
If Muslims are going to be our way or die then its time to kick out the Muslims out of all the countries and ship them back to the desert. Let them eat sand not freedom. You talk about intolerance. Crap they will kill you for a cartoon. Lighten up, If you are going to live in an open society then embrace it, be part of it. If you don't like it then leave.
>> ^fjules:
Did you know that Sweden and Norway are countries with very, very low level of crime? That's why police is nice and doesn't beat everyone to death. They just aren't used to violence. The only crime that is committed is by immigrants like these sandniggers.
>> ^quantumushroom:
Allowing muslims into a civilized country is like pooping on a white silk pillow. Learn America's lesson, Swedes, endless immigration of 3rd world trash = scenes like this.
I am completely shocked by the amount of racism in these posts, nothing worthy for VideoSift.
bobknight33says...Look Merkado What I and Quantumushroom is not raciest. What fjules said might be inappropriate to say in the USA since every one is sadly forced to be politically correct but in other countries this might be fine to say. Then again what about freedom of speech? Are we not allowed to express an opinion?
I personally find what blackjacksellac said above offensive. " Fuck all religions, with Islam and Catholicism at the top of the pile of assholery." But he has an opinion and should be allowed to express it. I'll pray for him but wont loose any sleep over his comments, or yours.
longdesays...Wow. A dog.
My sympathy for this character just went to zero.
So a vulgar, talentless, slanderer of religion is what passes for an artistic crusader for free speech in Europe?
>> ^Sagemind:
The artist's name is Lars Vilks.
During a free speech lecture in Sweden about the limits of artistic freedom. 15 Muslims screaming “Allahu Akbar” rushed the podium, headbutted Vilks, broke his glasses and tackled him to the floor. The whole assault was caught on tape:
Vilks has been receiving death threats since he drew an image of the prophet Muhammad with a dog’s body.
Most contemporary Sunni Muslims believe that visual depictions of the prophets generally should be prohibited, and they are particularly averse to visual representations of Muhammad.
Lars Vilks said a group of about 15 people had been shouting and trying to interrupt the lecture before the incident at Uppsala University. Vilks told The Associated Press a man in the front row ran up to him and head-butted him during a lecture, breaking his glasses but leaving him uninjured. It wasn’t immediately clear what happened to the attacker.
Lars Vilks Muhammad drawings controversy:
Vilks has faced numerous threats over his controversial drawing of Muhammad with a dog’s body, but Tuesday’s incident was the first time he has been physically assaulted.
Earlier this year U.S. investigators said Vilks was the target of an alleged murder plot involving
Colleen LaRose, an American woman who dubbed herself “Jihad Jane,” and who now faces life in prison. She had pleaded not guilty.
longdesays...Disappointed, but not surprised.
Downvote for a discussion that has been a springboard for blatant bigotry.
>> ^merkado:
>> ^bobknight33:
If Muslims are going to be our way or die then its time to kick out the Muslims out of all the countries and ship them back to the desert. Let them eat sand not freedom. You talk about intolerance. Crap they will kill you for a cartoon. Lighten up, If you are going to live in an open society then embrace it, be part of it. If you don't like it then leave.
>> ^fjules:
Did you know that Sweden and Norway are countries with very, very low level of crime? That's why police is nice and doesn't beat everyone to death. They just aren't used to violence. The only crime that is committed is by immigrants like these sandniggers.
>> ^quantumushroom:
Allowing muslims into a civilized country is like pooping on a white silk pillow. Learn America's lesson, Swedes, endless immigration of 3rd world trash = scenes like this.
I am completely shocked by the amount of racism in these posts, nothing worthy for VideoSift.
vlsdsays...If these people weren't losing their shit over some cartoon, they would be angry at something else. The anger came first, the cartoons are simply a pretext to express it. I am not defending their behavior, but given the shitty conditions in the middle east and the rampant racism in the western world, I can almost see how someone would explode at the smallest perceived threat to their culture.
kurtdhsays...I'm actually kind of disappointed this DIDN'T take place in the USA. Police brutality can actually be appealing in some situations..
Lithicsays...>> ^longde:
Wow. A dog.
My sympathy for this character just went to zero.
So a vulgar, talentless, slanderer of religion is what passes for an artistic crusader for free speech in Europe?
And not just any dog, a Roundabout dog! Oh the humanity, oh the vulgarity, gasp, sigh.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roundabout_dog
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Farhad2000says...As a Muslim I think their behaviour is pretty horrible. Part of the reason I like Ismalis is because one of the core tenants of their slightly different religious world view is that integration is key in any society they inhibit.
But at the same time I cannot say that drawing Muhammed as a dog or putting him in a gay film is really the founding corner stone of the fight towards assuring free speech. Free speech I think is better represented through efforts like Wikileaks.
But Muslims think they have been attacked in Western society for ages, to them this hasn't started from the cartoons but from decades of what they believe is western imperialist assault on their lives and societies through politics and war, though I don't say this to condone the actions of the young men above, whose disillusionment is captured succinctly by Dag's comment.
It just makes me sad people care so much about something that in the end to me and my own religious view seem like fairly trivial affairs. I long for the day we are released from the bondage of man made scripture and take the time to really explore those kinds of questions in periods of reflection and thought. Preferably on LSD.
SDGundamXsays...I 100% agree with that point of view. You could get a similar reaction from any group of people that feel persecuted. Take for instance the Rodney King riots. The Rodney King incident was just the spark that lit the powderkeg of centuries of built-up racism and oppression.
I'm not condoning the violence in either situation at all. I'm just saying that in this instance it has much deeper causes then most "religion-made-them-do-it" Sifters are willing to admit.
>> ^vlsd:
If these people weren't losing their shit over some cartoon, they would be angry at something else. The anger came first, the cartoons are simply a pretext to express it. I am not defending their behavior, but given the shitty conditions in the middle east and the rampant racism in the western world, I can almost see how someone would explode at the smallest perceived threat to their culture.
Pprtsays...Mind using http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6NzfR5X8Is ?
It has more context..
Edgeman2112says...Freedom of speech, maybe... But where is the value in this when you know beyond a shadow of a doubt people will get really, really pissed off at this? I don't think the cartoons are a good idea if someone's values are not the same as yours.
The whole thing seems very provacative, as if Lars wanted this to happen. That's just stupid.
gwiz665says...I'm a bit ambivalent in changing the embed to something different than what it originally was. In essence that embed would be a whole new sift on one hand, but on the other we have a big discussion and good comments going here. I've done the change for now, if someone is outraged at that, let me know and I'll switch it back and sift the big one on its own. (or let @Pprt do it. )
>> ^Pprt:
Mind using http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6NzfR5X8Is ?
It has more context..
gwiz665says...Because of the new embed, I'm gonna *doublepromote this sucker again.
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gwiz665says...Whoops, *promote
siftbotsays...Self promoting this video back to the front page; last published Tuesday, May 11th, 2010 6:20pm PDT - promote requested by original submitter gwiz665.
gwiz665says...A great victory for terrorism and violence. For shame. To hell with islam and their pedophile prophet.
beautifulmelsays...>> ^lavoll:
i piss on your religion
I shit on your piss!
( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7BmZlMRy-c )
Pprtsays...Didn't want to step on your territory, mate. Also to avoid a dupe.
Won't really comment on the event (I was on it the MINUTE it broke because of my job), because the images speak for themselves.
I'll just add with seething irony how wonderful I think it is that the Western universities who created the modern world have become champions of censorship and stifling debate.
Farhad2000says...Something my girl said makes sense as well, when the West is outraged about something it is allowed to do so and voice their opponion but whenever something offends another set of people they are ridiculed for expressing their view.
gwiz665says...The muslims are perfectly welcome to voice their opinions and say they are offended. I have no issue with that at all. Anyone and everyone has freedom of speech.
You do not have the freedom to not be ridiculed for expressing it.
Attacking someone and attempting to burn down his house is not a way to "voice your opinion", it's terrorism, it's violence, it's barbaric.
I'm offended that they try to intimidate all of us, they are welcome to try and ridicule me for that, but they are not fucking welcome to beat me up or stone me.
>> ^Farhad2000:
Something my girl said makes sense as well, when the West is outraged about something it is allowed to do so and voice their opponion but whenever something offends another set of people they are ridiculed for expressing their view.
LarsaruSsays...This happened on Friday and this happened on Saturday.
hpqpsays...To all the comments saying that this is more offensive provocation than a university class on the limits of free speech, may I remind you that all those muslims chose to be there, so they could get offended and let off violent steam? Nobody forced them to attend that conference. It is just another blatant attempt at stifling free speech through barbaric means, and scaring people into shutting up. Every time a person is attacked for expressing criticism of islam, it is also a message to everybody else: don't touch our religion, or else!
So remember, no matter how "vulgar" or "offensive" the artist's work was, the mulsim members of the public chose to be there, chose to see it, and then chose to go all ape-shit about it.
lampishthingsays...Okay, well let's go through where it would be acceptable, shall we?
I can speak for Ireland and Britain. No. Fucking. Way.>> ^bobknight33:
Look Merkado What I and Quantumushroom is not raciest. What fjules said might be inappropriate to say in the USA since every one is sadly forced to be politically correct but in other countries this might be fine to say. Then again what about freedom of speech? Are we not allowed to express an opinion?
I personally find what blackjacksellac said above offensive. " Fuck all religions, with Islam and Catholicism at the top of the pile of assholery." But he has an opinion and should be allowed to express it. I'll pray for him but wont loose any sleep over his comments, or yours.
TheFreaksays...>> ^entr0py:
>> ^entropy:
I guess I can imagine a bunch of ultra conservative right wing Christians reacting the same way if exposed to gay Jesus on Jesus porn. Is Jesus on Jesus a thing? Because it should be.
What? You've never heard of "Jesus Fucking Christ"?
rougysays...>> ^TheFreak:
>> ^entr0py:
>> ^entropy:
I guess I can imagine a bunch of ultra conservative right wing Christians reacting the same way if exposed to gay Jesus on Jesus porn. Is Jesus on Jesus a thing? Because it should be.
What? You've never heard of "Jesus Fucking Christ"?
You called?
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