You're WRONG Bill! You're So WRONG Bill! You Don't Get It!

Thick as a Frickin Brick
budzossays...

I'm an atheist and legal or not it's just DOUCHEY to post an atheistic screed next to a nativity scene. It's antagonistic, like those God Hates Fags church people protesting at funerals.

People should be free to say what they want, but legally required to try and not be a douche about it.

BicycleRepairMansays...

>> ^budzos:
I'm an atheist and legal or not it's just DOUCHEY to post an atheistic screed next to a nativity scene. It's antagonistic, like those God Hates Fags church people protesting at funerals.
People should be free to say what they want, but legally required to try and not be a douche about it.


The atheists probably does it to bring attention to the separation of church and state principle, not to ruin the nativity scene. The point is that a sign declaring that "there is no god" has no business being put up in a state-owned building, nor has a Nativity scene any business being there. The State is supposed to be NEUTRAL towards religious and non-religious opinions

The douchebaggery is allowing nativity-scenes in the first place, not the act of protesting against them

dgandhisays...

>> ^budzos: People should be free to say what they want, but legally required to try and not be a douche about it.

So installing statuary supporting a mythology which states, in no uncertain terms, that the rest of us are going to burn in fiery torment for eternity is not at all douchey?

Grimmsays...

>> ^westy:
both of them are rong lol at least bilo knows athesim is not a religoin lol
its possable the woman is just talking from how the courts think of it though not her opinoin ,


I think she just miss-spoke because right after saying that "atheism is a religion" she said that it is recognized as a "religious point of view" and is treated the same as Christianity by the courts.

HenningKOsays...

>> ^Grimm:
>> ^westy:
both of them are rong lol at least bilo knows athesim is not a religoin lol
its possable the woman is just talking from how the courts think of it though not her opinoin ,

I think she just miss-spoke because right after saying that "atheism is a religion" she said that it is recognized as a "religious point of view" and is treated the same as Christianity by the courts.


Yeah, that's an interesting point that I did not realize.
Legally, "Atheist" is a religion!
Next step: tax-exempt contributions to Atheist Beer-nights across the country!

rottenseedsays...

Atheism is a religious point of view in that it is the denial of the ideals and constructs of any religion. It's just like saying that you are against abortion, you in fact have a point of view about it without agreeing with it.

but, atheism is not a religion.

I do agree with Bill O though about it being wrong that she ceased accepting "decoration" for the holiday seasons. She shoulda just thrown them all out and apologized for the mistake.

JiggaJonsonsays...

I LOVE that look of desperation that she gives the camera at the end of the interview. The look that says "MOTHER FUCK you just can NOT talk sense into this bastard!!!"

and then the fists calmly 'slammed' on the table like "well..shit..I TRIED"

biminimsays...

The worst thing about this whole O'Reilly farce is that there are some people in this country who grow up in a household with a "man" like him as their father. Imagine being fed nonsense all your life and yelled down when you try to object. "Shut up, Beatrice! Shut up! Well, fuck it--go up to your room! No dinner for--fuck it!! Shut up! And if I hear a peep out of you, I'm going to bring up Mr. Jiggles!"

jrbedfordsays...

>> ^rottenseed:
I do agree with Bill O though about it being wrong that she ceased accepting "decoration" for the holiday seasons. She shoulda just thrown them all out and apologized for the mistake.


Agreed. According to Megyn Kelly the gov could have said at any point "this is overwhelming, no further displays". Like, right after the nativity scene went up, or at any other point. Regardless of separation of church and state, that's just being a fucker.

Either way, though, none of that crap should be displayed on state grounds. Ridiculous. Literally. Worthy of ridicule.

toastsays...

We can fairly argue whether it was right for her to stop accepting new displays and allowing the previous ones to stay, or whether she should take them all down...

...but for Bill I'diot to go around saying that she was stopping free speech or stopping view points &c is not what has happened here.

IMO, if it is true that they have run out of space or that the displays have become overwhelming, it is fair enough to say stop to all new ones. If she had put in her original terms that the displays will be accepted on a first come first serve basis, we would not have anything to argue about.

14046says...

For those arguing that atheism is not a religion, here is the definition of religion given by dictionary.com:

noun

1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.

5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

A widespread belief shared by a number of individuals regarding creation and the existence of divine beings is indeed a religion, our courts definitely got it right.

Grimmsays...

>> ^Estuffing83:
A widespread belief shared by a number of individuals regarding creation and the existence of divine beings is indeed a religion, our courts definitely got it right.


One problem with your point. Look at the definition of religion and every inch of it is about "beliefs". You acknowledge this by referring to atheism as a "belief shared by...". The problem is that the word atheism is not a word that tells you what that group of people "believes". It in fact does the opposite and explains what that group of people does NOT believe.

Atheism is not a belief and therefore is not a religion.

In fact "theism" itself does not qualify as a religion so why would atheism?

And finally if atheism is a religion it begs the question, what isn't a religion?

gwiz665says...

Atheism isn't a religion, it's a lack of religion. That much is agreed upon.

However, the law deals with religious points of views, and atheism is a religious point of view, in that it is the rejection of all religions. This means that the law deals with Christianity, Islam, Satanism and Atheism under the same guidelines and rules.

Grimmsays...

>> ^obscenesimian:
How about this Law?
"Whereas, the use of the word "douchebag" is hereby deemed a "douchebag" move and is in it's self "douchebaggery", we propose that it's use be banned from the sift."


By definition that would be a douchebag move.

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