WikiLeaks Has Proven the First Amendment is Dead and Gone

Pretty incredible considering the source.
Gamblesays...

Judge Napolitano is actually a pretty level-headed guy. Just about any show on Fox that he gets called into talk on, he often presents damn good points. It's a shame they give Glenn Beck a show but this guy gets mere tidbits.

And yes, I watch Fox News. I watch all major media, simply because I don't trust any of them. </paranoid>

Yogisays...

>> ^Gamble:

Judge Napolitano is actually a pretty level-headed guy. Just about any show on Fox that he gets called into talk on, he often presents damn good points. It's a shame they give Glenn Beck a show but this guy gets mere tidbits.
And yes, I watch Fox News. I watch all major media, simply because I don't trust any of them. </paranoid>


You must have an awful lot of time on your hands. Time you could use to do research projects into how the media reacts to things.

COriolanussays...

>> ^IronDwarf:

Can someone explain how one arrives at the title for this video from its content?


Have you ever seen a dead tree? Often you can see a dead tree still standing in a forest. Squirrels running up the tree, birds flying in and out etc.

But the tree is dead.

Much like the spirit that can produce a 1st Amendment; that spirit is dead amongst the analog class of Americans in modern times to the class of folks who gave us the 1st Amendment way back when.

The folks in charge now would not come up with a free republic if they had the opportunity to start from scratch today. We have the structural remnant of freedom, but the life force that animates that freedom is gone, at least among a certain class in America.

But you knew that, you were just being petulant, dick.

IronDwarfsays...

>> ^COriolanus:

>> ^IronDwarf:
Can someone explain how one arrives at the title for this video from its content?

Have you ever seen a dead tree? Often you can see a dead tree still standing in a forest. Squirrels running up the tree, birds flying in and out etc.
But the tree is dead.
Much like the spirit that can produce a 1st Amendment; that spirit is dead amongst the analog class of Americans in modern times to the class of folks who gave us the 1st Amendment way back when.
The folks in charge now would not come up with a free republic if they had the opportunity to start from scratch today. We have the structural remnant of freedom, but the life force that animates that freedom is gone, at least among a certain class in America.
But you knew that, you were just being petulant, dick.


I'm the one being petulant? I was asking a serious question. But if you wanna just call each other names, I can do that too, cunt.

FlowersInHisHairsays...

>> ^Payback:

I thought the Constitution only protected American citizens. Assange isn't American.


True that he isn't American, but I would've hoped that a government of a country that has a constitutionally-enshrined free press wouldn't seek to censor a press source from any other country that comes into posession of leaked documents. In other words, one would hope that the American government would respect their own constitution enough to consider its fundamental protections to be universally applicable.

Xaielaosays...

This entire situation also proves that in the US we basically have no free press anymore. Besides the Times and a few other news organizations, the US news media is entirely bought and sold by corporations and the government itself.

The government really has succeeded at the impossible by all but completely subverting the Free Press in this country and the outrage over Wikileaks by many of the major news outlets just goes to show how everything they say is controlled by the corporations that own them. Most of the 'news' we have today is just sensationalism and subversion. The title of this very video is an example of that. Just like with the Pentagon Papers, which exposed that the pentagon had provoked an attack on US vessels by the North Vietnamese and then lied about saying the attack was unwarranted in an attempt to swing public favor to those who wanted a war. Sound familiar?

quantumushroomsays...

The only reason ASSange is a "hero" to the left is because he's an anti-American POS. If he posted leaks about all the fraud and waste of socialist governments and the 100 million murdered by communist governments, he'd be all alone.

An enemy spy who published national security secrets would be assassinated; that's what the albino turd is.

direpicklesays...

>> ^Payback:

I thought the Constitution only protected American citizens. Assange isn't American.


"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

I think that's pretty clear, there, that it doesn't matter whether someone's a citizen or non-citizen. Freedom of the press shall not be abridged.

The Constitution actually makes pretty infrequent use of the word 'citizen'. AFAIK, the Constitution applies to all people under the jurisdiction of the government, and that there've been supreme court cases that have concluded this (I could be wrong, though, 'cuz I'm too lazy to go hunt them down). Assange, as a non-American not on American soil, doesn't get the protections granted to *people* until they get him here, I suppose.

But the freedom of the press definitely isn't targeted at only citizens or even only people. Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of the press. Very straightforward.

And this is why they're trying to name him an enemy combatant or a terrorist, and not a member of the press, so they can pretend that this is an exceptional case and that the Constitution can be circumvented, that he can be assassinated, etc. Because they have no real legal leg to stand on.

KnivesOutsays...

Someone's off their meds again, and/or has been listening to too much Rush.>> ^quantumushroom:

The only reason ASSange is a "hero" to the left is because he's an anti-American POS. If he posted leaks about all the fraud and waste of socialist governments and the 100 million murdered by communist governments, he'd be all alone.
An enemy spy who published national security secrets would be assassinated; that's what the albino turd is.

Duckman33says...

>> ^KnivesOut:

Someone's off their meds again, and/or has been listening to too much Rush.
<div><div style="margin: 10px; overflow: auto; width: 80%; float: left; position: relative;" class="convoPiece"> quantumushroom said:<img style="margin: 4px 10px 10px; float: left; width: 40px;" src="http://static1.videosift.com/avatars/q/quantumushroom-s.jpg" onerror="ph(this)"><div style="position: absolute; margin-left: 52px; padding-top: 1px; font-size: 10px;" class="commentarrow">◄</div><div style="padding: 8px; margin-left: 60px; margin-top: 2px; min-height: 30px;" class="nestedComment box">The only reason ASSange is a "hero" to the left is because he's an anti-American POS. If he posted leaks about all the fraud and waste of socialist governments and the 100 million murdered by communist governments, he'd be all alone.
An enemy spy who published national security secrets would be assassinated; that's what the albino turd is.
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