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Trancecoachsays...And here's a prominent scientist's critique of the IPCC. It provides a good rebuttal to those who imagine that the only critics are ignorant and/or venal people who believe in a vast conspiracy of climate scientists.
newtboyjokingly says...This video was about you.
EDIT: and to understand who you are supporting as a 'prominent scientist'...
http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2014/06/daniel-botkin-obediently-tells-denier.html
Typical self serving ex-scientist turned political writer with self created, scientific sounding 'associations' and climate change denying books to sell you.
And here's a prominent scientist's critique of the IPCC. It provides a good rebuttal to those who imagine that the only critics are ignorant and/or venal people who believe in a vast conspiracy of climate scientists.
enochsays...i am not a climatologist nor a scientist,but i play one on an MMORPG and therefore my opinion matters.
taking offers now to the highest bidder!
i shall easily sell my credentials now for drugs and hookers later!
c'mon EXXON! papa needs a new summer home in the hamptons!
*promote
siftbotsays...Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Tuesday, December 16th, 2014 12:25am PST - promote requested by enoch.
speechlesssays...And here's you just plagiarizing what someone else said again.
http://i.imgur.com/qZRwdbv.jpg
Really starting to wonder if you're even capable of an original thought.
And here's a prominent scientist's critique of the IPCC. It provides a good rebuttal to those who imagine that the only critics are ignorant and/or venal people who believe in a vast conspiracy of climate scientists.
JiggaJonsonsays...*promote
See also: http://youtu.be/iGCfiv1xtoU?t=3m47s
siftbotsays...Promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Tuesday, December 16th, 2014 11:46am PST - promote requested by JiggaJonson.
newtboyjokingly says...God Damn It @Trancecoach...AGAIN?!?
Do you not see the irony of telling others to 'think for themselves', while being completely incapable of doing just that yourself?
(facepalm-slow, sad head shake)
And here's you just plagiarizing what someone else said again.
http://i.imgur.com/qZRwdbv.jpg
Really starting to wonder if you're even capable of an original thought.
bareboards2says...The thing that leapt out at me in this vid?
The factoid that we have a finite ability to worry about things.
And since conservatives are worried about gay sex and g-d damn those welfare cheats and ebola and ISIS -- there isn't any room left to worry about this. The real threat to their existence.
Fairbssays...In response to some of his questions at the end, I think a safe start would be to switch to alternative energy sources as a means to improve national security. That answers the question of why to do it. Lessening dependency on foreign oil would decrease being seen as meddlers in foreign lands or intentional meddling as I believe to be the case. In fact, I think we're already seeing this as the price of oil is decreasing. A side effect is that supply may simply shift to say China. If improvements in alternative energy accelerate the examples could be shared world wide. Sadly we'd be so much farther along had Jimmy Carters course not been reversed by reagan.
Note: All of this is speaking from the mindset of a U.S. citizen although I think it would also be true for many other nations.
antsays...*nature
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Nature) - requested by ant.
RFlaggsays...The real problem is that even once thing become so obvious that climate change is real, and the predictions are real, they'll still deny it was humans had anything to do with the acceleration of climate change, or at least they'll deny it had as much as science proves it does. They'll just point to it being more signs of the end times, which is all the more reason to vote against fundies, as they are prone to letting stuff go, or trying to encourage things to happen that they see as end time predictions just because they think if all the signs are there that means the return of Jesus is soon, of course they discount that there is an appointed time which might still be 50,000 years from now and if we muck things up now, that's 50,000 years of end times in full force that could have been avoided. And I base this on personal experience with deniers who are already willing to pass it off as just signs of the end of times...
Another problem is that they think that scientist are saying 100% of all climate change is caused by human activity, or at least that's how the right wing media sells that is what is being said. They don't understand that what is being talked here is the acceleration from the norm. They just point to the Earth goes through warming/cooling periods all the time and ignore the acceleration, and if they do acknowledge it, they pass it off as debatable, because the far right doesn't understand science (I should know I used to be one). Once the changes become so drastic, they'll just point to God letting go, or causing it for it being the end times, and point to the Bible versus that show such things will happen.
bcglorfsays...People doubt climate change because the noise of the people pushing agendas has drowned out the actual science. Even the major media, both 'defending' and 'attacking' climate change all get things entirely wrong and misrepresent the actual science. Lets be honest most people, particularly many of the people claiming to be well informed, really haven't looked at the actual science available and assessed it honestly.
99% of the world right now fits into two camps, the 'believers' defending the coming apocalypse that we've created and must adapt to yesterday, and the deniers who disagree.
The actual scientists observing that there is a warming trend that we are contributing to aren't listened to be EITHER side. When the IPCC posts projections for 2100, even the IPCC most optimistic view riles up the deniers and even the IPCC most gloomy view is dismissed by the 'believers'.
Don't hold out any hope that facts, reason and logic are gonna shift humanity anytime soon. Historically speaking it's pretty much not gonna happen,
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