Senator Elizabeth Warren delivers a floor speech on March 9, 2016, urging Senate Republicans to give timely consideration and an up-down-vote to President Barack Obama's Supreme Court nominee.

"SHALL nominate judges, executive officials, and Justices to the Supreme court", not "may", not "can under certain circumstances", not "unless he's black", not "except in the last year of their term".
It's astonishing the Republicans can claim to love the constitution at the same time they wipe their ass with it and continue to get away with that lie.
It's also astonishing that they can claim to love America but for possible future political gain are willing to hobble if not force hibernation on one branch of government, and have found support for that plan.
bobknight33says...

She is full of shit.

Republicans are doing their job.
The President needs to submit a nominee to the senate decide whether or not to allow the nominee to become a Supreme Court Justice.

There no rule saying they HAVE TO appoint an OBAMA pick. They don't have to do jack.

Republicans are not bowing to extremest they are stopping extremest from derailing the country.

Dumdeedumsays...

Of course Obama's an extremist, don't you remember when he enacted Sharia Law and took away all your guns? Or the incarceration and subjugation of all white heterosexual males? Or outlawed Christianity, Christmas and the US flag?

00Scud00says...

No Bob, they are not doing their jobs, they have stated that they will not even consider anybody that he submits for the position.
Nobody's asking them to greenlight whatever clown Obama decides to send their way, as Warren said, they can vote to refuse that nomination if they wish.
They're stonewalling so they can wrap this up and put a bow on it for the next Republican president. Of course, if the Republicans don't take the Whitehouse in 2016 I wonder what kind of excuse they'll come up with when they have to deal with another Democratic President.

bobknight33said:

She is full of shit.

Republicans are doing their job.
The President needs to submit a nominee to the senate decide whether or not to allow the nominee to become a Supreme Court Justice.

There no rule saying they HAVE TO appoint an OBAMA pick. They don't have to do jack.

Republicans are not bowing to extremest they are stopping extremest from derailing the country.

newtboysays...

Yes, clearly by refusing to even consider nominees, they have stated that they won't fulfil the clearly delineated constitutional duty of giving "advice and consent".
"Fuck you darkie" is not advice or consent.
Let's just hope that if they stick to their guns and do hold the nomination process (and therefore the Supreme Court's ability to function) hostage that the end result is a democratic super majority in the house and senate on top of the presidency, and at least 2 supreme court positions to fill in the next 4 years (maybe more).
If that happens, and IF (and it's a big "if") they manage to get rid of gerrymandering, citizens united, and targeted voter blocking 'regulations', we'll never have to hear about the republicans again outside history classes, because without rigging the system they can't win anywhere.

00Scud00said:

No Bob, they are not doing their jobs, they have stated that they will not even consider anybody that he submits for the position.
Nobody's asking them to greenlight whatever clown Obama decides to send their way, as Warren said, they can vote to refuse that nomination if they wish.
They're stonewalling so they can wrap this up and put a bow on it for the next Republican president. Of course, if the Republicans don't take the Whitehouse in 2016 I wonder what kind of excuse they'll come up with when they have to deal with another Democratic President.

noimssays...

Unfortunately the democratic party also has a vested interest in keeping the two-party system, so I doubt they'll be getting rid of anything significant. The party itself has demonstrated this by its treatment of candidates like Lessig and Sanders.

The pendulum will always swing away from the governing party eventually, and that means it will always swing back to the republicans. The best you can hope for is that it would be a significantly changed republican party, as has happened in the past while (albeit in the 'wrong' direction, from my point of view).

newtboysaid:

Yes, clearly by refusing to even consider nominees, they have stated that they won't fulfil the clearly delineated constitutional duty of giving "advice and consent".
"Fuck you darkie" is not advice or consent.
Let's just hope that if they stick to their guns and do hold the nomination process (and therefore the Supreme Court's ability to function) hostage that the end result is a democratic super majority in the house and senate on top of the presidency, and at least 2 supreme court positions to fill in the next 4 years (maybe more).
If that happens, and IF (and it's a big "if") they manage to get rid of gerrymandering, citizens united, and targeted voter blocking 'regulations', we'll never have to hear about the republicans again outside history classes, because without rigging the system they can't win anywhere.

Jinxsays...

That's a democratically elected "extremist" tho. Plenty of dictatorships out there bob, you're welcome to pack your bags and go there if that's what you want.

bobknight33said:

She is full of shit.

Republicans are doing their job.
The President needs to submit a nominee to the senate decide whether or not to allow the nominee to become a Supreme Court Justice.

There no rule saying they HAVE TO appoint an OBAMA pick. They don't have to do jack.

Republicans are not bowing to extremest they are stopping extremest from derailing the country.

Paybacksays...

Not Canada. We democratically elect our dictatorships too.

Jinxsaid:

That's a democratically elected "extremist" tho. Plenty of dictatorships out there bob, you're welcome to pack your bags and go there if that's what you want.

newtboysays...

That's why I said "and it's a big "IF"".
I have little love or respect for the Democratic party these days either.

noimssaid:

Unfortunately the democratic party also has a vested interest in keeping the two-party system, so I doubt they'll be getting rid of anything significant. The party itself has demonstrated this by its treatment of candidates like Lessig and Sanders.

The pendulum will always swing away from the governing party eventually, and that means it will always swing back to the republicans. The best you can hope for is that it would be a significantly changed republican party, as has happened in the past while (albeit in the 'wrong' direction, from my point of view).

johnmburt1960says...

To advise would be to hold hearings, which Senator McConnell has pre-emptively said the Senate would refuse to do.
Mr. McConnell, do your damn job. Hold the hearings, hold a vote.

bobknight33said:

She is full of shit.

Republicans are doing their job.
The President needs to submit a nominee to the senate decide whether or not to allow the nominee to become a Supreme Court Justice.

There no rule saying they HAVE TO appoint an OBAMA pick. They don't have to do jack.

Republicans are not bowing to extremest they are stopping extremest from derailing the country.

bobknight33says...

Their job is to decide what is going to be put to the floor and when. They are doing their job. Harry Reid was great in shutting down any Republican plan. Nothing Republican was presented by Reid when Dems were in control.

00Scud00said:

No Bob, they are not doing their jobs, they have stated that they will not even consider anybody that he submits for the position.
Nobody's asking them to greenlight whatever clown Obama decides to send their way, as Warren said, they can vote to refuse that nomination if they wish.
They're stonewalling so they can wrap this up and put a bow on it for the next Republican president. Of course, if the Republicans don't take the Whitehouse in 2016 I wonder what kind of excuse they'll come up with when they have to deal with another Democratic President.

bobknight33says...

HE is. He controls what and when gets to be presented.
Reid did the same in blocking the Republicans when Dems were in control.

johnmburt1960said:

To advise would be to hold hearings, which Senator McConnell has pre-emptively said the Senate would refuse to do.
Mr. McConnell, do your damn job. Hold the hearings, hold a vote.

bobknight33says...

Obama and the Democrats are the extremest not the Republicans.

Jinxsaid:

That's a democratically elected "extremist" tho. Plenty of dictatorships out there bob, you're welcome to pack your bags and go there if that's what you want.

JustSayingsays...

Oh my god, Bob, you're hilarious. Your favourite party is going to make Trump their presidential candidate and you say that? That? Seriously?!

You magnificent clown, I love you.

bobknight33said:

Obama and the Democrats are the extremest not the Republicans.

eric3579says...

If you are going to quote him, me thinks you should say 'your comments' instead of "his comments" or it just seems passive aggressive. But that's just how it sounds to me.

shagen454said:

His comments are so brain-dead that I think he is probably just a troll.

kceaton1says...

Warning, this is long. It's a general reply to bob, but really it's a rant about the reality of this country, origins, issue, and where we are headed... Like they say in Horace and Pete, at this point we just might deserve a president like Trump (especially because we are stupid enough to vote for HIM, and for so many Senators AND Congressmen like him or even far worse)...

Reply to bob at the top...


I hate to tell you, but "SHALL", according to the times in which the founding fathers wrote this IS indeed the utmost highest form of that period meaning that you "HAVE TO" do something.

Go ahead and let your own party change what grammar and vocabulary meant from that period--or simply not have enough brains to know what it really means (though most of us know by now their assistants have let them know what it means, they just refuse to believe reality and instead insert their own collective psychotic delusion).

Typically when it says SHALL (BTW, NOT doing that job should be getting them in HUGE amounts of trouble as well), they should be doing everything they can TO nominate a new judge into the open position in their next open session (not a session one year away, so Trump or Hillary has to do it).

If they want to complain about the nominee they CAN, just while they are under scrutiny to go up for the vote. But, they simply are NOT supposed to do nothing and furthermore say they WON'T do anything...

I'll have to look up what the penalty is for not doing this, but it could be a full "boot" from their job. Simply what has been referred to by Republicans in the past as Impeachment. But, then the Senate has to start that (I'm not sure if anyone else can; hence, this is why I said I'd try to see if there is anything else that can be done)

I believe they can also do it at the state level... BUT ALL of this requires for our government officials to do their fucking jobs! PLUS, the citizens that voted them in to give a shit!
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We REALLY, REALLY, do not deserve a country like this...it is BARELY alive and well. We are just a few presidential terms away (plus senators and congressmen) before we grind to a complete halt.

Then we can finally watch everything implode on CNN and FOX while REAL extremists take over and then the real fun starts. True extremists taking control with minimal bloodshed and shouting matches, civil war with outcomes that grant us either the NEO-United States (the U.S.A. V:2.0, which might be good), to the Neo-Confederacy (since that is what it all amounts to on the FAR right's spectrum). OR we simply just dissolve and become something entirely new.

Hey, bob did you know that your party used to be JUST like the Democrats of Lincoln's age. The Republican's were more like the Democrat's of our age. Weird right. THAT conservative party died out with Teddy Roosevelt's Bull Moose party; then all of the citizens decided that they simply liked the name "Republican" more (since they'd always voted for that name, right...it'd be weird to change it). That is where the Republican's became a FAR different party than they had been (though they still had a few more GREAT leaders before their schism drove them all, sadly, into madness ). The "Democrat's", they thought slavery was just peachy at first, and now they vote for gay-rights. NEITHER party remembers it's roots and the citizens of the United States have had their idiotic teachers and parents tell them all sorts of stories about how great either party WAS, but never telling them what they are like NOW. We all need to vote for our president, nowadays, without even LOOKING at their part's affiliation. It doesn't do any of us any good. Because none of them have ANY real lineage or links to the old presidents of these United States--they're full of shit.

Just remember, Republicans and their party were formed basically to try and abolish slavery--now they are more likely to put it back into action; a complete reversal of their direction, progressive and liberal!

Democrats tried to keep things the same as it was and to even expand slavery--now they want to allow marijuana to be legal, allow gays to have rights, and essentially pick up many progressive and liberal causes... They too have utterly reversed the direction they were at and taking during Abraham Lincoln's time. Conservative on many topics and wanting to expand the states' rights and abilities. Now they are the ones that would abolish slavery and even have Lincoln on their ticket if he ran...

Our parties in these United States are abysmal, a joke, a farce, and shouldn't even be used... The Founding Fathers would be dismayed over so many issues it wouldn't be even funny. They would more than likely throw OUT the Constitution and start a new draft, simply due to the amount of changes we've made in the WRONG direction and the fact that they weren't able to see the future far enough ahead to imagine gigantic empires made only of Business (with a mere handful of people, not hundreds, thousands, and many more like it was in their times) and how News would become so powerful it is essentially as powerful as the president of the United States--and if watched by enough people it is even FAR more powerful than him/her (like in Russia; The Internet being the ONE thing the Founding Fathers would pat our country on the back over and it's what can restore balance to the people who watch or only can gain information from these entities; a new type of "University" where anything can be shared; truth and facts obtained at every man's fingertips nearly instantly at any point on this planet; it IS the world's greatest WONDER ever made).

Lastly, they would absolutely abhor our parties and how they are used--internally and externally (how our politicians...how all the issues interconnect together; all politicians that receive outside money, they would likely want to have them all impeached, same with those that USE the media; they would HATE parties--but they know they'll always exist, you just have to get rid of the things that LET parties abuse we the people and also the government, and those things are: money and media...).


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bobknight33said:

She is full of shit.

Republicans are doing their job.
The President needs to submit a nominee to the senate decide whether or not to allow the nominee to become a Supreme Court Justice.

There no rule saying they HAVE TO appoint an OBAMA pick. They don't have to do jack.

Republicans are not bowing to extremest they are stopping extremest from derailing the country.

Aziraphalesays...

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

He is a perfect example of what happens to a person when you conflate your opinions with your identity; an abject rejection of any evidence contradictory to his world view. I sort of pity him.

shagen454said:

His comments are so brain-dead that I think he is probably just a troll.

johnmburt1960says...

Really?
Who was the Supreme Court nominee on whom Senator Reid refused to hold any hearings?
For how many months was a seat vacant on the court?
This whole business is reminding me more and more of how the Republicans refused to allow President Obama to appoint Elizabeth Warren to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Remind me...how did that work out for the GOPers...?
Gee, how did that work out for the

bobknight33said:

HE is. He controls what and when gets to be presented.
Reid did the same in blocking the Republicans when Dems were in control.

shagen454says...

Notice how Bob has nothing to say after a reply like this... I doubt he has the objectivity to delve into a real conversation.

kceaton1said:

Warning, this is long. It's a general reply to bob

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