I wish I could vote for her.

This from Trollboy Newt. thanks

Who cares - Even if they had a week to look at it.- No Dem would vote for it-- They are obstructionists.

At least Democrats had an hour to bitch ..

The AHA ( Obama Care) had to be passed to see what was in it.



To be fair. Democrats controlled most of the last 8 years and did nothing about tax reform. Shame on them. Sucks sitting at the back of the bus. --That"s what happens when you fuck Americans and heap 8 Trillion onto the debt. YOU LOOSE.

Republican will save the day , again.

You're actually calling the Democrats in congress obstructionists? I'm reasonably certain we have as many federal vacancies as we do largely due to the Republican congress of the past several years doing their damnedest to block every single thing Obama tried to get done. That accusation is phenomenally hypocritical. I certainly acknowledge the current congressional Democrats have been voting no or voting to not proceed quite a bit lately, but they've also been cut off from the process of lawmaking to the highest degree possible. You can't expect cooperation from people that you don't even let sit at the table while laws are being drafted and discussed.

That last word was a joke of course - there's been damn near no discussion of this bill. The last time the United States had a major tax overhaul was also under republican oversight, in 1986. During the course of creating that legislation they took over 6 months and had more than a dozen hearings on it, ensuring reasonable transparency. This latest bill was slapped together over a few weeks and had a completely opaque process.

You claim the Democrats "fucked Americans" because they added 8 trillion to the debt. My understanding is this bill, over the next 10 years, will add a minimum of another trillion. The fact that it's so negative overall will also, due to existing law, require a balancing by way of cutting other programs - Medicaid at the least is expected to see major cuts, just as a side effect of this bill. Of course, it isn't really a side effect per se, they just couldn't get enough R votes if they either made the necessary changes to keep the bill deficit-neutral or included the provision that would've waived the mandatory cuts. So it's laughable to claim the current Republicans in congress really have an interest in being fiscally conservative or even moderate.

I'm likely wasting my time here though, as I don't think you're actually interested in engaging in an honest conversation, nor do you seem to be open to changing your viewpoint at all. I wonder though whether you know enough about politics from the last several decades to have a guess as what Republicans from the Reagan era would think about how things are being done today. My guess is they'd be appalled, but perhaps I'm overestimating them.

Bob you cant just lie outright, that does not make a sensible discussion possible.

Sensible discussion is not his goal.
https://videosift.com/video/How-the-Alt-Right-Trolls

Yeah and Republicans are self interested ass wipes, child molesters (Roy Moore) need I say more? 2018 polls are going to be a wave of Republican regret for voting that douche bag in chief we have now. And as far as the GOP tax plan it just adds more to the deficit and gives Corps and the Rich more tax breaks.

That post can be easily said about the left as well.
Nice try Trollboy.

Dems had 8 years to do tax reform and did nothing.

Roy Moore?? We will see when his accusers have their day in court. Till then Roy is innocent.
Your side (Dems) are not so fortunate. The Democrat / Liberal list grows by the day. The party of debauchery.

So if a Republican is accused of sexual predation, they are innocent until proven guilty, but if a democrat or liberal is accused of the same thing, they should hung out to dry?

Even for you, bob, that doesn't make much sense.

The difference is that when a liberal is accused of these things, other liberals don't accuse their victims of being liars. Other liberals are sad that someone they once admired has fallen so low.

But we don't defend them and we certainly don't advocate them running for office.

Dems don't do tax reform where only the rich get richer or schemes to jump start the economy that are predicted to increase it by .1% while adding over a trillion to the defecit so that later they can cut safety net programs

when 1 woman comes out and says something, I'm a bit skeptical; in moores case there's the women, shop owners, security guards, business associates, ... all saying that he was a creepy bastard and would try to date highschool girls when he was in his 30s; that's sick shite

and good old trump has 20 women accusing him of being from inappropriate up to and including rape; are all of them lying??? I sincerely doubt it; legally he's innocent, but in truth I believe he's a serious scumbag and guilty... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2017/nov/30/donald-trump-sexual-misconduct-allegations-full-list

Today another Republican woman provided lots of evidence they repeatedly dated when she was in high school and he was DA. Handwritten signed cards, yearbooks, guest lists, date mementos, witnesses, etc. ...and he's still ahead in polls because nothing matters to the right beyond party affiliation....nothing.
We are so fucked.

Party affiliation is A#1!! We've been at 90-95% for quite a while now, so 100% doesn't come as a huge shock to me.

Age of consent is 16 in Alabama(and Canada eh), anybody come forward with a criminal complaint yet?

It's no shock, but it's horrifically destructive and a devastatingly sad state of affairs.
Statutes of limitations means no criminal complaints are possible on 30+ year old crimes, but he's been accused of having sex with 14 year olds when in his 30's, a moral crime without time limitations, and there's good evidence he's also a bold faced liar currently.

Thank you for linking that.

hmm

Tax reform? You mean the Republican tax plan which will raise taxes for families making between $20k and $40k, while cutting an average of $37K a year for those in the top 1%?

Is this what Jesus taught you? To give to the rich and fuck the poor?

"Your side (Dems) are not so fortunate. The Democrat / Liberal list grows by the day. The party of debauchery."

The leader of the Republicans, the president YOU voted for, is responsible for this, and you dare to pretend to to have the moral high ground? Have you no shame you spineless hypocrite?

Evidence?
I thought not.

2 years....during which he reversed the Republican engineered depression.
There's this thing called Google. When you want to post a fact without being called a know nothing ignoramus, try looking there first to see just how wrong you are before proving it.

Moore's (mostly Republican) accusers all waited too long. It's no surprise that children kept quiet when threatened by a DA/judge, though. He won't see court unless there's a provable continuing cover-up or recent victims.
Your president is not so fortunate, his 20+ accusers will have their day in court....not that his guilt would change your mind about anything, nothing could.
"Facts are for liberals".

Funny you don't even notice that your position is Republicans are all innocent victims of liars even with clear and solid evidence against them and Democrats are all guilty of more than they're accused of by Project Veritas until (or even after) they're proven innocent, no evidence required....almost like facts don't matter.....

Your right Dems don't do tax reform-- They just raise taxes

That video in question is just made up ALT Right.
Standard fair to only blame the right..

Can't think of anything to say to my previous post Bob? Can you explain why you support a party that raises taxes for the poor to give to the rich? Did Jesus teach you that? He would be disgusted by people like you.

And can you explain why you support a president who is a debaucherous lecher? Will you yell "Boss TRUMP!" when he grabs your loved ones by the pussy? And why are you full of double standards and make excuses to support a pedophile?

It's because you are a hypocrite and you have no morals Bob.

The Republicans don't do tax reform (or math), they just raise taxes on the poor and middle class and give handouts to rich and corporations.

FTFY.

Keep in mind he told us he would run the country like one of his business, which means run it into the ground and embezzle funds until bankrupt and he gets barred from running things. His first likely legislation adds over 1 trillion to the debt so his kids can keep an extra billion of his money. That pretty much destroys any fiscal argument you could have had against democrats permanently.

So I support a party that raised taxes and you support a party that does what? Lower taxes?

You don know jack. we can only speculate.
It has not passed yet.

tow the leftest party line.

Yep we be throwing grandma off the cliff and cutting school lunch for little johnny.

Lets not forget this tax plan is Armageddon --

No wonder you party has lost its ass in elections over the last 8 years.

The elitist raping party of snow flake stupidity.

My grand kids will only be able to read history books of this defunct klan party

No- his foreign policy is Armageddon, the tax plan is just planned bankruptcy.

For most mid/low income Americans, yes.

True, even Republican senators can only speculate since it's 500 pages of handwritten chicken scratched nonsense and unreadable as presented.

So you have a copy. send it to me.

And Obama apology tour was the better move.
Trump is kicking ass and MAGA.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

Sift of the week!

Your "evidence" is a vid of a hypothetical story.

Dream a falsehood and it somehow becomes truth.

Sounds like CNN. Do you work for CNN?