President Carter on Trump, Russia, and the Election

Former President Jimmy Carter suggested that if Russian interference into the 2016 election was "fully investigated," it would show that President Donald Trump didn't win the presidency because "the Russians interfered on his behalf."
newtboysays...

Duh, Bob. Your insecurities and ignorance are showing.

If the Russians interfered, clearly in favor of Trump, it's impossible that Trump won fair and square. Jebus fucking Christ. Trump won fair and square by cheating the system with illegal help from our enemies.

Carter still has more intelligence, honesty, and civility in his little toe nail than Trump's entire nepotistic family. He's also in better physical shape, Trump would die trying to do 1/4 the work Carter does daily. You forget, he was a nuclear submarine commander/designer. Trump at his best has never come close to Carter at his worst.
Also, Carter has nearly single handedly eradicated the guinea worm...hardly the work of the feeble. Name a humanitarian project Trump has been involved in that he not used as a personal piggy bank. You can't.

They started investigating and found interference for one candidate's benifit, granted they should have made it as public as the Clinton investigation that found nothing but Comey refused to mention it, since they found massive interference on behalf of Trump, Obama sanctioned Russia. Trump calls that investigation a witch hunt and illegally told Russia he would remove the sanctions day one (violating the Logan act, his messenger was convicted of that)....and has now publicly invited Russia to help him again, offering them a presidential shield from investigation or repercussions.

Trump lost the election by over 3million votes, but barely won the electoral college with foreign help he begged for during the campaign repeatedly, and has requested again.

Trump, and by extension you, are bitter "winners"....bitter because your win is illegitimate, and you know it.

bobknight33said:

Important POV from a feeble old man.

Russians did interfere and Obama administration knew it and did nothing to stop it.

Trump won fair and square.

Bitter losers

BSRsays...

If I remember correctly, Obama couldn't get much done with the repubs blocking him every chance they could. In spite of that uphill battle, I think Obama did pretty well.

newtboysaid:

Duh, Bob. Your insecurities are showing.

Carter still has more intelligence, honesty, and civility in his little toe nail than Trump's entire nepotistic family. He's also in better physical shape, Trump would die trying to do 1/4 the work Carter does daily.

They started investigating and found interference for one candidate's benifit, granted they should have made it as public as the Clinton investigation that found nothing, since they found massive interference on behalf of Trump he sanctioned Russia. Trump calls that investigation a witch hunt and illegally told Russia he would remove the sanctions day one (his messenger was convicted of that)....and has now publicly invited Russia to help him again, offering them a presidential shield from investigation or repercussions.

Trump lost the election, but barely won the electoral college with foreign help he begged for during the campaign repeatedly, and has requested again.

Bitter winner. Just because your win is illegitimate, and you know it.

You are such a fool for Trump.

newtboysays...

Yes, including Republicans like Comey at the FBI who said it's improper to discuss ongoing investigations like the Trump/Russia investigation publicly, but it's fine to go after Clinton days before the election, even though there was zero crime there and zero new evidence found to imply there might have been.

The double standards are impossibly divergent.

BSRsaid:

If I remember correctly, Obama couldn't get much done with the repubs blocking him every chance they could. In spite of that uphill battle, I think Obama did pretty well.

bobknight33jokingly says...

President Carter was considered the worst POTUS in a century .

Russians interfered, clearly in favor of Trump-- no truth / proof to this.

Carter in better physical shape than Trump. Wow pushing clearly false narrative.. U schilling for the fake news?

Nuclear submarine commander/designer. -- Admirable
and Irreverent .

Name a humanitarian project Trump has been involved in ... Female anatomy inspector. Pay attention new you should know this. Did you miss the Access Hollywood tape?


Lighten up Newt.

newtboysaid:

Duh, Bob. Your insecurities and ignorance are showing.

If the Russians interfered, clearly in favor of Trump, it's impossible that Trump won fair and square. Jebus fucking Christ. Trump won fair and square by cheating the system with illegal help from our enemies.

Carter still has more intelligence, honesty, and civility in his little toe nail than Trump's entire nepotistic family. He's also in better physical shape, Trump would die trying to do 1/4 the work Carter does daily. You forget, he was a nuclear submarine commander/designer. Trump at his best has never come close to Carter at his worst.
Also, Carter has nearly single handedly eradicated the guinea worm...hardly the work of the feeble. Name a humanitarian project Trump has been involved in that he not used as a personal piggy bank. You can't.

They started investigating and found interference for one candidate's benifit, granted they should have made it as public as the Clinton investigation that found nothing but Comey refused to mention it, since they found massive interference on behalf of Trump, Obama sanctioned Russia. Trump calls that investigation a witch hunt and illegally told Russia he would remove the sanctions day one (violating the Logan act, his messenger was convicted of that)....and has now publicly invited Russia to help him again, offering them a presidential shield from investigation or repercussions.

Trump lost the election by over 3million votes, but barely won the electoral college with foreign help he begged for during the campaign repeatedly, and has requested again.

Trump, and by extension you, are bitter "winners"....bitter because your win is illegitimate, and you know it.

newtboysays...

Yes, considered that by partisan idiots who couldn't see past their hatred for anything left of Regan....they thought him a dumb country bumpkin too. To the rest of us, he was the last responsible president not interested in using the office for personal gain, one who kept us out of war with Iran, and was cheated out of a second term by the right wing/Regan Iran Contra scandal, which delayed the release of hostages to help Regan win the election.

Read. There's proof of 100 contacts between the campaign and Russia, and an undeniable estimation of their actions which were 100% aimed at electing Trump, because he would divide us even more than Clinton (which is a high bar, to be sure), and be weak on foreign policy.
Edit: for someone trying to deny the efficacy of Russian propaganda, you certainly repeat it a lot.

Look at him go, still building houses by hand. Trump can't walk from one hole to the next tee without getting winded, that's why he drives his cart onto the green.

Nuclear submarine designer....proof of extremely high level intelligence. Commander and tester of same, proof of high level of competence and service to the nation. President bone spurs can't compete in any way.

Wow, Bob. You can't do better? Even you say he's a pedophilic lech at best, and you can name not a single charity he's involved in you know isn't fraudulent? Sad.
That's what you come up with, a joke about his lack of character that's not even a joke because it's true, caught on tape? Sad you see him for the anti humanitarian, misogynistic, infidelity flaunting, charity fraud he is, and still stand with him and smirk. Pathetic Bob. Just pathetic.

bobknight33said:

President Carter was considered the worst POTUS in a century .

Russians interfered, clearly in favor of Trump-- no truth / proof to this.

Carter in better physical shape than Trump. Wow pushing clearly false narrative.. U schilling for the fake news?

Nuclear submarine commander/designer. -- Admirable
and Irreverent .

Name a humanitarian project Trump has been involved in ... Female anatomy inspector. Pay attention new you should know this. Did you miss the Access Hollywood tape?


Lighten up Newt.

luxintenebrissays...

President Carter was considered the worst POTUS in a century?

To quote recently said words, "Wow pushing (a) clearly false narrative."

Total squat. Hardin was President inside the 100-year span (1921-23) and is considered one of the worst POTUS in US history. Carter isn't ever considered the worst POTUS since WWII (inside any valid polling).

Such calumny displays far more bitterness than anything seen here.

For a 'winner', y'all are hard to keep happy.

BSRsays...

BAM! You nailed it Dude!

Trump has always believed that money BOUGHT him love. His father raised him that way. He loved his father so he followed his father's teachings.

Trump would lie, cheat and steal for money as long as it BROUGHT him love.

Now, many years later, Trump has gotten angrier and angrier. He wants something else but he doesn't know what it is. Over the course of his life, little by little, he has attracted many people that kissed his feet and his ass.

This pacified him for a while making him feel special, great, "loved."

But something was missing. Could it be people really loved his money and not him? If that's true then he has fallen into his own trap. He can't trust anyone other than himself. They will always walk past him to get his money.

Now he finds himself having to sell himself as a great, great man. The best! The one and only. Top shelf saviour!

Best used car salesman EVER!

But what about his followers? They love him. Not for his money but for his anger. His anger against those pussy dems and anyone else that doesn't know how to change brakes on a car or plow a field or throw sod or repair a roof or work real hard.

Trump might not make them richer but he can punish them there weak snowflakes. Make this country tough again! Make the world submit again! Make 'em all fear us again.

Make us destroy each other again until he gets the love and happiness everyone else talks and sings about. How can those peasants be so happy without money?

"V'ger is a child" -Spock

bobknight33said:

Name a humanitarian project Trump has been involved in ... Female anatomy inspector.

newtboysays...

What about me? I do all those things and more. I didn't just change my own brakes, I swapped my own motor. I don't just plow my field, I sow, weed, and harvest that field. I've not only repaired a roof, I've built a few. I know hard work, I was a one man desert racing crew. Now that's hard work, being mechanic, transporter, driver, and pit crew....all at 112 degrees.

So, why don't I love Trump? Because I'm a real conservative....ecologically conservative, fiscally conservative, fact based, socially liberal (the government has no place in my bedroom or my body), and insistent on honesty.

Republicans abandoned conservatism before I could vote.

THEY fear us now like one fears the 100lb ranting sore ridden meth head at the bus stop, not for our strength and resolve, but our dangerous unpredictability and diseases.

BSRsaid:

But what about his followers? They love him. Not for his money but for his anger. His anger against those pussy dems and anyone else that doesn't know how to change brakes on a car or plow a field or throw sod or repair a roof or work real hard.

Trump might not make them richer but he can punish them there weak snowflakes. Make this country tough again! Make the world submit again! Make 'em all fear us again.

BSRsays...

1)

The blacksmith and the artist
Reflect it in their art
They forge their creativity
Closer to the heart
Yes closer to the heart

Philosophers and plowmen
Each must know his part
To sow a new mentality
Closer to the heart
Yes closer to the heart, yeah, oh -Rush

2)

All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
It's really just a question
Of your honesty, yeah your honesty

One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity, yeah -Rush

You are as selfish with your love as Trump is with his money.
The difference is, you create love on demand. Trump can only lie, cheat and steal for his money. Trump doesn't love his followers. He loves their vote. Imagine how many votes he could get if he just changed his mind. His heart.

3)

What we don’t understand, we fear. What we fear, we judge as evil. What we judge as evil, we attempt to control. And what we cannot control…we attack. -source is proving elusive.

The bleeding hearts and artists make their stand. -Pink Floyd

EPILOGUE: Trump is outnumbered. We have his Trump card and he's pissed.


The Spirit Of Radio


newtboysaid:

1) What about me? I do all those things and more. I didn't just change my own brakes, I swapped my own motor. I don't just plow my field, I sow, weed, and harvest that field. I've not only repaired a roof, I've built a few. I know hard work, I was a one man desert racing crew. Now that's hard work, being mechanic, transporter, driver, and pit crew....all at 112 degrees.

2) So, why don't I love Trump? Because I'm a real conservative....ecologically conservative, fiscally conservative, fact based, socially liberal (the government has no place in my bedroom or my body), and insistent on honesty.

Republicans abandoned conservatism before I could vote.

3) THEY fear us now like one fears the 100lb ranting sore ridden meth head at the bus stop, not for our strength and resolve, but our dangerous unpredictability and diseases.

newtboysays...

Bullshit.
Love, like money, is earned by moral people. People do lie, cheat, and steal love too.

Again, bullshit. What I don't understand, I study. What I judge evil I judge evil, but it's because I do understand, not because I'm ignorant.
I don't control much, barely myself.
I only attack liars and harmful douchebags.

Your philosophy of 70's radio is failing you. I suggest another tactic, at least with me.

BSRsaid:

1)

The blacksmith and the artist
Reflect it in their art
They forge their creativity
Closer to the heart
Yes closer to the heart

Philosophers and plowmen
Each must know his part
To sow a new mentality
Closer to the heart
Yes closer to the heart, yeah, oh -Rush

2)

All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
It's really just a question
Of your honesty, yeah your honesty

One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity, yeah -Rush

You are as selfish with your love as Trump is with his money.
The difference is, you create love on demand. Trump can only lie, cheat and steal for his money. Trump doesn't love his followers. He loves their vote. Imagine how many votes he could get if he just changed his mind. His heart.

3)

What we don’t understand, we fear. What we fear, we judge as evil. What we judge as evil, we attempt to control. And what we cannot control…we attack. -source is proving elusive.

The bleeding hearts and artists make their stand. -Pink Floyd

EPILOGUE: Trump is outnumbered. We have his Trump card and he's pissed.


The Spirit Of Radio

BSRsays...

I stand my ground.

I understand what you say and why.

But I don't listen to your lies. I hear your heart.

It's breaking and there is nothing you can do about it.

The child is leaving you.

newtboysaid:

Bullshit.
Love, like money, is earned by moral people. People do lie, cheat, and steal love too.

Again, bullshit. What I don't understand, I study. What I judge evil I judge evil, but it's because I do understand, not because I'm ignorant.
I don't control much, I only attack liars and harmful douchebags.

Your philosophy of 70's radio is failing you. I suggest another tactic.

Mystic95Zsays...

Thats rich coming from someone who blindly supports the most feeble minded POTUS we've had in modern history... But not a surprising coming from a Trumpanzee.

bobknight33said:

Important POV from a feeble old man.

Russians did interfere and Obama administration knew it and did nothing to stop it.

Trump won fair and square.

Bitter losers

newtboysays...

Lol.
The interference of all the other countries...for Hillary?!
Name one. Include the propaganda they produced.

Jesusismypilotsaid:

I wonder how President Carter feels about the interference of all the other countries for Hillary. He's a smart guy, I guess we will just have to trust his math skills.

Jesusismypilotsays...

You mean like Vicente Fox going on every network against President Trump and for Hillary? The Steele Dossier? "China, if you’re listening, why don’t you get Trump’s tax returns?" - Hillary. Would be great to get that illegal server that somehow disappeared.

Not to mention ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, Comedy Central and all the newspapers... but that collusion doesn't count because it's not a foreign govt. Their influence is a-ok for you and President Carter.

newtboysays...

Lol.

Ex president and private citizen Vincente Fox?
Ex agent Christopher Steele working as a private citizen?
China, who didn't work with Clinton, even though she joked they might, mimicking instructions Trump gave Russia that they followed within hours?
American newspapers and networks, who have always, and legally, backed specific candidates?

Sorry, not one fits the bill. Try again.

Jesusismypilotsaid:

You mean like Vicente Fox going on every network against President Trump and for Hillary? The Steele Dossier? "China, if you’re listening, why don’t you get Trump’s tax returns?" - Hillary. Would be great to get that illegal server that somehow disappeared.

Not to mention ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, Comedy Central and all the newspapers... but that collusion doesn't count because it's not a foreign govt. Their influence is a-ok for you and President Carter.

Jesusismypilotsays...

I recognize there is no answer you would find satisfactory, your emotional bias precludes your ability to reason. You will continue to believe everything you are spoonfed from the left and will only be able to demonize the perceived "right" as monsters the can only win elections by cheating or the riling of the racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, etc. etc. base.

President Carter is our best ex-President but he is wrong about this and is showing poor form in making such comments. He had an opportunity to work to unify the nation but instead chose to further divide us. It's a shame.

BSRsays...

God@TheTweetOfGod

"Jesus died for your sins, but he didn't really die, so it doesn't really count.

See you in hell, suckers."

12:33 am . 07 Jul 19

Jesusismypilotsaid:

I recognize there is no answer you would find satisfactory, your emotional bias precludes your ability to reason. You will continue to believe everything you are spoonfed from the left and will only be able to demonize the perceived "right" as monsters the can only win elections by cheating or the riling of the racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, etc. etc. base.

President Carter is our best ex-President but he is wrong about this and is showing poor form in making such comments. He had an opportunity to work to unify the nation but instead chose to further divide us. It's a shame.

newtboysays...

True, because any honest answer wouldn't back your stance, and I don't find lies satisfactory.

You can't name a foreign country that illegally helped Clinton, yet you can't admit that you were making up accusations without evidence, so instead you offered a few individuals hoping we wouldn't notice they aren't countries? Then you claim you intentionally gave a b.s. answer because I wouldn't accept any answer? Who's emotionally biased in a way that precludes reason again?

Lol. With the great divider in office, you would complain that Carter is the bad guy because he didn't keep silent about Trump's illegitimacy? It is to laugh.

Jesusismypilotsaid:

I recognize there is no answer you would find satisfactory, your emotional bias precludes your ability to reason. You will continue to believe everything you are spoonfed from the left and will only be able to demonize the perceived "right" as monsters the can only win elections by cheating or the riling of the racist, xenophobic, misogynistic, etc. etc. base.

President Carter is our best ex-President but he is wrong about this and is showing poor form in making such comments. He had an opportunity to work to unify the nation but instead chose to further divide us. It's a shame.

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