That's just ... I'm out of words, actually. Imagine the Walmart employee had found vacation pictures taken at a nudist beach; you'd have Homeland Security smashing your door before breakfast.

so disgusting, all because of some stupid idiot who works in the photo department, I mean good for her for getting out of the court and finding some work but fuck her up the goat ass for being such a reject and causing so much damage over something so innocuous as baby bath pictures, EVERYONE has picture of them when they where kids in the bath, if u don't your parents might of been crack heads.. sorry to say.

hope this makes people think about the next time they want to bring pictures in of them taking a puff off of a " cannabis cigarette" or a bong or have anything like that in the picture. the person that is developing it DOES see the picture.... just a big FYI to think about.

What a piece of shit, officious, worthless, ignorant, et cetera.. woman that Walmart employee is.

This makes me so angry. Accusations like that stick to people for the rest of their lives.

Those children weren't abused until they were "checked" for molestation. I've been through that and it is invasive, demeaning and embarrassing. And a month with CPS.. that's awful. If my experience with CPS as a child is any indication, their time there surely wasn't fun or comfortable. There's no dignity to be had in a roomful of other kids with worse problems than you. And they ask you such terrible, leading questions trying to dig up and make up as much dirt as they can.. Truly a traumatizing experience.

What an awful person that employee is. I really hope that she realizes the scope of her overreaction and pays for it in some way.

It was certainly an over-reaction, but when you think about it, the wal-mart employee is not supposed to make an investigation, and if it had been someone other than the parents, it certainly would have been inappropriate. So the employee should turn them over if she suspects anything - what if it had actually been an abuse case and she kept quiet? She could have of course just asked when they got back to get the pictures, too, but that's not really her job.

The overreaction is more the CPS and police's fault, than the person that sent the pictures to the police.

^ Yeah cause pedos get their film developed at Walmart. The item mentioned how it was a few pics among dozens and dozens of other photos.

I mean christ allmighty gwiz by that logic the CPA should have a camera in everyones home recording HD footage of every child being bathed to make sure nothing innapropriate oh wait...

WTF is wrong with people? They ASSUME that just because a child is naked in a picture it must be sexual in nature? Wow, that's just absurd. How many photos do you need to get developed before they charge you with running a child-porn ring?

The employee developing the photos should have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to look at the pictures, period, and I trust she breached her contract with Walmart by violating the couple's privacy. This is another case of liberty vs. security and EXACTLY as clear-cut as the Patriot Act.

They should win the case against Walmart on the basis of Constitutional Law, and I sure hope this case sets precedent (although I'm certain there should've been one already).

>> ^EDD:
The employee developing the photos should have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to look at the pictures, period, and I trust she breached her contract with Walmart by violating the couple's privacy. This is another case of liberty vs. security and EXACTLY as clear-cut as the Patriot Act.
They should win the case against Walmart on the basis of Constitutional Law, and I sure hope this case sets precedent (although I'm certain there should've been one already).


Unfortunately, they have to look at the photos to see that they were developed properly. Rest assured that wherever you go to get your pictures developed, someone has looked at each and every one.

i hope that fucking sick childless bitch that turned those in gets eaten by dogs. whats next? or why don't we put women in jail right after childbirth because a baby was touching her vagina!

You know, I touch my boy's penis and scrotum every time I change him. I lift his balls up and wipe under them; I point his penis downward so he doesn't pee out of the side or top of his diaper.

He's also uncircumcised and when he's older, I'm going to show him how to pull his foreskin back and clean under and around it.

Someone really needs to report me to CPS.

Heh, good point.

My point was only that if it had indeed been something nefarious - pedos can be dumb on top of it - then wouldn't you have her report it? It's not like she let them loose to the hounds - the police and CPS/CPA should launch a reasonable investigation, if they suspect foul play. That they are completely overzealous and in the end hurt this family much more than they helped sucks hard, of course. I doubt I would have made the same judgment call as the person that called this in, but she's not the one that sent them through a years worth of agony, that was CPS.

I feel too many blame the person that reported it instead of those who actually did the family wrong. And that's not to say that this isn't a horrible situation.

>> ^acidSpine:
^ Yeah cause pedos get their film developed at Walmart. The item mentioned how it was a few pics among dozens and dozens of other photos.
I mean christ allmighty gwiz by that logic the CPA should have a camera in everyones home recording HD footage of every child being bathed to make sure nothing innapropriate oh wait...

>> ^UsesProzac:
I point his penis downward so he doesn't pee out of the side or top of his diaper.


I point mine downward too - I don't trust gravity to do its job.

Well, I guess this means I should turn in my mom for taking photos of me when I was laying down in my crib and my butt was exposed. Oh, AND for filming me playing in the bathtub.

Plus, I should turn in my boyfriend when he was forced to look at them when he met my mom for the first time.

This new society where EVERYTHING is suspicious and parents can't take some damn bath time pictures is outrageous.

I hate walmart and walmart employees. I didn't shop there already because of their business practices, and this just reinforces my stance.

>> ^UsesProzac:
He's also uncircumsized and when he's older, I'm going to show him how to pull his foreskin back and clean under and around it.


One traumatic childhood memory coming right up did you say? With all due respect to your parenting skills I thing boys spend enough time tooling with the tool to figure out how it works

Can we all just agree that the first mistake was putting one foot inside a walmart?

>> ^acidSpine:
>> ^UsesProzac:
He's also uncircumcised and when he's older, I'm going to show him how to pull his foreskin back and clean under and around it.

One traumatic childhood memory coming right up did you say? With all due respect to your parenting skills I thing boys spend enough time tooling with the tool to figure out how it works


I'm sure he'll play with it, but clean it? Knowing boys, that'll be the last thing on his mind when it comes to playing with his penis. Besides, a nurse advised us about the need to address cleaning his foreskin when he was older. I highly doubt it will be a trauma-inducing event!

"Once a child is old enough to bathe himself, he should be taught to retract the foreskin and wash underneath it to prevent old skin cells [Hehe.. they're talking about smegma.] from collecting. Staying clean is the main avenue to maintaining the health of the foreskin."

http://www.parenttime.com/babytips/careofuncircumcisedpenis.html

That reminds me of Lewis Black's demand for his own esteemed ball-washer, the only accessory a truly accomplished man needs.

Now to get the pictures out of my head again ... *narf*

This is such bullshit! Nothing like this happens in Europe! I'm sorry but cops there in Amerikkka are just MORONS! Oh wow, I guess I have to go to jail now because I have naked pictures of myself as a baby! God forbid I show the cute pictures to someone because apparently it's CP! Fucking idiots!

>> ^UsesProzac:
You know, I touch my boy's penis and scrotum every time I change him. I lift his balls up and wipe under them; I point his penis downward so he doesn't pee out of the side or top of his diaper.
He's also uncircumcised and when he's older, I'm going to show him how to pull his foreskin back and clean under and around it.
Someone really needs to report me to CPS.

He's 16 years old, cut the cord dammit!

This makes me want to shoot a roll of film with nothing but pictures of signs reading "I FUCKED THE WAL-MART PHOTO GUY'S MOM!"

>> ^KnivesOut:
Can we all just agree that the first mistake was putting one foot inside a walmart?


Hard to do, Walmart is so cheap they practically pay you to have your photos done there.

>> ^acidSpine:
>> ^UsesProzac:
He's also uncircumsized and when he's older, I'm going to show him how to pull his foreskin back and clean under and around it.

One traumatic childhood memory coming right up did you say? With all due respect to your parenting skills I thing boys spend enough time tooling with the tool to figure out how it works


dude ive been with adult men who dont even know how to wash their circumcised dick...so props to the informative mothers

Look at the big strong State locking up those evil parents for doing what every parent does. And how wonderful of the CPS bureaucracy to even give the little girls a medical exam to ensure no sexual abuse... that means doctors had to touch their daughters' vaginas, people.

These parents could've lost their kids. It's atrocious.

Yes - the Wmart employee was a stupid idiot for reporting this. But the primary blame lies with CPS for taking it and running with it.

Every time I've ever interacted with people from CPS, they have struck me as self-important busybodies who automatically assume everyone is guilty of being a pedo for no other reason than to feel like they are earning their paycheck. Either that or they are paranoid and prosecute every case to the fullest extent possible just as a matter of covering their own butts if things turn out badly.

The second this stupid woman went to CPS, the person on the phone should have simply said, "Are the photos purient? No? Then quit being stupid and go back to stuffing photos in envelopes, because you're clearly not qualified to do anything else."

And every person in the Arizona CPS office should be fired.

America, where being naked is a crime...

God I love my country and the idiots that live in it.

I'm really hoping H1N1 cleans us up a bit this winter...

>> ^yourhydra
dude ive been with adult men who dont even know how to wash their circumcised dick...so props to the informative mothers


Dude, you have serious issues. You think there is a "know how" involved. Pretty much the instructions are soap & water. You don't deserve to go anywhere near a penis if you think there is some method involving a circumcised penis.

I love how angry some of you became after watching this story. Your vitriol is laughable.

The parents should not have developed pictures of naked kids at Wal-Mart, because the type of person who works at Wal-Mart will think they're pornographic.

That's all.

Seems like both the Walmart employee and the officers projected their own sexually perverted perspectives onto this situation. If you look at pictures of kids innocently playing in the bathtub, in the nude (not naked; that implies a sense of defenselessness) and think that is wrong, then you really need to consider what sort of mindset your own thoughts originate from.

It's usually the case that the only people who think this kinda stuff is child abuse/pornography are the ones who are aroused by it.

I feel terribly sorry that the parents had to go through this, not to mention the kids. I'm just glad they weren't old enough to fully grasp what was going on. Shame on both the employee and the officers for going through with this. This is a sign of the times, no doubt. People watch too much TV and think that Mr. RapeYourChildren is lurking around every corner.

I wanted to beat my head against a wall when I first heard about this story.

http://pbfcomics.com/?cid=PBF215-Kitty_Photographer.jpg

I guess its not so funny anymore when life imitates fiction.

I managed a photo lab for a year once. You do need to look at every picture to tune the color/contrast. I once got a very graphic pic of a 7 yr old girl spread eagle on a couch sun dress no panties. I could have panicked, but looking at the other photos, (basic family function shots), it appeared the kids got a hold of the camera and were playing and this pic got accidentally taken. I kept quiet, showed the pic to the Dad when he came in and watched him turned white as a sheet.

That was the end of it. I broke the law and defied company policy but damn glad I did. Just mentioning this even to mall security could have destroyed a family.

Level heads peeps. No one can follow the letter of the law and have justice at the same time. It's like trying to follow the new testament as written.

I'm mostly on the side with the majority of you. Still, we don't know the whole story, and that may or may not make the difference. We haven't seen the photos, and I don't want to, I'm just saying... we're basing our opinions solely on what the parents are saying and how sane and normal they appear.

I employ a series of machines otherwise known as the Rube Golddick, which makes it nice and shiny in only a matter of 68 minutes. Of course, I'm not circumcised, so that's a factor too.

>> ^joedirt:
>> ^yourhydra
dude ive been with adult men who dont even know how to wash their circumcised dick...so props to the informative mothers

Dude, you have serious issues. You think there is a "know how" involved. Pretty much the instructions are soap & water. You don't deserve to go anywhere near a penis if you think there is some method involving a circumcised penis.

>> ^EDD:
The employee developing the photos should have NO RIGHT WHATSOEVER to look at the pictures, period, and I trust she breached her contract with Walmart by violating the couple's privacy. This is another case of liberty vs. security and EXACTLY as clear-cut as the Patriot Act.
They should win the case against Walmart on the basis of Constitutional Law, and I sure hope this case sets precedent (although I'm certain there should've been one already).

While this doesn't apply directly to walmart, I'll share an experience I had. I live up in Canada, as some people know. So, back in the late 90's at the time of the PC boom, I was doing a stint working for a company that did PC repair. A high and glamorous job of course. Guy comes in, says "I can't print/see pictures on my PC." PC we sold, figure alright--we'll take a look at what we can do. The guy was using imgview like most people at the time, so fire it up and what the hell do I find but kiddy porn.

Once you've seen stuff like that, it's never unseen. It's been more than 12 years and I can still see those images in my head. I ended up talking to our local detachment, had a cop come by, showed them, they went out got a warrant, and took the machine with them. The guy? Long stretch in federal prison.

Now that my cranky little story is out of the way, let me say this. I'm not a "think of the children" kind of guy. I hate the term, I hate what it's done to society, and I hate that people refuse to think. The real questions in all of this I would be asking are:

What are the state laws of AZ? What are the requirements for reporting kiddie porn/instances of perceived abuse?

What is required of the state? Is it a "you must, you shall, you will" type of scenario laid out in law, which requires the police and CPS/CPA to be direct agents? If so, than the law is flawed, or the interpretation is screwed up. Ontario has something similar to this regarding domestic violence(you must, you shall, you will file charges--and you can, shall, will take a child into custody in various circumstances).

Yeah. Just watch where you place blame, sometimes people enforcing the laws don't have any choice but to enforce the laws because they're required to. However with this person, did they think? Can I hop in their head? Nope. Can you or anyone else in this thread? Nope. Seriously, there's a whole pile of stuff more to this than what most people know, and what actually goes on behind the scenes.

You have to keep in mind that the photos in question are ones not shown because they're afraid they'd be prosecuted. We all seem to be taking the family and their lawyer's word for it that the photos were innocent. But a handful of people who saw it, ones not interviewed, disagreed.

It seems entirely plausible that the photos truly were innocent, and some people got the wrong idea and overreacted. If that's true it is horrible how the parents were treated. But my point is, none of us are actually in a position to judge.

Mall-wart is rarely on the right side of any issue that benefits the communities they exist in. Sucking money out of the areas where their stores are, paying their employees the lowest allowable by law, and pushing slave labour conditions on the production line.
So with this business model it doesn't surprise me that stupid mistakes are made. Having the vast proportion of your workers living on more than one third less than a living wage and below the poverty line. Depending on labour turnover to stabalize low wages.

Wilhelm Reich called it the Emotional Plague.

>> ^KnivesOut:
Can we all just agree that the first mistake was putting one foot inside a walmart?


I'm going to make this t-shirt. Right ON. A+

I clicked this thinking this was gonna be an Onion News clip... close enough.

Woah wtf, that's crazy, they were using a digital camera and took it to walmart to get printed? Why the hell does anyone have to look at photos getting printed from your memory stick?

While this entire incident went horribly wrong, there doesn't seem to have been any choice in the matter from any of the parties involved...

- The Walmart dumbass saw what could be child pornography, and either he or his supervisor didn't want the responsibility of a headline stating "Walmart knew this was happening and did nothing".
- The police had a case brought to them with suspected child pornography, which automatically suggests possible abuse, and contacted CPS while the case was being investigated.
- CPS, once involved, had no choice but to investigate the matter, which meant removing the children from the custody of the parents for the duration of the investigation and examining the children to find out if there was any abuse going on.
- The school can't, and shouldn't permit a suspect in an ongoing investigation related to both sexual abuse and children to continue to work in close proximity to other children. Once they find out, they're liable in the event that something else happens afterwards.

All of this could have been avoided with a little use of common sense from the Walmart employee. But Walmart doesn't train employees, it trains Cogs, and this one functioned perfectly to protect the interests of the Walmart Machine.

As far as I'm concerned, the lesson in this case was summed up by KnivesOut.

>> ^KnivesOut:
Can we all just agree that the first mistake was putting one foot inside a walmart?

fuck walmart.

>> ^demon_ix:



Wait, did you just blame WalMart for this because they didn't train the employees (cogs) appropriately how to spot child pornography? That's a highly elitist remark to not accept individuals as smart enough to do that themselves. That, and honestly the busybody bureaucracies, in my opinion, are the ones truly to blame.

Look, I'm as suspicious of Corporations as the next guy, but Walmart isn't the problem in this video. Walmart didn't physically take the kids away from the parents, then have strangers give them sex tests. Walmart didn't put the parents on a sex offender watchlist and deny them access to their kids. That would be your beloved government that did that.

Aren't they going to charge the WalMart employee for looking at child porn then too? That's also illegal. This whole situation is a catch 22 in the land of the "free". Welcome to Amerika.

>> ^UsesProzac:
>> ^acidSpine:
>> ^UsesProzac:
He's also uncircumcised and when he's older, I'm going to show him how to pull his foreskin back and clean under and around it.

One traumatic childhood memory coming right up did you say? With all due respect to your parenting skills I thing boys spend enough time tooling with the tool to figure out how it works

I'm sure he'll play with it, but clean it? Knowing boys, that'll be the last thing on his mind when it comes to playing with his penis. Besides, a nurse advised us about the need to address cleaning his foreskin when he was older. I highly doubt it will be a trauma-inducing event!
"Once a child is old enough to bathe himself, he should be taught to retract the foreskin and wash underneath it to prevent old skin cells [Hehe.. they're talking about smegma.] from collecting. Staying clean is the main avenue to maintaining the health of the foreskin."
http://www.parenttime.com/babytips/careofuncircumcisedpenis.html


At the risk of quadruple quoting a large post... I can guarantee... 100% of males, when they shower, wash their shlong, and wash their pits... hair is not a guarantee and anything else is icing.

But wash their junk... yeah, it will happen.

>> ^blankfist:
Wait, did you just blame WalMart for this because they didn't train the employees (cogs) appropriately how to spot child pornography? That's a highly elitist remark to not accept individuals as smart enough to do that themselves. That, and honestly the busybody bureaucracies, in my opinion, are the ones truly to blame.
Look, I'm as suspicious of Corporations as the next guy, but Walmart isn't the problem in this video. Walmart didn't physically take the kids away from the parents, then have strangers give them sex tests. Walmart didn't put the parents on a sex offender watchlist and deny them access to their kids. That would be your beloved government that did that.


My point was, that once the determination was made by the Walmart employee(s) who saw the photos, everything was in the hands of, as you say, the system. That system seems to be built to exercise maximum caution in this situation. Once the police was notified, they had no choice but to investigate, and once CPS was notified, they moved immediately to place the children in a relatively protected environment (I have no illusions about what being in CPS custody means) and at some point, someone had to find out if there was any actual sexual abuse going on.

To me, this situation is a lot like an innocent man being charged with murder. It's unjust that he spends even one second in jail until his trial, but the trial is where he will be proven innocent (again, no illusions about that either, but in theory).

The only place in this chain where there was any place for a personal opinion was at the Walmart employee(s), and I believe that in a company the size of Walmart, there has to be a corporate policy in place regarding such photos.

Strangers had to put things in those little girls' vaginas. No amount of government "protection" is worth that, IMO.

This is where a good arts program in public school could improve society. If everyone went through life drawing at a young age, more people would understand that nude doesn't equal sexual. A body is a body, a nude body is just a nude body. Its the viewer that injects filth into pictures of children (or hell even adults) doing innocent/non-sexual things in the nude.

I just reported my mom.

>> ^Creature:
This is where a good arts program in public school could improve society. If everyone went through life drawing at a young age, more people would understand that nude doesn't equal sexual. A body is a body, a nude body is just a nude body. Its the viewer that injects filth into pictures of children (or hell even adults) doing innocent/non-sexual things in the nude.


This image sort of makes your point, imo

^My god, those dolphins are grabbing that lady's boobs! Someone do something!

I just reported your mom.

*swish*

>> ^lampishthing:
I just reported my mom.

>> ^gwiz665:
>> ^UsesProzac:
I point his penis downward so he doesn't pee out of the side or top of his diaper.

I point mine downward too - I don't trust gravity to do its job.


No matter how old you are or what way you point it, the last drop always goes in your shorts.

^You gotta dab.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
It's amusing that this takes place in Peoria, which is a metaphor of uncultured ba>> ^gwiz665:
>> ^UsesProzac:
I point his penis downward so he doesn't pee out of the side or top of his diaper.

I point mine downward too - I don't trust gravity to do its job.

No matter how old you are or what way you point it, the last drop always goes in your shorts.


'No matter how much you dance or prance, the last few drops land in your pants'

I was just reading a DAE on reddit about this: http://www.reddit.com/r/DoesAnybodyElse/comments/9mpyn/dae_experience_the_wet_penny_in_the_pocket_problem/

*sexuality *kids *dark

Adding video to channels (Dark, Kids, Sexuality) - requested by calvados.

I thought Child Protective Services were supposed to PROTECT kids, not harm them by unnecessarily removing them from loving caring parents!

I'm glad I don't live in the U.S., as clearly there is NOBODY I could call if a child was ACTUALLY being abused, since Child Protective Services must be run by a bunch of child molesters if they think innocent photos of kids are harmful. Conversely, in the unlikely event that that is not the case and that rather Child Protective Services are justs paranoid morons, I'd be worried about reporting suspected abuse in case I was wrong and Child Protective Services wrecked someone else's life.

And although I'm not going to read all the comments, did some complete idiot actually suggest teaching a kid how to clean a penis is abusive? Most kids in most countries get taught that because unlike the USa, most of the world doesn't routinely mutilate their little boys, so most boys are intact. Boys and girls don't just figure out how to clean themselves on their own - parents teach them. It's part of their job. They're not going to be traumatised. Kids don't just figure out everything on their own.

In your country parents even get vile spouted at them for giving their kids a peck on the lips. I'm so glad I live in the land of hope and glory (England). The REAL land of the free (our current government ripped up some of the last government's attacks on freedoms).

*dead

This video has been declared non-functional; embed code must be fixed within 2 days or it will be sent to the dead pool - declared dead by longde.

*notdead, might be blocked for you @longde?

This dead video has been deemed functional; it must have been accidentally declared dead - declared notdead by gwiz665.

Hmmm...it's working normally now. Not sure what happened.>> ^gwiz665:

notdead, might be blocked for you @longde?