Dead. On.

I agree with Detheter. This piece is very much 'Dead On". I recently heard some people complaining about the 'horrible canadian system'. Frankly, if Canadians hated their health care system, why are they not complaining that they want an 'American Styled' health care?

The Commonwealth of Massachusetts (there are 3 other commonwealths in the USA, VA, PA, and NY), has Mass Health. This was set up a few years ago, to cover all Mass residents. In fact, its about 2-3% of total residents that do not have Mass Health or some other health care coverage (its the law!). The cost to cover all 97-98% of Mass residents for 2010: $88 million. The Mass Budget for 2010 is $27 BILLION. That's right boys and girls, MA residents are only paying 1/3 of 1% of next year's total budget on health care. The system has its fair share of problems that have to be worked out. But its there, to cover those residents who the health care companies deny for a mired of reasons.

The signers of the Mass Health: then Govenor Mitt Romey (R), Sen. Ted Kennedy (D), Sen. John Kerry (D). They pushed Mass Health through, because they didnt have to worry about the liars and fear mongers from the Republican party (Mr. Rommey was trying to look good before the public for his run on the presidenticy....which he failed).

Seriouslly, the sort of crap I hear out of Republicans on this subject is astonishing and deeply sadding. There lacks alot of wisdom on thier part. No ability to have compassion for the sick, the eldarly, and the young. Unless, they stand to garner money from the cause at the same time. Funny that, these guys will keep (and fail) Health care from you and me, but are on goverment health insurance right now is a bit of hypnocrisy. But then, Republican Party = Hypocrites.

I am Canadian. I'm very much proud that our system is such a wonderful adventure in national society. Where citizens on one half of the nation, give of their efforts, so that the least fortunate of us on the other half, need not suffer and die, but flourish and strive for health. We know that we are helping people. That is why when I pay into our health system, not only is it paying for my health care, whenever I may need it in the future, but I also know that friends and family that I have all over my huge, beautiful, and vibrant country, have no need to fear about those things. If you go to a hospital in Canada, you are seen, and treated. Our system is not perfect, but noone is dying due to lack of access to the system. Everyone has access. How hard is that to understand? How can you turn away fellow humans at the door? Why is paper money worth more than human life?

No, I see these videos, the hate in the speakers, the hate in the words. What is it? Is it the utter condemnation of equality? The loudly spoken statement that some are better and more deserving than others? This is 2009. Grow up.

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>> ^Nithern:
The Commonwealth of Massachusetts (there are 3 other commonwealths in the USA, VA, PA, and NY)


New York is a State, the fourth commonwealth is Kentucky: Wikipedia Article

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"No major political battle can be won without strong, decisive leadership at the top political level making the message clear and the argument solid as to why their citizenry should support it."

Did you hear that, Obama? Stop pussyfooting about the public option. Just push it through via reconciliation. The Republicans don't want to help; they want just want to kill it outright. You campaigned with the slogan "Change." Well now is your chance.

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86% of Canadians rate their health care system as "high" and are extremely satisfied with it. The other 14% simply don't know just how good they have it.

I've said it before, I'll said it again. The current version of America's healthcare plan is 100% screwed up, too much government overhead in the wrong area, with the wrong people looking after it. It should never, ever be a "federal" program with that much overhead.

This is Canada's Health Act, at the Federal level. Nothing huge, nothing fancy, nothing showy. Simply states that all Canadians get it, and it's upto the province(s) and territories to fund it, and if they can't fund all of it, then the money comes from the general revenue fund, and how that money is paid out, and the terms for it.

Until that monstrosity of a bill dies, and you get something reasonable. It will continue to fail, because the US like Canada are built on the same system of power sharing. Weak federal, strong state/provincial governments.

http://media8.dropshots.com/photos/256336/20090827/094430.jpg

Yawn. A video of baised people giving thier biased opinions. This is supposed to be convincing in what way, exactly? This is one in a long line of slanted advocacy pieces that cherry-picks its facts and ignores the negatives.

86% of Canadians are satisfied, eh? So? Is that supposed to impress me? Americans are pretty satisfied with thier coverage too... The following numbers are not those of a system that is 'awful'...

http://www.americanhealthsolution.org/fact-check-americans-are-satisfied-with-their-health-plans-2/

Gee. 84%... 88%... Right up there with Canada it seems to me. Pretty strange if our health care system is 'sooooooooo' bad.

Fact is that American medical care isn't bad. It's great. There's no need to completely change our system to mirror the systems of Canada or the UK. Are there issues? Sure. But as always, it is NOT the government's role to participate in this. Saying that the US 'must' have a public system is a lie. Public systems are not necessary, and they are not improvements.

^ Those surveys are of people who are fully covered! Great for them! What about everybody else?

I can't hold it in any longer. You, Winstonfiled_Pennypacker(P), make me sick. You are a closed minded, short sighted, cold hearted piece of human filth.

You want to keep the system the way it is because it benefits you, and everybody who doesn't get a great healthcare package through their employer can just suck it. You selfish prick. You can look at the millions of people who recently got laid off and say, "Fuck you, get a job."

I would be happy to pay more taxes so that everybody could get regular check ups instead of waiting too long and ending up in an emergency room. I would be happy to pay more so that people couldn't get dropped from their insurance when they are diagnosed with terminal illness. I would be happy to pay more so that we could re-open all the trauma centers that were shut down after being overwhelmed by illegals and the unemployed who can't afford to pay. I would be happy to pay more so that serious illness wouldn't continue to be the leading cause of bankruptcies in the US.

But if we look at all the empirical evidence from around the world, we could have universal coverage that would actually cost less, and you STILL would oppose it. Because you fear change, and you have no compassion for anybody but yourself.

Why is that I, a self-proclaimed atheist, care more about my fellow citizens than the right wing religious crackpots, who have a mandate from their lord and savior to be compassionate to all?

If they really had any sense of compassion rather than selfishness, they would be working with the Democrats to shape a healthcare system that benefits everybody. Instead, all we hear is NO NO NO - SOCIALISM BAD SCARY!!! Ok, Mr Pennypacker, if a public system is not necessary, then point to a country that has universal healthcare without a public system. I'm pretty sure that doesn't exist, because it would be the very first argument from every Republican right now, and I've never heard it. All I hear is FEAR FEAR FEAR!!!

Why is it that the US is the only industrialized country without universal healthcare? Because we are the only country being roadblocked by politicians owned by the healthcare industry and the idiots who believe their lies. Socialist systems are so bad, because Canadians love theirs, and we hate Canadians, right? We hate them Brits, who wouldn't touch the US system with a ten meter cattle prod. Talk to anybody from any country who has universal healthcare about how great the US system is and they will MOCK you. And rightfully so, because you are either a fool or a heartless selfish bastard. And I don't think you're a fool.

The simple fact is this: If the US had the best healthcare system, other countries would be copying us. That is clearly not the case, so... and I know this is the part you fear the most... maybe we should be copying them. Nobody is saying they are perfect, but they are a hell of a lot closer than we are, and it is the height of pig-headed arrogance not to try to learn from them.

Actually it is the governments role to provide health care. It's the government's role to provide military defense services, fire protection services, police services, educational services and health services. These are all tied up with those life, liberty and pursuit of happiness things. For any of these if you rely on private enterprise to provide the service then inevitably a significant portion of the population goes unprotected.

88% of Americans are happy with their health care plans ... my ass! That's 88% of Americans who actually have health care plans. The major point of your current debate is how to get good health care to those who have none.

Since you like statistics try these
http://media.npr.org/programs/tmm/webdocs/american_journal_of_medicine-medical_bankruptcy.pdf

"Using a conservative definition, 62.1% of all bankruptcies in 2007 were medical; 92% of these medical debtors had medical debts over $5000, or 10% of pretax family income. The rest met criteria for medical bankruptcy because they had lost significant income due to illness or mortgaged a home to pay medical bills. Most medical debtors were well educated, owned homes, and had middle-class occupations. Three quarters had health insurance. Using identical definitions in 2001 and 2007, the share of bankruptcies attributable to medical problems rose by 49.6%."

Number of bankruptcies in Canada in 2007 caused by medical bills? Effectively zero.

Medicare for all. Ted Kennedy's dream.

Make it happen. Call it the Ted Kennedy bill.

>> ^brycewi19:
Medicare for all. Ted Kennedy's dream.
Make it happen. Call it the Ted Kennedy bill.


oooh, that'd be a dirty trick.

Shortly after his death, they name the bill the Teddy Kennedy bill. People who don't vote for it are branded as soul-less inhumane bastards.

I love it.

>> ^brycewi19:
Medicare for all. Ted Kennedy's dream.
Make it happen. Call it the Ted Kennedy bill.


Thats pretty clever

Better still, don't give the bill Kennedy's name, call the "public option" the Kennedy Plan.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
Did you hear that, Obama? Stop pussyfooting about the public option. Just push it through via reconciliation. The Republicans don't want to help; they want just want to kill it outright. You campaigned with the slogan "Change." Well now is your chance.

Yeah good plan. Push through a bill that's a steaming pile of shit and isn't the best for the American people. And before someone says "but what's your idea for a bill..." I've posted it several times. Take CHA, modify to fit US, dance a few songs. Be happy. But no you think you need to have a 1200sec. bill that oozes BS all over it instead of something that can do all the work and be under 25 sections in plain English.

Let me repeat myself for the sake of repeating, you can want something that's in the best interests of all your citizens. But you'd better do it properly the first time. Luckily the US has other nations, and other countries(hint hint) who are built on a similar architecture(hint Canada hint) of power sharing, with federal power. If it's so unwieldly that the average citizen can't understand it, than the bill is absolutely useless.

That's what you have now, that's what's wrong. That's why it shouldn't pass. That's why it should be simple, easy to understand, and be left to each individual state.

>> ^brycewi19:
Medicare for all. Ted Kennedy's dream.
Make it happen. Call it the Ted Kennedy bill.


Please don't. This probably isn't a popular opinion, as I undetstand he is well liked in the USA, but I'd rather not celebrate his terrorist sympathising (IRA).

^ Those surveys are of people who are fully covered! Great for them! What about everybody else?

You don’t get those numbers if the population isn’t right along with it. But – for your edification…

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-10-15-health-poll1.htm

There you go. Poll conducted by Keiser, USA Today, and ABC (no conservatives here) which says that 70% of the UNINSURED are satisfied with their health care. Total population is 88% satisfied. That's as high or higher than the satisfaction rates of people participating in public systems...

You, Winstonfiled_Pennypacker(P), make me sick… closed minded, short sighted, cold hearted piece of human filth, selfish prick, no compassion for anybody but yourself, fear change, fool, selfish bastard...

Its tolerant, patient, open-minded perspectives such as yours that make the neolib movement what it is today. Its always nice to meet folks so accepting of other ideas and points of view. Shine on you crazy diamond.

I would be happy to pay… I would be happy to pay… I would be happy to pay…

Then do so. No one is stopping you. Volunteer at your community clinic. Donate money to your local health care providers. Or if you find that unacceptable, there are forms you can fill out to donate as much as you want to the Federal government so they can spend your money for you. That's the great thing about the conservative approach. You are free to do whatever you want with your time, money, and talent.

The neolib problem is that when they say “I would be happy to pay” they don’t really mean it. They really mean that they want government to pay so they don't have to volunteer time or money. They also mean that they want government to make everyone else do the same thing. But just because there are people that need help does NOT mean that there needs to be a federal program in place to help them. Federal solutions are slow, inefficient, ineffective, indirect, and far more expensive than private alternatives.

But if we look at all the empirical evidence from around the world, we could have universal coverage that would actually cost less, and you STILL would oppose it.

1. No one has supplied any evidence that public health care would be cheaper – in fact the Democrat CBO proved that it won’t save a penny. 2. I oppose it not from fear, but from principle. Government intrusion into private freedom is unnecessary for the reasons I listed above – but more importantly they represent a reduction in human freedom. I will oppose that every time I can because freedom is far more precious and rare than health care.

Why is it that the US is the only industrialized country without universal healthcare?

What a crock. Almost everyone in the USA is a Christian. Does that mean you should be one too? This 'we should do it because they're doing it' mentality is total baloney, and it really is hard to believe it's coming out of the mouth of a self-avowed atheist 'free thinker'. Let's just say I reject this argument for the logical fallacy it is and leave it at that. I will never accept the premise that America should use socialism & fascist methodologies just because other countries do. What a stupid suggestion.

WindstonField is unreasonable.

I have health insurance and I can't stand it. I don't know where those numbers come from but they are not accurate. People in this country do not like their health insurance. I have 80/20 coverage and I'm supposed to be impressed with that? Anyone who has had a kid in this country should know that it doesn't matter if you have coverage or not your still going to get raped by the insurance bills. It just won't be as bad as if you didnt have coverage.

We're are already paying money for insurance. I don't know what your real complaint about this is other than being indifferent.This is such a non-issue for people to be making it one.

WindstonField is unreasonable. I don't know where those numbers come from but they are not accurate.

Unreasonable? Based on what? That I have a different opinion than you? That I can reasonably and calmly discuss the benefits of private markets over socialism? The fact that I can find holes, flaws, and errors in opposing arguments? What specifically is it that you find 'unreasonable' in my demeanor, text, and discourse?

As far as the numbers I cited go - I gave you the link. It's right there. Random sample, 1200 people, +/-3% MOE. I do stats for a living. The survey instrument looks pretty clean.

You personally may not like your plan, but your evidence is anecdotal. The survey results prove conclusively that your dissatisfaction is in the minority. That doesn't mean people don't have things they don't like. It just means that overall they are happy with their health care. End of story. Rail against reality all you want, but the truth is the truth.

Why do you think Obama's health care plan is faring so poorly with the public? Pretty much this poll tells the story. He's trying convince the 88% of the population that is fine with things as they are that they MUST throw the dice on his undefined, largely imaginary, government boondoggle 'plan' in a time when people are far more concerned about unprecedented government deficits. Deficits that his 'plan' would quadruple down on - I may add...

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
WindstonField is unreasonable. I don't know where those numbers come from but they are not accurate.
Unreasonable? Based on what? That I have a different opinion than you? That I can reasonably and calmly discuss the benefits of private markets over socialism? The fact that I can find holes, flaws, and errors in opposing arguments? What specifically is it that you find 'unreasonable' in my demeanor, text, and discourse?
As far as the numbers I cited go - I gave you the link. It's right there. Random sample, 1200 people, +/-3% MOE. I do stats for a living. The survey instrument looks pretty clean.
You personally may not like your plan, but your evidence is anecdotal. The survey results prove conclusively that your dissatisfaction is in the minority. That doesn't mean people don't have things they don't like. It just means that overall they are happy with their health care. End of story. Rail against reality all you want, but the truth is the truth.
Why do you think Obama's health care plan is faring so poorly with the public? Pretty much this poll tells the story. He's trying convince the 88% of the population that is fine with things as they are that they MUST throw the dice on his undefined, largely imaginary, government boondoggle 'plan' in a time when people are far more concerned about unprecedented government deficits. Deficits that his 'plan' would quadruple down on - I may add...


Get fucked, idiot.

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oh, and nice poll from 2006. Before the recession. Asking an American about health care is a useless enterprise anyways. Do you know why we have not had this kind of useless conflict and argument in our country in our modern history? It's because we tend to marginalize people who would use freedom as an argument against common sense.

I have to apologize to everyone for losing my cool earlier. That rarely happens to me, but stubborn ignorance is one of my triggers, and this debate about healthcare seems to be nothing but stubborn ignorance from beginning to end.

So, Winstonfield_Pennypacker (P). You don't want to risk this wonderful system we have on something that is unproven and untested. I understand that. But the problem is people on your side of the argument are so vocal and unyielding that programs that are proven and tested (i.e. a single payer plan) are not even in the realm of consideration. We are being forced to "roll the dice" because people like you are so terrified of the eeeevil programs that work so well in other countries.

So you don't want to have to pay for other people's healthcare. Well I'm a little bit tired of paying for other people's wars. Would you support a plan to privatize the military? After all, it's a massive portion of the federal budget, and wasteful? Don't get me started! Why should you and I be paying for all that waste?

Then if you wanted to support your local militia, you could donate your money, or volunteer your time! I love this plan of yours! " That's the great thing about the conservative approach. You are free to do whatever you want with your time, money, and talent. "

So you don't have to pay for my healthcare, and I don't have to pay for your military. Sound like a deal?

Actually, it sounds like a 3rd world country. The only places where they don't have universal healthcare.

programs that are proven and tested (i.e. a single payer plan) are not even in the realm of consideration. We are being forced to "roll the dice" because people like you are so terrified of the eeeevil programs that work so well in other countries

Well, I'll dicker a bit over your terminology here which is clearly somewhat biased. Public systems do not 'work so well'. At best, they are a 6-of-1, half-dozen of the other give and take of positives and negatives. Public systems are not clearly superior in providing care that is either cheaper, better, or broader. Why bother?

military...

Defense is the one duty that the Federal government has which is prescribed by the US Constitution. I don't have a problem with public funds going to defense because that's the only role the federal government really has any business being involved in. The difference between defense spending and entitlement spending is that one is constitutionally mandated, and the other is not.

3rd world country

You mean like Cuba, which has public health care?

Might I remind you that in the US Constitution's preamble, right after "provide for the common defence" comes "promote the general Welfare". According to usconstitution.net, Welfare in this context means "health, happiness, or prosperity; well-being".

Of course the military provisions of the Constitution are much better spelled out, but that's because the founders were attempting to limit the misuse of the military. There isn't such a historical concern about the misuse of promoting health, happiness, or prosperity.

So yes, there is a mandate in the US Constitution, right in the first line, that the government should take as part of its role the promotion of the health of the people.

And *again*, we can argue about which country gets better healthcare, but it is clear that other countries have managed to cover *everyone*, which is my primary concern, and the ENTIRE REASON FOR THIS DEBATE. So please stop ignoring that.

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I support a magical prayer based health care plan. Prayer works better than science for curing the sick. Just ask Jesus. Oh wait. He's dead. Well... if magic from the creator of the universe can't save Jesus' ass from the cross, then what the fuck. We should just all kill each other now and get it over with.. then we can all be happy and live in heaven together in peace. I hear they have the most amazing socialized programs in heaven. Heck.. all your food, housing, entertainment is flat free and provided by the big man in the sky himself!

It is quite simple the solution to the so-called "issue" of health care in the United States. The subject needs little or no banter representative of what can be seen *above, from people who sit at their computers after having ingested newscast, after article, after explanations and solutions by politicians and so-called "experts", who then satisfy themselves that they have a clear picture of how and why the system is in the state that it is.

The country is replete with wind-baggers (see most of the comments above in the "it will be so much better to create a PLAN category) who think they have a clue as to how and why it has reached such a pathetic, critical mass. Watch and read how they take what is promulgated by media and pundits, process the "dis-information" with their tainted apparatus, convinced that one action or the other will create some alternative to the insane state of affairs with regard to the MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT.

The solution??

Teach people about a healthy way of being. Teach them from infancy, and most importantly, provide them with the raw materials (i.e., diets that are not full of poisons in the form of preservatives, sugars, etc etc), right down to pesticides or whatever one's pet cause for health is. Deny the manufacturers and purveyors of poisons disguised as foods the ability to create human sewage bins, otherwise known as MOST AMERICANS.

-Hobble the fast-food corporations whose criminal intent is akin to manslaughter.
Encourage a collective boycott of all processed, nutrition-less crap by giving people who don't eat the garbage, free health care. None of this can be done without retraining the ignorant masses-THIS INCLUDES PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT WE NEED HEALTH CARE REFORM.

Retrain ignoramuses, and all that the country will need after a couple of generations, are emergency rooms with crack trauma units to patch up the injured. Cancer will disappear. Obesity is the main cause of the dilemma America finds herself in. Diabetes will vanish in those with no genetic predisposition. Stress-related heart problems will fall like a 767 with complete engine failure.

Health care does not need to be reformed. The book of what is edible, nutritious, and real, needs to be re-written. That and the government and television need to be universally ignored.

Need I even mention people who should not be having children, who will grow up fat and ignorant because mankind in her present state is critically dysfunctional; or the undeniable fact that a country to the south of the border of the U.S. is in full-speed sublimation??? Get real, whiners. Use common sense and don't settle for solutions offered, so much Band-aid on an exit wound to the skull.

America would not even need the health care system she has were it not for the putrefaction of human beings by those who profit from collective ill-health. Learn to eat.

^Until healthy eating can mend a broken leg, we are going to need a health care system.

Covered that above.
Basic human survival skills; Healing broken legs, one splint at a time. The U.S. has a health care system, burdened with people programmed to eat crap. The issue is unhealthy, ignorant, citizens. Re-tool awareness rather than rely on a system against her own people by design or legislate to prop-up something fatally flawed.

If one female weighs more than 5 fit females due to her defective program, then the 5 healthy ones with a mind that functions well enough from their experience, training, and healthy habits, well, it wrongly burdens the healthy girls, in the present state of affairs.

Fat ain't where it's at, unless it's to produce milk for a calf.

^ I completely agree with your statement that we as a country need to eat healthier problem is it's not as easy as it sounds. First of all fast food is cheaper and for people who can barely afford to go to the grocery store its a bargain. Not to mention that we as a society the ones who do work have to work long hours and do not get a lot of time to cook when we get home. I do agree however that its not good for us at all just the other day I saw a lady who lives near me I think riding a rascal in front of her daughter driving down the road because she was to large I guess to fit in the car. Guess where she was going? Jack N the Box!!! It's really sad.

The other thing I have to say in this post is about the government healthcare system. Im actually for it I mean why not give it a try if it does not work why cant we just go back? My wife does not have insurance and I wont let her go to the doctor because we can't afford it. She only goes when she is really sick and I just get stuck with the bill. Luckily its not been to bad yet. Oh and she works an 40 hour fing job like the rest of us its not her fault that her job sucks and will not give her health care. On top of that I cant afford to put my son on my healthcare plan so I have to use the government healthcare for him think god they have not denied me yet because I would have to file bankruptcy and leave my house and god knows and god knows what else? Maybe not feed him would be ok?

Heres what I know about our current system. I only know this through here say Im not very good at looking up facts so anyone who wants to look this up can. Ill try to explain it the best I can because I don't even understand it completely.

My boss is the one who told me this him and his wife both worked for the healthcare industry for years his wife still does. The reason supposedly that healthcare is so expensive in the first place is because of insurance companies. I was told that hospitals want your insurance company to cover there hospital because of course they want you to come there because there a business. Basically insurance companies will make them give them a discount for doing business with them. The hospitals cannot afford a discount so they mark up what ever they can to pay for them. The insurance companies know this so they mark up your premiums and deny certain people. In fact there are people who do nothing all day but look for reasons to deny you your benefits, they get bonuses for it. Without knowing all the details well Ill stop there but its suppose to be some large game between the insurance and hospital trying to get paid as much as they can. Where it boils down to is say an x-ray costs the hospital 100 dollars to make. They have to give it to the insurance company for say 50% off. So instead of charging them 50 dollars they charge them for a 200 dollars so they can make a profit. You or your company is already paying the insurance company 30-40 dollars a month or more but they make you pay 30 dollars for the x-ray. Someone without insurance has to pay 150 dollars not because it cost that much but because they cannot charge you less then someone who has insurance. Ok lol I know my math and details are sketchy don't ream me for it. Please?? Instead find out the real numbers I'm sure its worse than that I was just trying to come up with an example.

And if Im wrong Im wrong much worse things to worry about than that.

It is easy, it's simply not a quick fix. Make fast food as expensive as it is in Japan for starters. A two-piece Kentucky Fried Heart valve with Coca-Colonoscopy and french-fried artery is about $40 U.S. You don't see the Japanese eating that scat as staple.

Eliminate wage slavery and the dollar, for that matter. Your arguments lie fallow. Beans and rice are still dirt cheap. Grow spinach. Leave the city. Isn't one's health more important than a 401K and a cable bill?

Insurance is for idiots who are specialized, without basic survival skills, and educated improperly concerning the world they inhabit. Learn some new rules for living; start by plugging back into instinct.

As far as medical procedures and the cost of the same?-Kill your nearest congressman or representative, and use their blood for fertilizer for your food crops, and eat sprouted seed till the harvest comes.

Get real folks-the power has always been in our hands to make change. America simply gives it to tainted robots to do as they see fit.

Change won't come without a realistic battle for what is right from a common-sense approach. To hell with politics. Join the ranks of beings who use reason or instinct rather than illusory constructs designed to enslave.

Government can't breastfeed an infant, but it can suggest a formula manufactured by Enfamil, or give you a free abortion.

You are not wrong user above, there are many things worse than the illusion the people of the world consider to be a "natural" progression of societies. The world is a simple place without the abuse of the few over the many.

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