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Don't vote for that Canadian twat. I'm sure you can figure out who i'm talking about.

I'd shut up or it might cost you 5 grand.

That's why i didn't name names

I would rather have emotional intelligence than say calculating coldness of other politicians.

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I'd just like to point out that Labatt was bought out by Budweiser 10-15 years ago, so the fact it tastes like piss NOW is 100% 'Murica's fault...

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Regarding the niqab, the rule should be pretty simple:

are you allowed take the citizenship oath while your face is covered (i.e. with a mask or a motorcycle helmet)?

If so, then there's no reason you shouldn't be allowed wear a niqab.

If not, then I don't give a shit what your imaginary friend tells you to wear; if you want to be a citizen of a country you must abide by its laws.

I really mean that. I have no problem with her wearing a niqab, provided it's not some special exemption for religious reasons.

Actually, that is a valid description

Voter Card:
[ ]Canadian Twat
[ ]Stupid Party Douche
[ ]Bueller? Bueller? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?
[ ]What, she's running again? Didn't she lose... no? She won? I doubt anyone else in her party will get in, just like last time, but good on her! When she wins her seat, we'll all have to go fer a rip to celebrate.

By the way, Trudeau has a majority government (over 50% of the seats),

Really shitty, to be quite honest. Minority governments get more done that are closer to what Canadians want. Majority Canadian governments are like one of y'alls parties having a President AND a Congress majority. Shit happens that truly stinks.

I get that niqabs are mostly just an implementation of aeons of patriarchy but they're still heavily entrenched in their culture. It's not just that they want to wear a niqab like some costume for some celebratory religious purpose during their citizenship ceremony, like they're putting on a motorcycle helmet just for the shit of it, but they wear a niqab _everywhere_ they go. They keep their bodies covered everywhere they go in public, for all of their lives, forever. Their niqab _is_ who they are. Their niqab _is_ a fundamental part of the citizenship they are declaring.

And as much as we might rail against it as being dehumanizing of a person to basically have their identity stripped in public, it's actually what the women want. And it's actually not up to us to make that decision for that culture. (I think in time things might change, especially if that culture is allowed to live side-by-side with ours.)

I think if it was some new-age religion, like someone is claiming to be 'jedi' and saying they're not allowed to show their face anywhere in public, well, if they actually lived that reality maybe they'd be allowed but I doubt it. But here we're talking about a fellow civilization with an equally storied history that has existed for many millennia alongside ours. And that can't just be thrown away because we think it should be.

Nahh... we surely wanted a minority government but Trudeau getting a majority isn't horrible. It means they have a chance to fix a lot of what the Conservatives have done to this country without having to worry as much about interference from the Conservatives.

Mainly, for the people who voted strategically for ABC (anyone but Conservative) like myself, it means the Liberals get a good chance at electoral reform without the Conservatives interfering. Anything is better than that 'Canadian twat' (Hear hear! and Harper, I'm referring to Harper here, even though @eric3579 left his implication open to interpretation... ) and four years of a Liberal majority will be better for Canada than anything Harper could have given us.

And I get that the women mostly want to wear it (questions of cultural pressure and/or indoctrination of children aside).

But I fundamentally disagree that anyone should get special treatment because of your religion. The law should be blind to religion.

If a christian, a jew or an atheist can wear a niqab, then a muslim woman should be able to too. If they can't, then they shouldn't get special treatment.

Is there a requirement to be able to facially identify someone at a citizenship ceremony? If not, no problem. If so, would the muslim woman agree to having another woman identify her? If so, again, no problem.

But she shouldn't expect people to change the law for her.

But he washed the cup afterwards. I think it's an acceptable receptacle.

The whole argument was stupid, because the oath is ceremonial. It doesn't mean anything. The amount of paper work that someone has to go through to get citizenship is astounding. They have to be indentified numerous times. Yes, they even have to show their face to match photo ID, but it's done in a special room with other women officials who can confirm the identity. The actual oath they take happens in private most of the time.

The standing in a room with everyone else is just for effect and has no practical sway on the process itself.

The two women who were trying to do it had already shown their faces and gone through the process. You could be wearing a Polkaroo costume at the oath ceremony, and it will still have the same effect.

I personally don't agree with it, but having actual religious freedom means you can't tell anyone what they can or can not wear.

The whole thing was stupid.

There's a major difference between accepting religious freedom for ceremonial activities, and for safety practices.

I can understand and agree with them wearing anything they'd like while being in a ceremony as long as it's not disrespectful. What is effectively a scarf covering your face, to me, isn't disrespectful.

However, the argument that eastern religions should be allowed to not wear helmets on motorcycles because they don't want to take off their turbans is ludicrous.

Actually Anheuser-Busch, the make of Budweiser was bought out by InBev, a Belgian/Brazilian beer company that owned the rights to Labatt. So it isn't 'Murica's fault.