Christian logic at its finest

"I don't understand how a brown cow can eat green grass and make white milk, but it won't stop me from drinking milk." Whaaaa?
JiggaJonsonsays...

Why is their logo a giant arm strangling a T-rex???

Well wait, that makes sense. If I were all powerful I'd want to create unintelligible huge predatory reptiles ans strangle the shit out of them too.




ahem *quality

kronosposeidonsays...

It's getting harder and harder for me to watch these nutjobs spew their religious idiocy. I watched this video earlier today, so between these two I can just feel my IQ draining.

Have you ever had an argument with these people about science and/or the Bible? I have, but it's been a while. I'm getting older, so I've got to be more protective of my brain cells these days.

Sagemindsays...

Did he say:
God's way and Satan's way...,
The good way and the bad way...,
The black way and the white way...?

What's that supposed to mean???


Edit..., Oh, ok, wait a minute..., I see now that he is certifiable, so never mind...
"Coo coo - Coo coo"

SDGundamXsays...

For the most part he seems harmless. He's talking to kids, after all--he is being silly in order to keep their attention. A definite wtf for equating suicide with cowardice and thinking that Jurassic Park is somehow anti-Biblical, though. And epic Constitutional fail for saying that America is supposed to be a "Christian nation."

Where is he now? Still "spreading the fire" of revival.

Mi1lersays...

they lost me at there is a black way and a white way, where within the context of his parellelism black is bad and white is good, now that this happened int he first 60sec is not a great sign.

Arkaiumsays...

Teachers, good teachers, emit a certain energy/aura, in my opinion. Snake oil salesmen/frauds/wanna-be celebrities, on the other hand, emit something entirely different. I don't want to generalize, but I really do believe you can sense someone's motivations behind their behaviors/actions.

And this guy, to me, seems like a narcissist who knowingly spouts rubbish because he likes being miced, being in front of the camera, and having a captive audience. A real teacher doesn't need a set and lights and a camera and an audience.

So, in summation: he's a manwhore.

Sketchsays...

Damnit! I looked up Steve Munds to see what his story was. Drug abuse, extra-marital gay affair, whatever! But from my meager research, it looks like the guy is clean. These things are always so much more fun when they turn out to be corrupt pederasts.

acidSpinesays...

>> ^Mi1ler:

they lost me at there is a black way and a white way, where within the context of his parellelism black is bad and white is good, now that this happened int he first 60sec is not a great sign.


Actually he gesticulated with his left hand for "god's way", "the good way" and the "black way". He likes to use his right hand to gesticulate for satan

Retroboysays...

>> ^mattsy:
So hip. So relevant. Who do I make this check out to?

Me.


Sorry, the official announcement that I am this man's financial attorney has been delayed for technical reasons. Expect it shortly after I cash your received cheque.

And thank you for your faith.

Lawdeedawsays...

>> ^kronosposeidon:
It's getting harder and harder for me to watch these nutjobs spew their religious idiocy. I watched this video earlier today, so between these two I can just feel my IQ draining.
Have you ever had an argument with these people about science and/or the Bible? I have, but it's been a while. I'm getting older, so I've got to be more protective of my brain cells these days.


Actually, I (An atheist,) just had an "argument" last night during a few drinks with a Christian (Although you said nutjobs, you did not quite define what nutjobs completely entails. Only the guy in the video? Or perhaps most Christains?) It was fantastic! He and I basically agreed on everything---from the bible being written by man and the bible always being wrong in some way or another, to his complete illogical faith. I pointed out that EVERYONE has illogical faith though---I mean why would I insult him for something EVERYONE DOES? Faith in your spouse? He / She will let you down. Faith in medicine? Still going to die (Albeit a bit older.) Faith in that condom? Ouch, child support! Cancer patient with faith? Going to take you longer and cause you more pain---enjoy your brutal, faithful death!

People who I cannot stand to argue with are f-ing smartass atheists who blame religion for EVERY ill or stupidity that befalls mankind. Those people are just D-U-M, dumb! I don't mind when ideological atheists call out religion in certain instances. For example, the Pope’s insistence on telling Africans not to use condoms. What a psycho! However, not every bad thing is bred from religion. For instance, this guy in the video is an idiot speaking to children. However, he would be an idiot with or without religion. The only difference is he would find some other way to brainwash and control children... Our woes would still be around with or without religion---obviously stupidity will be around so long as humans have the DNA they do.

bigbikemansays...

I'll agree with you on most points Lawdeedaw, except for putting all belief/faith on the same level. Unfortunately our language doesn't have two (or more) different words for the difference of belief between believing the tooth fairy is real, and that our spouse will not cheat on us.

We may be wrong (or right) about both the above beliefs, but obviously one is demonstrably more sane than the other (ie there certainly exist people in this world who don't cheat, and one can "believe" there is a high probability that their spouse is one of them, based on what they know about them, how they act etc).

Sericsays...

This man seems to have problems understanding how things can change colour. So from this we can deduce that food rotting, flowers growing, rainbows, paint, things getting wet, fire, lightbulbs, the sky and traffic lights completely confound him. What a difficult life he must lead.

[statement built by Rockrageous Logic TM]

Chinspinigcrasays...

By his logic it appears that milk being white is a greater mystery than all that is or would be god. If I was god (begin Christian logic logarithm) I might want to make sure this man understood how much he didn't understand me.

AnimalsForCrackerssays...

"Faith in your spouse? He / She will let you down. Faith in medicine? Still going to die (Albeit a bit older.) Faith in that condom? Ouch, child support! Cancer patient with faith? Going to take you longer and cause you more pain---enjoy your brutal, faithful death!"

WHOOOOOOOOOOOSH! These arguments aren't new or clever, I'm afraid. False equivalence much? There is usually a preponderance of evidence to base your conclusions on in every one of your examples, unlike god belief. Hedge your bets accordingly.

You sound more like an apologetic faitheist than an atheist from where I'm standing.

Lawdeedawsays...

>> ^bigbikeman:
I'll agree with you on most points Lawdeedaw, except for putting all belief/faith on the same level. Unfortunately our language doesn't have two (or more) different words for the difference of belief between believing the tooth fairy is real, and that our spouse will not cheat on us.
We may be wrong (or right) about both the above beliefs, but obviously one is demonstrably more sane than the other (ie there certainly exist people in this world who don't cheat, and one can "believe" there is a high probability that their spouse is one of them, based on what they know about them, how they act etc).


Oh, I have no doubt that there are diffent levels of faith and agree that some are insane and some are not. It all depends on perspective, though, and that is a sticky, tricky mess.

The problem with the toothfairy is this---we find out that it is mom or dad (My mother was over religious and never taught anything that was "mystical.") Faith, to be true faith, must always have a itty, bitty, tiny curb of possibility---no matter how small it may be. It cannot be disproven nor proven. Religion took hold of a concept provable only in death, and; therefore, is illogical yet, umm... faithable?

Thank you for allowing me to expand upon this idea and for being respectful too.

Lawdeedawsays...

>> ^AnimalsForCrackers:
"Faith in your spouse? He / She will let you down. Faith in medicine? Still going to die (Albeit a bit older.) Faith in that condom? Ouch, child support! Cancer patient with faith? Going to take you longer and cause you more pain---enjoy your brutal, faithful death!"
WHOOOOOOOOOOOSH! These arguments aren't new or clever, I'm afraid. False equivalence much? There is usually a preponderance of evidence to base your conclusions on in every one of your examples, unlike god belief. Hedge your bets accordingly.
You sound more like an apologetic faitheist than an atheist from where I'm standing.


I have no doubt that god exists---but not litterally. He is a concept that is born of NATURAL human design. He is no more real to me than your ability to allow someone to take a center and respecting side in an argument.

I am simply sick of the high-and-mighty and sometimes stupid beliefs of some of my brethern. Seriously, don't make me look like a ass-hat simply because of your nearly faith-induced lack of beliefs. That's all I ask! (I am speaking in general and not to you.)

My ideas are not new but they are correct. No matter how many times you say "WHOOOOSH" or "false equivalence" that does not change anything. You could argue about the level of faith and such, that is fine. We probably would agree on that issue (That some faiths are harder to reckon as sane than others.) You say a preponderance of evidence in all my examples? Seriously? You must not be dying of cancer yourself (I am not,) because the preponderance is against the patient. If you were in my Army unit, the preponderance of evidence would be against you---your wife would probably cheat. Preponderance of evidence is not needed in faith!

In fact, my mother always let me down yet there I stood, a boy with faith... Knowing what the next lie would be, knowing she would be late to pick me up again, knowing she would attempt to shove religion down my throat at the cost of my own sanity... There I stood, faithful, until she disproved my faith and I no longer needed it. Now I am logical to a tee, and that is not necessarily a good thing.

But instead of a well thought out argument, you judge me and prove my point. Sorry all, I don't believe God exists as more than a concept. Sorry too, I don't believe religion is to blame for all mankind's woes. Thanks, goodnight.

Hive13says...

I used to be afraid of communists. Then I was afraid of terrorists. I was afraid of my ex-wife for a while. But none of those people scared me more that the religious nutjobs in America. I am terrified for what is going to happen to the generation of kids raised on filth, lies, deceit, ignorance and fear like this.

Most religion is great for the people that believe it, but religion like this should be outlawed.

Also, AMERICA IS NOT A CHRISTIAN FUCKING NATION!

Lawdeedawsays...

>> ^AnimalsForCrackers:
Still missing the point, I see. Refuting arguments that weren't even made. You're funny.


I made the arguments at the start. You refuted my logic. So yes, I refute your refute.

But the point is this---your comment added 0 calories to the discussion. It did not devle into responsibility or outcomes if religion were non-exsistent... But then, you have no clue what would happen... Because the past indicates nothing for you.

AnimalsForCrackerssays...

Where did I or anyone else in this post imply that religion was responsible for all mankind's woes? You're certifiable, dude. Logical to a tee, HAH! Someone thinks highly of themselves while simultaneously revealing the opposite at every chance.

You want to refute my argument? Show how what you said wasn't a blatant false equivalence which was basically all I claimed. That would be a refutation. Not all this other bizarre off-topic nonsense that just muddles whatever point you were attempting to make. Keep shifting them goalposts.

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