Guess they were not in a "Free Speech Zone"
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WTF tag completely deserved, is this a training exercise? Real military? Secret police in action? The guy holding the camera would have been next to be put into the car...

Who knows.
They might have been pulling their own operative out and didn't want to break his cover.
They might not have been real military / national guard.
The Youtube consensus, for what it's worth (usually not much), is that it was staged by the protesters themselves. People are finding the camo, boots, service patches, weapons, vehicles, and license plate all difficult to believe.

nothing to see here...move along

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Why were those guys wearing what looked like army surplus store uniforms? They were all different and they weren't wearing hats... something is fishy. Other than that, are we going to get funny interviews from these kids ala the Tea Party March on DC? I think we'd get similarly stupid commentary from the people protesting.

Complete utter bullshit. Was a poor attempt at even faking it. The driver was wearing cowboy boots, ffs.

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/9nxw2/armored_police_seize_university_of_pittsburgh/

^ documentation of some legitimate injustices done by police in Pittsburgh

I agree this is fishy, too brief, and taken out of context..

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Fake.

Period.

So, this one is fake.
Everything is alright. Everything is alright.
Your government is in control. Go back to bed, America.

He was a Russian spy!!!!!!!!!

Glen Beck told me I should take a loaded AR-15 when I go to protest.
Real Americans who love their country would happily "water the tree of liberty" over less.

Oh, and the armed riot cops providing cover at the end suggests pretty strongly that this is is not fake.

IDK, could be real only because if the guy being snatched is a soldier, which the haircut would suggest, he could be in violation of some UCMJ rule. In which case it seems reasonable that the MPs would snatch him so they could throw him in the brig. I don't think they would have any legal requirement to stand in the street to identify themselves and read him miranda rights.

So, maybe fake, maybe not.

>> ^Payback:
Complete utter bullshit. Was a poor attempt at even faking it. The driver was wearing cowboy boots, ffs.


I think he's wearing tan waffle stompers. Look closer. But yeah, staged.

The outfit the perp is wearing makes it look like a viral for the new Tron movie.

yup , if they aren't real, howd they snatch someone and get past the cops 15 feet away. look at .22-.25 three cops in view and one guy trying to walk away from em.

>> ^Duckman33:
>> ^Payback:
Complete utter bullshit. Was a poor attempt at even faking it. The driver was wearing cowboy boots, ffs.

I think he's wearing tan waffle stompers. Look closer. But yeah, staged.


I agree. They weren't robotic enough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akwjAjcQnqM#t=40s

>> ^Payback:
Complete utter bullshit. Was a poor attempt at even faking it. The driver was wearing cowboy boots, ffs.


You are an idiot. The driver is not wearing cowboy boots.

The car is clearly a govt car of some sort, notice the window vent thing is only for the back seat, and the stubby radio antenna on the trunk.

I guarantee this is real and your only criticism is "not wearing hats" and the different uniforms. It could be Pittsburgh cops who are also Natl Guard that had some special detail. It could also be "undercover" cops that decided national-guard-like might be more tolerated then a plain clothes cop.

It's not staged, you can see riot cops in the first part of the video snatching someone else, and how did the car drive through police like that and the video is crawling with cops and national guard looking people.

There is a riot cop at 0:24 & 0:25 overseeing the whole thing. One with a gas mask & pepper shotgun. Or is that "fake". Also one of the national guard guys has a sidearm.

Could be fake, to try and stir up viral attention for their agenda or whatever, but it could be real, I suppose. We don't really know what the guy did. Why is there a huge plume of smoke at the end? Maybe he was part of something that got someone hurt or otherwise stepped outside the bounds of "peaceful demonstration," and he was just somebody who needed to be cooled off. Obviously, if it's not fake, they're just keeping the peace. Take off your fucking tinfoil hats, people. God damn.

Also, image stabilization should be required by law in every device capable of recording video.

>> ^EndAll:
>> ^Duckman33:
>> ^Payback:
Complete utter bullshit. Was a poor attempt at even faking it. The driver was wearing cowboy boots, ffs.

I think he's wearing tan waffle stompers. Look closer. But yeah, staged.

I agree. They weren't robotic enough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akwjAjcQnqM#t=40s


Holy freaking crap.

Here is a longer video with a lot more police encounters.
This particular video is included in it, at 1:52.

http://www.videosift.com/video/G20-Pittsburgh-Protests-Batons-Tear-Gas-and-Rubber-Bullets

Doesn't seem to be a fake.
http://rawstory.com/2009/09/video-appears-to-show-us-troops-kidnapping-protester/

Officials with G20 security released the following statement to Raw Story and other media outlets:

“Military members supporting the G20 Summit work with local law enforcement authorities but do not have the authority to make arrests. The individuals involved in the 9/24/09 arrest which has appeared online are law enforcement officers from a multi-agency tactical response team assigned to the security operations for the G20. It is not unusual for tactical team members to wear camouflaged fatigues. The type of fatigues the officers wear designates their unit affiliation.

Prior to the arrest, the officers observed this subject vandalizing a local business. Due to the hostile nature of the crowd, officer safety and the safety of the person under arrest, the subject was immediately removed from the area.”

>> ^direpickle:
>> ^EndAll:
>> ^Duckman33:
>> ^Payback:
Complete utter bullshit. Was a poor attempt at even faking it. The driver was wearing cowboy boots, ffs.

I think he's wearing tan waffle stompers. Look closer. But yeah, staged.

I agree. They weren't robotic enough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akwjAjcQnqM#t=40s

Holy freaking crap.


Where's a protester with a a firehose when you need one?

Ok, I'm from Pittsburgh, and I can tell you that a vast majority of the cops were brought in from elsewhere, as well as a vast majority of the protestors & anarchists were not from Pittsburgh. Yes there were more cops than protestors. Perhaps it was an over-reaction, but it was based on the precedent of events in London and Seattle. Many of those brought in were national guard. I can't speculate on who wears what kind of camo/fatigues - most were dressed in dark gray & black riot gear. From the video (no where near downtown) I would guess that they targeted this particular individual, and just removed him out of the crowd to the police line that was 50 ft away. I couldn't see any plates or lights on the car - most undercover cop cars are easy to spot, so this might have been a civilian vehicle.

Personally I was disappointed that there were so many cops, yet the anarchists got away with breaking so many windows. (this was probably because most of the cops were in the downtown area, and most of damage was in other neighborhoods outside of downtown). What point are they trying to prove? "ooh, I'm 19 years old and being repressed by the evil government, so I'll get back at them by breaking windows of a local business!!" Unless your goal is to provide work for local window replacement companies, it's pointless.

But in the end there were several peaceful protests as well (much larger turnout than you see in these videos), and no major damage or injuries, so it's probably better to err on the side of caution.

The channel 11 news (nbc) interviewed the girl who was on video from the previous night getting arrested for throwing her bike at the riot cops. Now that was entertainment... What did she think was going to happen?

Also, I disliked all the reporters comments about how downtown turned into a ghost town for 2 days - well that's what happens when the secret service quarantines a 16 block area and nearly every road in and out of downtown. All the businesses closed because it's too much hassle for employees and customers to even get there.

Could be an undercover guy, happened in Quebec, when they had cops there dressed up like protesters to start a fight. When their cover got blown they "got arrested." and then dragged away.

Police state.

>> ^blankfist:
Police state.

Not even. You want to vandalize property you pay for it. You want to break the law, you pay for it. You want to peacefully protest, you go and have your right fine damn time doing it. He'll have his day in court, he'll have his right to defend himself, I'm making no accusations either. Let me make that clear, what I am saying however is this: If you're part of a mob that thinks that being "part of the crowd" will make you immune from getting hauled off to jail, not a chance.

Otherwise, I'll be more than happy to support officers doing their duty. Here's a unique concept, you can have a peaceful protest and still get your point across. Now what happens here? Oh...G20 we'll just go apeshit because we can. No sorry, see...in civilized countries we normally don't allow that do we? They don't allow it in the US, they don't allow it in Canada, they don't allow it anywhere.

If it was a police state, he wouldn't exist anymore. And neither would you.

Alot of you seem to be writing this off so quickly. It's definitely not a protester prank. The car drives right through two cops that would've opened fire on it if they didn't know what was going on.

^ I agree, looks like exactly what happened in Quebec.

>> ^Bruti79:
Could be an undercover guy, happened in Quebec, when they had cops there dressed up like protesters to start a fight. When their cover got blown they "got arrested." and then dragged away.


That was deemed unconstitutional and inciting a riot under the criminal code. AKA Bringing the Administration of Justice into disrepute(BAJD). As much as Quebec tries to push the boundaries of law sometimes, even they can't supersede the highest courts in the land unless they leave Canada.

>> ^Mashiki:
>> ^blankfist:
Police state.

Not even. You want to vandalize property you pay for it. You want to break the law, you pay for it. You want to peacefully protest, you go and have your right fine damn time doing it. He'll have his day in court, he'll have his right to defend himself, I'm making no accusations either. Let me make that clear, what I am saying however is this: If you're part of a mob that thinks that being "part of the crowd" will make you immune from getting hauled off to jail, not a chance.
Otherwise, I'll be more than happy to support officers doing their duty. Here's a unique concept, you can have a peaceful protest and still get your point across. Now what happens here? Oh...G20 we'll just go apeshit because we can. No sorry, see...in civilized countries we normally don't allow that do we? They don't allow it in the US, they don't allow it in Canada, they don't allow it anywhere.
If it was a police state, he wouldn't exist anymore. And neither would you.


"Neither would you"? That doesn't make any sense.

How do you know due process was followed? I'm all for people bearing the consequences of breaking the law, but how do you know due process was followed?

In the United States, we have a law that says that the president can declare anyone, even a US citizen, an "enemy combatant", and that person can be put in a hole indefinitely, without redress. How do we know this guy wasn't classified as a terrorist and put in a hole?

>> ^Mashiki:


I didn't read anywhere that this guy vandalized anything. Did he? Either way, I don't care if the guy broke the law or not, no one should be bumrushed by a group of militarized police and shoved into a car then driven away like that. If you don't see that as a gross overreaction and cause for concern, then I suppose shooting them in the street will be par for the course in your Patriot Act world in a couple more years.

How is smashing windows, beating cops and throwing rocks at people legal?

- Damned police, always protecting those pesky democratically elected leaders, when we, the mask wearing mob, should be in charge...

>> ^blankfist:
>> ^Mashiki:


I didn't read anywhere that this guy vandalized anything. Did he? Either way, I don't care if the guy broke the law or not, no one should be bumrushed by a group of militarized police and shoved into a car then driven away like that. If you don't see that as a gross overreaction and cause for concern, then I suppose shooting them in the street will be par for the course in your Patriot Act world in a couple more years.

Yeah he did. You can feel free to dig through the g20 news reports they're buried in the muddle. You much like most other "western" nations have this thing called "detention short of arrest" aka "questioning, without arrest based upon actus reus." To boil it down simply.

So no I don't see that as a gross overreaction, you know what a gross overreaction would have been? Beating the piss out of everyone in the area, for being in the area. How about this one, instead of getting one trouble maker in a crowd, we just grab all of them and lawfully detain them. Nah you like most people don't understand the law either, and have a poor fundamental grasp of it as well.


>> ^longde
"Neither would you"? That doesn't make any sense.
How do you know due process was followed? I'm all for people bearing the consequences of breaking the law, but how do you know due process was followed?
In the United States, we have a law that says that the president can declare anyone, even a US citizen, an "enemy combatant", and that person can be put in a hole indefinitely, without redress. How do we know this guy wasn't classified as a terrorist and put in a hole?

What don't you understand? Blankfist made a hyperbole of a statement. Missed that one as well, here's the point. If it was a police state, the protester would have disappeared forever, or been shot in the street. Blankfist would now no longer exist, for a dissenting point of view. You, would no longer exist, or would no longer exist in a very short period of time, for having a dissenting point of view. Then those in this thread would also slowly disappear and every part of their existence would be wiped out, as they're branded as traitors by the government for having a dissenting view.

Would you like me to tell you how I know due process was followed? Read above to my other post. Then you can follow through the other steps. I realize you might simply watch "cops" and think that's how it all goes down, hard and fast. But no, not really it doesn't. Evacuating a person from the scene is still legal as long as they're given their rights, in the time of a criminal act as long as they're told what charges are give against them.

Guess what? Canada can declare people enemies of the state(or similar) and we've been able to do that since the 1940's with the war measures act. Well whatever the hell they call it now(we really like renaming stuff), actually they have a much more extended regime of power under the anti-terrorism act. I believe it's been used twice, might have been 3 times. But there are other sections of the law under the Criminal Code that we used in the Cold war that were used much more often to protect our spies, you know the ones who were doing your dirty work. But what the hell, and please. Put in a hole? Nah. You don't put people into holes to make them go away. That's what despots do. Dictators kill people privately for their enemies, to instill fear and to keep them in line.

And in a police state, they go on display for the public in major city centers. That is providing that the 3:1 ratio of civilian spies simply don't help them go poof. You do know what the STASI did right?

I'd say I'm surprised at the amount of hyperbole in this thread, but I'm not.

*dark - here's your overreaction. http://www.videosift.com/video/More-G20-Abuses

What the heck?

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The Protestors really lose their message when they smash the window and loot The Gap.

That's how you deal with hippies.