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transmorphersays...*promote
siftbotsays...Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Saturday, March 25th, 2017 11:39pm PDT - promote requested by original submitter transmorpher.
newtboysays...Sorry, this kind of thing upsets me more than makes me happy the pup is better now, because I had to see it terrified of being touched first.
It reminds me of the aspca commercials with abused animals, trying to touch your heart and get your donation, but that's abusive of the very people they are soliciting, animal lovers.
My wife blocked her sister on Facebook because she constantly posted similar videos and pictures, bumming my wife out to near tears daily.
I can't blame the poster, he labeled it well, but I still wasn't prepared for the screaming terror.
I need to go watch some more playing baby pygmy hippo now.
Edit: I must not have read the description when I said I can't blame the poster, because now that I see the message was his normal "if you eat meat you abuse animals" accusatory tripe, I totally blame him.
ulysses1904says...I agree, these videos tear me up (both definitions of "tear"). I'm not bothered by watching videos of some moped rider in Bangkok get wiped out at an intersection but these videos have an effect on me. I can't watch those videos of a happy dog being adopted from a shelter because all I can hear is the dogs barking in the background that are still in cages. We have 4 rescue dogs in the house and I wish I had the resources to have more. Upvoted anyway.
Sorry, this kind of thing upsets me more than makes me happy the pup is better now, because I had to see it terrified of being touched first.
It reminds me of the aspca commercials with abused animals, trying to touch your heart and get your donation, but that's abusive of the very people they are soliciting, animal lovers.
My wife blocked her sister on Facebook because she constantly posted similar videos and pictures, bumming my wife out to near tears daily.
I can't blame the poster, he labeled it well, but I still wasn't prepared for the screaming terror.
I need to go watch some more playing baby pygmy hippo now.
JiggaJonsonsays...Dogs = good
Trying to make me eat hummus instead of butter? = bad?
Idk, I don't think the two are as related as you imply. Either way, animals kill each other in nature all the time. You think if I didn't throw a lobster into a pot of water it'd die of old age? He'd probably get ripped apart slowly by a sea turtle.
^see how that doesn't sound like a conversation about abusing dogs anymore?
Post script: for the record, I believe the most humane way to kill a lobster is by driving a knife through the head quickly, NOT throwing it into the pot of water alive. I'm not for animals suffering, but I like eating meat and butter. The artery clogging is the animals paying me back. So it's all even.
newtboysays...If humans didn't eat and use animals, we would eradicate them as competitors for resources and hazards to our safety. That is the way of man, always has been.
No attempt to instill guilt will change that, it's more likely to spur it on out of spite for those dispensing the guilt.
antsays...The beginning audio.
I would take one, but I can't even care for myself.
transmorphersays...I'm trying to point out(and failing obviously lol): If we feel so bad for this poor dog, why do we turn a blind eye to farm animals that are mistreated and killed? They all feel pain and have emotional responses just the same.
We all like eating meat and butter, but is that worth the animals suffering and dying for it? (especially when there are some great alternatives. Nut butters, coconut butters, cashew spreads you name it, margarine at worst case) That's a decision for you to make. :-)
If a dog beater told you that "animals kill each other in nature all the time" would you accept that answer? Would that stop you from feeling bad for the dog?
When someone at the Yulin dog festival says "it's my tradition" or "I like the taste" do you accept that?
Then why do we make the same statements for cows? (don't worry, I remember yelling "lions tho" at vegans, so I'm not pointing fingers)
I just want to raise awareness about the horrors of animal agriculture and it's knock-on effects to the planet. And that we have a choice, and the power to change the world. We don't need to wait for governments or laws, we can make this change now, ourselves and there are no down sides, only wins.
It's just a matter of changing a few ingredients
https://www.forksoverknives.com/recipes/?recipe_type=wraps-and-burgers
Dogs = good
Trying to make me eat hummus instead of butter? = bad?
Idk, I don't think the two are as related as you imply. Either way, animals kill each other in nature all the time. You think if I didn't throw a lobster into a pot of water it'd die of old age? He'd probably get ripped apart slowly by a sea turtle.
^see how that doesn't sound like a conversation about abusing dogs anymore?
Post script: for the record, I believe the most humane way to kill a lobster is by driving a knife through the head quickly, NOT throwing it into the pot of water alive. I'm not for animals suffering, but I like eating meat and butter. The artery clogging is the animals paying me back. So it's all even.
transmorphersays...It's not about guilt, it's about extending the emotions you already feel for all of the other animals, to the last ~5 animals.
It's not about history. It's about the future.
I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm trying to make you aware that you have the power to change the status quo.
(and no you don't have to wear tie dye, you don't even have to tell anyone lol, your shopping list is what makes the difference)
If humans didn't eat and use animals, we would eradicate them as competitors for resources and hazards to our safety. That is the way of man, always has been.
No attempt to instill guilt will change that, it's more likely to spur it on out of spite for those dispensing the guilt.
Digitalfiendsays...I'm not sure I could ever stop eating meat (primarily chicken), but I understand that there is serious mistreatment and mismanagement of farm animals. I think a greater adoption in North America of CAK (controlled atmosphere killing) via something like high concentrations of nitrogen gas would be a great improvement, especially if it could be extended to pigs and cows. The old stun bolt or electric immobilization (for poultry) and throat-cut method seems so barbaric and I find it hard to believe that it doesn't result in pain.
Zawashjokingly says...Yes, we must all go full vegan, for no farm animals have ever been treated well.
transmorphersays...Steak is tough one to replicate, you'll probably have to wait for the lab grown stuff. But just about everything else we've got you covered
If you like your chicken crumbed, these are great https://gardein.com/product-type/chickn/
(the un-crumbed ones I don't really like)
from Asian stores/take-outs 'roast duck' seitan is also very nice.
And in general sausages and burger patties most are pretty nice these days.
I'm not sure how things are on your end of the world, but where I live most supermarkets carry mock-meats which taste like cardboard so avoid like the plague! But if you go to a specialty store they should have the brands that actually taste good. Once you know the brands that you like then you can sometimes find them in a regular grocer as well.
But really at the end of day if you're eating the "starch solution" 6 days then eat real meat once a week, then you're still doing a lot more good than bad. Less is always better.
I'm not sure I could ever stop eating meat (primarily chicken), but I understand that there is serious mistreatment and mismanagement of farm animals. I think a greater adoption in North America of CAK (controlled atmosphere killing) via something like high concentrations of nitrogen gas would be a great improvement, especially if it could be extended to pigs and cows. The old stun bolt or electric immobilization (for poultry) and throat-cut method seems so barbaric and I find it hard to believe that it doesn't result in pain.
Hiddekelsays...Klaatu must be so confused...
Sagemindsays...This is extremely hard to watch....
And had nothing to do with the description.. WTF
Sagemindsays...Are you here to show us a video of the miss treatment of a dog and it's revival of trust?
Or are you just trying to preach Veganism like a religion.
Please don't - it will never win you votes or support. It just pisses people off.
This is coming from someone who is practically Vegan now and slowly switching my lifestyle but will NEVER claim to be vegetarian or vegan.
Steak is tough one to replicate, you'll probably have to wait for the lab grown stuff. But just about everything else we've got you covered
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yellowcsays...Word of advice, if you want to try to convince people of something, don't use guilt logic as your weapon. When you guilt some one their instinct is to go defensive, not to listen with open ears.
I'm trying to point out(and failing obviously lol): If we feel so bad for this poor dog, why do we turn a blind eye to farm animals that are mistreated and killed? They all feel pain and have emotional responses just the same.
We all like eating meat and butter, but is that worth the animals suffering and dying for it? (especially when there are some great alternatives. Nut butters, coconut butters, cashew spreads you name it, margarine at worst case) That's a decision for you to make. :-)
If a dog beater told you that "animals kill each other in nature all the time" would you accept that answer? Would that stop you from feeling bad for the dog?
When someone at the Yulin dog festival says "it's my tradition" or "I like the taste" do you accept that?
Then why do we make the same statements for cows? (don't worry, I remember yelling "lions tho" at vegans, so I'm not pointing fingers)
I just want to raise awareness about the horrors of animal agriculture and it's knock-on effects to the planet. And that we have a choice, and the power to change the world. We don't need to wait for governments or laws, we can make this change now, ourselves and there are no down sides, only wins.
It's just a matter of changing a few ingredients
https://www.forksoverknives.com/recipes/?recipe_type=wraps-and-burgers
entr0pysays...Agreed, no more tiger cheese or sloth milk for me!
transmorphersays...Like I said above, it's not about guilt, it's about making people aware that they have the power to change the world for the better.
Word of advice, if you want to try to convince people of something, don't use guilt logic as your weapon. When you guilt some one their instinct is to go defensive, not to listen with open ears.
yellowcsays...It's not about guilt but if you eat meat, you're making the world a worse place!
I hope you don't need me to point out the contradiction any further.
Like I said above, it's not about guilt, it's about making people aware that they have the power to change the world for the better.
transmorphersays...I don't agree that the two are mutually exclusive.
Are you here to show us a video of the miss treatment of a dog and it's revival of trust?
Or are you just trying to preach Veganism like a religion.
Please don't - it will never win you votes or support. It just pisses people off.
This is coming from someone who is practically Vegan now and slowly switching my lifestyle but will NEVER claim to be vegetarian or vegan.
transmorphersays...You're saying that. Not me. I'm just showing people there is a different way.
It's not about guilt but if you eat meat, you're making the world a worse place!
I hope you don't need me to point out the contradiction any further.
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